This Democratic Nominee for Governor Refuses to Condemn Data Centers
Oh for FUCKS SAKE. Even after defeating a objectively bad progressive, this moderate dumbass cannot help but keep on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by ignoring the people who will vote him in.
https://newrepublic.com/post/214707/david-crowley-wisconsin-data-centers-positionOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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I REALLY REALLY hate Data Centers BUT the Media told me Hong was TOO WOKE so I GUESS I'll stop drinking Water!
-Wisconsin Voters!
This may be unpopular, but data centers are a modern necessity. HOWEVER, these mega centers for ai processing and mass surveillance MUST be stopped.
They can also be built to not require any water, or cause pollution (sound, environment, air quality).
I believe what we're seeing here is called "getting what you vote for". Nicely done, Wisconsin!
Controlled opposition
The most insane part about this is that, since hating AI data centers is bi-partisan for voters, the Republican candidate, Tom Tiffany, is promising to end data center subsidies.
https://tomtiffany.com/tiffany-vows-to-end-subsidies-for-data-centers-in-wisconsin/
It's like Trump successfully positioning himself as the peace candidate because Harris couldn't bring herself to condemn a genocide, and couldn't help herself from saying things like "I will ensure America has the most lethal fighting force in the world" at the DNC. Or like when Trump managed to position himself as the peace candidate because his opponent was the butcher of Libya who couldn't bring herself to condemn the illegal invasion of Iraq she voted for.
Almost like it was set up this way by both of them
Democrats are also not our friends.
They never have been
You want to lose an election in 2026? Because that's how you lose an election in 2026
They don't care, the oligarchy gets what they want regardless which of their pets wins the election
:-/
I love "objectively bad" on a subjective scale.
But I love "these Far-Leftist candidates who advocate for everything I agree with are totally unelectable, unlike the corporate empty-suite dweebs I despise" even more.
Why do you think Crowley (and the rest of his corporate media allies) campaigned on frivolous bullshit and made the election about Hong being Too Woke? Where do you think he got all his money to run attack ads?
Fucking morons.
I mean that;s fine, I'll just say she was dog shit at politics then and a empirically bad candidate that had no political sense that she couldn't win run a campaign on great ideas that others made work. I mean even in Florida, FLORIDA for fucks sake, her fellow DSA candidate won her primary and other progressives were running won.
Hong was just bad at everything, couldn't or wouldn't address her controversial post history. She was bad at her debates. She was so timid that she couldn't stand up for what she believed in. She was so bad that Sanders didn't endorse her.
And even with all of that, she still barely lost. People want the policies but not with someone that came off as incompetent as her and not every progressive candidate is a good one, she was just particularly dog ass shit.
Sure. She should have backed genocide in Gaza and data centers squatting on your front lawn. Then she'd have won against the guy who got back in the race because a bird told him to do it in a dream.
Not the people profiting off the status quo
Oh for fucks sake. You are such a unserious person with your bullshit strawman, perpetual victimhood.
Again, other progressives like El-Sayed, Angie Nixon, Miranda Lopez, N’Kiyla Jasmine Thomas have all ran with progressive politics, being against APIAC, being against the war in Gaza, being against the tech bros and they WON their elections just fine against their moderate opponents. You just can't admit that she was just too damn flawed and weak willed to be seen as serious. and lost because of that.
Me and you, we will never see eye to eye on things as you cannot see past your perceived victimhood just as bad as any MAGA extremist and can't have any introspection, it's always the fault of someone else.
Thank god non-internet progressives actually have sense in their heads to learn.
This seems like the go-to any time you get into any kind of policy dispute.
"Everyone I disagree with is MAGA"
I gotta wonder if you know any. They must have a lot of patience to listen to a guy like you heckling them constantly.
Seriously stupid. The one issue that no one is ambiguous on and he refuses to read the writing on the wall.
You know how moderates are, Blue lips no matter who when it comes to bribery, especially when it comes from deep pocketed tecno-fascists.
They chose him in the primary knowing he was an establishment puppet. This shouldn't be news to anyone
Ahh.. "nuance"..
Gj Wisconsin. Ya fekken blew it.
He shouldn't be able to campaign anywhere without hearing about how stupid this is. Make him regret doing a stupid thing.
Waiting for the VBNMW crowd to show up explaining how we are taking this out of context.
Nah, this is in context. The context being that this is still the better of the two options.
That isn't the point. The point is that this is an obviously and obnoxiously stupid position to take in the current environment.
Insert they are the same picture meme
They very clearly are not though. The "both sides are the same" rhetoric is pushed by Republicans for a reason, and that reason is that the obviously shittier of the two sides would really like people to think their shittiness is average.
Answering to the same masters is objectively the same.
Democrats refuse to acknowledge their side is complicit because they don't want to face the fact their team is on the same side as Republicans.
I take it you're a Republican, then?
The guy that said both shades of fascism are the same is a Republican?
Do liberals ever listen to themselves? They hear a critique of BlueMAGA and they instinctively assume it's coming from MAGA
Well, if you're okay assuming that I'm a liberal because I understand the concept of not letting perfection be the enemy of the good, why is it not okay to consider you a Republican when you're basically arguing that we should let them win?
David Crowley of Wisconsin.
A governor kicking the can down the road for local governments isn't the end of the world, and still an improvement.
He'd get more votes supporting a state wide ban. But anyone advocating not to vote D because they have the same policy on a single issue as the R candidate is just ignoring literally every other policy...
In the purple state of Wisconsin he would earn a lot of center votes if he took a hard stance against datacenters. Talking to people about the candidates here all they ever talk about is datacenters and Flock. Those two issues transcend the parties and would get you an easy win. Hong said some crazy shit on Twitter in the past and she almost won the primary because she was anti datacenter (I voted for her).
There has to be some balance between promising the voters what they think they want and actually doing what is a good idea.
The nuance should come after he's in office. This is nothing short of a gaffe. You can't win modern elections with nuance. How much will it take for Democrats to figure that out?