KDE bans user calling out racism, antisemitism and misogyny but not the perpetrator.
During the AI policy discussion on https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187 someone called a KDE contributor out for their bigotry. KDE banned the person calling them out and removed all the comments.
https://archive.ph/6YccJ#note_1648724 (no other archive available)
https://invent.kde.org/sweetluna (blocked user)
I guess it's official. Fascism is allowed. Calling it out is not.
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damn kde is really attempting a lose-all-respect% speedrun WR huh
Such a fucking bummer too...I really like kde
It's surreal seeing the internet pivot 180-degrees to full blown harboring bigotry.
I noticed those comments were removed today. Cheers for finding the archive of them.
The turn KDE has taken is absolutely astonishing. I regret the donations I've made to them :(
Edit: they did ultimately ban the racist, though it's not a great look that the person exposing the racist was also banned.
@Kiriko oh fucking boy
Another one...
Welp, that is another nail in the coffin for KDE. I don't want to use a DE that protects fascist creeps; even more motivation to change to a WM and continue my learning journey so I can build my own WM that I can guarantee will be free from LLM assisted code.
@Kiriko user 'svin' is gone as well.
I'm told, but haven't seen receipts, that the other user in question was doing conduct violations outside of the thread in question. I'm still asking around.
I'm a KDE developer and I think SweetLuna's messages *in that post* was appropriate.
What the fuck, @kde? Two ways to do something and you found the exact wrongest way possible...
David sure called this one. O_o
Welp, both blocked now. For some reason both. And the entire work item removed... Update the post maybe?
Looks like they switched the entire proposal thread to private, it can no longer be viewed.
I'm not seeing where svin is linked to bee_fumo. Can someone point out where they admited those are their tweets?
Apart from the proof @[email protected] posted, bee_fumo was also live-posting the whole thread on twitter https://x.com/bee_fumo/status/2102032995695645121
bee_fumo and Svin share the same avatar, and Svin's response saying they know who in that thread like their X posts, and they later edited that post to this (which is still viewable/hasn't been removed):
"You must be a fan of mine trolling from X" is admission that they are the same account.
And further down responded with this:
Okay that makes sense. Did the kde forum mods give a reason for the ban?
Not that I'm aware of.
Let me guess.. there's no such thing as a semite?
A semite is 50% of a te
I need an itty bitty antisemite committee
Who exactly is this “svin” person? And how do we know that the X account in question belongs to svin?
also, how do we know that they meant to be bigoted when they typed those words in that order? Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? That’s what you sound like
I don't think there's any question that the words are bigoted.
But I see very little evidence that they belong to svin, nor that svin has any significant influence in the KDE project.
Clarification would be appreciated.
The guy admits that those tweets are his in the thread. The influence is not substantial to the problem here
I see.
Well, I suppose this is all moot anyway. With KDE now planning to start spying on users to train AI models https://windowsforum.com/news/kde-plasma-kadai-is-a-proposal-not-an-ai-desktop.444963/ it seems we all need to abandon ship regardless.
What will we use next?
Here are lists of projects that actively reject AI:
https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#desktop-environments
https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#window-managers
https://noai.starlightnet.work/list.html
He was live-posting the whole thread https://x.com/bee_fumo/status/2102032995695645121