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inarireply
piefed.zip

This being a public interest group, they might not even take the bribe

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They're already due to run out of money mid 2027. And sizing up their user base only increases their expenditure. They have zero path to profitability.

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bambooreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Yeah, I don't see how anyone other than Hugging Face can have standing to bring a lawsuit over the breach. Is the unfair competition claim that OpenAI is allowed to hack Hugging Face with no repercussions but another company can not?

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Even shakier IMO

"LASST suffered harm from OpenAI’s unlawful and unfair business conduct because LASST has been required to divert resources from its normal activities to educate regulators, civil society, and the public about the facts, legal issues, and potential dangers of OpenAI’s conduct".

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anarchist.nexus

"Who bears legal responsibility when an agent blows past its guardrails and causes real-world harm?"

That is very easy to answer - the person being responsible for what is running on that hardware when it's personal hardware, and in corporate environments the manager who is responsible for deploying the agent and the engineers who didn't ensure this doesn't happen if they failed in their responsibilities by not monitoring the system (dependent on if the manager even allowed suffcient ressources for monitoring, if not, they should also not share the blame)

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lemmy.world

AI is a tool

Similarly you can't blame a hammer for causing harm, you blame the individual who holds it.

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Polyphilicreply
lemmy.ca

AI is closer to owning a pet.

If your dog escapes the back yard and kills a child, you dont blame the dog.

You blame the owner who created a poor containment and for giving the dog the right incentives that led to the death

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Treczoksreply
lemmy.world

Therefore, you blame the person wielding the hammer.

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Yup that's what I was getting at, but I like the pet analogy better that another commenter brought up.

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piefed.zip

If you crush someone's skull with a hammer, you are responsible, not the person who made the hammer. But what if you crush someone's skull with a hammer that was sold to you as a head massager?

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Smailereply
lemmy.ca

In this case open AI was the one wielding the hammer (the AI) though, idk what your argument even is.

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But how can you massage yourself without the gun hammer?

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Sort of. With something as simple as a hammer sure, but when the hammer is equipped with a 9mm pistol then it falls under different safety standards that deem the tool inherently unsafe. A physical tool would be recalled if somebody got hurt in an unintended way.

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The organization sued under California's Unfair Competition Law, arguing OpenAI's "unlawful and unfair business practices" diverted work and resources to responding to the Hugging Face incident.

This ain't going anywhere. Hugging Face already had a large chunk of OpenAi money to keep quiet about the incident. No doubt they've waived their rights for future litigation too. A bunch of public interest lawyers in the US isn't going to help. The government won't allow it.

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OpenAI hit with landmark lawsuit following Hugging Face hack | Spyke