Nicotine vapes best chance to quit smoking, major review finds
They work better than patches, gum or pills, the most up-to-date evidence suggests.
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Someone needs to come up with a quit smoking vape service, where each refill cartridge comes with a little less nicotine, and then starts coming with progressively more disgusting flavors.
No shit, its what they were originally designed for. The problem is they are just as addictive, and bad for you. I. Used to vape, and it was wayyy harder to quit than quiting smoking.
So much money wasted on vape juice, box mods and pens. I could have used thay money for drugs and hookers instead!
Not to start an argument, but do you have any sources for where vaping is actively bad for you? Curious if I should be changing my habits despite not noticing any negative effects myself.
I haven't done any research in the last 3-4 years at least, but last time I checked the most reputable meta study I found was from Public Health England stating that vaping was about 90-95% safer than smoking cigarettes, and haven't been able to find anything to dispute that.
That said I am also from the era where vaping meant buying nicotine suspended in PG, adding candy flavorings to it, and then mixing in more PG/VG. Have heard the new vape salts and some other stuff they've done is at least far more addictive, and haven't seen any studies done on those.
And for the record I've been vaping since around 2013, currently mix my own juice (dropped down to 0 nic recently but till then was hovering around 3-5%), and my overall costs are somewhere in the veins of $100 a year total and consist of gallons of PG/VG mix (yay amazon), battery replacements, wire, cotton, and I'm still using some old flavoring I bought at least 5 years ago. Haven't had to change my mod in about 2 years, and if it does break I have an extra copy of it new in box.
The glycerol in vapes is converted to dihydroacetone with damages DNA.
An increased risk of periodontitis and caries.
But the biggest risk is none of the chemicals in vapes are known, tested, or regulated. By anyone.
These pro-vape studies often come out of England, where MDs don't make much money and many have side hustles with vape manufacturers as "consultants". It is trivial to buy a UK MD opinion.
This study is not actually a study at all, it is a review. It was published in Cochrane Database of Systemic Reviews. This outlet does not require conflict of interest statements from authors. This is unusual in 2026. As such, it is a very biased review of data that they determine is high or low confidence.
But in the work they reviewed, they listed the funding:
Caponnetto 2013 received funding from the Lega Italiana AntiFumo.
Caponnetto 2023* [184, 185, 186, 187] was funded by Philip Morris Product Société Anonyme.
Cravo 2016* [188, 189, 190, 191] was funded and supported by Fontem Ventures B.V. Imperial Brands plc (Imperial Tobacco plc) is the parent company of Fontem Ventures B.V., the manufacturer of the EC prototype used in their study.
Edmiston 2022* was funded by Altria Client Services LLC. Altria is the parent company of Philip Morris USA (producer of Marlboro cigarettes), John Middleton, Inc., U.S. Smokeless Tobacco Company, Inc., and Philip Morris Capital Corporation.
Kanobe 2022* was funded by RAI Services Company. The parent company is Reynolds American. Reynolds American manufacture and market a variety of tobacco products, including cigarettes (Newport, Camel, Pall Mall, Kent, Doral, Misty, Capri, and Natural American Spirit brands), EC (Vuse brand), and moist snuff (Grizzly and Kodiak brands).
Rose 2023* [192, 193, 194] was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA). However, the lead author declared research support from Foundation for a Smoke‐Free World (which has links to the tobacco industry), Philip Morris International, Altria, Embera Neuro Therapeutics, Inc., Otsuka Pharmaceutical, JUUL Labs, consulting with Revive Pharmaceuticals, and consulting and patent purchase agreements with Philip Morris International.
Russell 2021* was funded by the e‐cigarette/alternative nicotine products industry.
Xu 2023* was funded by JUUL Labs, Inc.*
So you can safely wipe your ass with this "research".
There is no safe way to huff chemicals.
Do appreciate the two links provided, definitely the most definitive info about vaping being bad that I've seen.
First study I will absolutely be watching to see what comes out of future studies (but not looking good for vaping there).
Second one I have been visting my dentist so not too worried.
And yeah, klnow about the danngers of unregulated chemicals, would absolutely love if they started regulating it better (was around for the original diactyl scare, as well as some early problems with nicotine suppliers not being accurate in their mg/ml counts). But haven't really seen anything that makes sense yet (most of the regulations I've seen just pushed people towards disposables and whatnot which seem farm less healthy from what I heard).
And in regards to the reason I was asking (and mentioned england) is actually from significantly older studies like https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/e-cigarettes-an-evidence-update. Haven't actually looked at anything recently (which is why I asked).
My main source on why its bad would be myself. I voted form 2012 to 2023. I was starting to develop a bad cough and was hard to breathe. One day I quit cold turkey and about a month after that (once the withdrawals died down) all those problems went away.
Also: https://newsroom.heart.org/news/growing-scientific-evidence-links-e-cigarette-chemicals-to-heart-health-risks
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/e-cigarettes/health-effects.html
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12628669/
It seems that the chemicals could have a high chance of causing heart problems. Who knows what kind of gunk i vaped back in the day. I shudder to even find out.
How the heck are you only spending 100 bucks a year? That was like 200 a month for me.
Because vaping is cold, people can draw in much more vapor than smoking. So a lot of the cardiac effects are also seen from people abusing nicotine.
I abused it heavily. Vaped all day. So could have been part of it lol.
Thanks very much, definitely looking throuigh those now (though I will disregard the first link, at least as far as I know the only studies that have shown formaldehyde or heavy metals have been from the scientists holding down the fire button nonstop for seconds on end and basically lighting the cotton on fire).
As for the costs, below are all the costs I can think of. Looks like I was a little off, closer to around $120 a year.
Wow, I can't believe you spend that little for juice. I never did the make your own stuff, always bought bottles at the store and liked high end tapes like Smok, so part of it was definitely on me. I was deep in the vape "lifestyle".
Also you do you, if your good and feel fine, I have no right to tell you to stop. Especially if your only spending less than 200 a year. If your happy, and healthy, go for it! Enjoy yourself!
lot of effort to maintain a chemical addiction.
absolutely at least to start. But I was coming off a pack a day of cigarettes habit that I picked up when I was 13 or 14, and on top of that I also quit drinking about the same time (partially because it was too difficult to drink and not smoke after years of combining the two).
That said once I got everything set up it's incredibly easy to maintain. I now just buy a couple gallons of base every few years, and maybe once a month spend around 20-30 minutes mixing 3 batches of ejuice (different flavors). Maybe changing cotton once a month (at most 5 minutes), and changing coils once a year or two).
No, it really isn't. It's extremely simple