Hmm... good concept for a community site, particularly the non-profit support, but the no politics rule is going to keep it from every becoming relevant and will eventually lead to censorship within the platform. For instance, will they allow posts about climate change? It's clearly a political issue, but much more of an environmental one, and something that is affecting us every day - does this mean it's a topic non-grata on Oddsrabbit?
I also don't trust the "no surveillance" pledge, regardless of the developer's intent. The legal framework that would keep that information private doesn't really exist in the US any more in a practical sense, and its disingenuous to imply they can protect it.
There are already posts about climate change. Politics is involved in everything but it doesn't mean the topics are political by nature and politics is the number one reason for censorship and too much politics is bad for people moral
Censorship is still censorship. Where's the line when a topic becomes too political?
If you're looking to improve people's morale, then what you're running is not a discussion forum, but a propaganda machine. Once you cross the line from the presentation of ideas to the manipulation of the reaction to those ideas, you've ceased to become a voice for the people, and you've just become another voice telling them how to feel and what to think.
Where's the line when a topic becomes too political?
When your political affiliation and ideology become the center of your opinion rather than trying to come close to truth
If you're looking to improve people's morale, then what you're running is not a discussion forum, but a propaganda machine
It is not a propaganda machine if everybody is hold in the same standard on the platform.
There are people who don't like politics and want a space olitical free. Why do you want every single platform to be political. You Wonce politics dominate it is hard to break from it. That's why lemmy has a problem with niche topics
When your political affiliation and ideology become the center of your opinion rather than trying to come close to truth
So that's your line of censorship, and it's subjective. "Trying to come close to the truth" is a subjective analysis of the content the user posts. If a user posts that Taiwan is Chinese, do you censor them? What if a user posts that Taiwan is not Chinese? Both are subjective truths depending on one's political stance. Regardless of what you decide, unless you let them both speak, you're making an editorial decision to support one side or the other.
If you don't let them speak at all, then you're removing the conversation to avoid damaging the morale of your users (your words in the previous post, not mine). This is propaganda by omission - pretending the discussion of the topic doesn't exist, and thus presenting the illusion that the problem doesn't exist.
But I get it (have run social media sites in the past) - you're looking for a certain level of quality conversation to appear, in the hopes that it generates the quality content needed to draw enough eyes to your project to ensure long-term visibility. A couple of trolls can kill that in the early stages of growth, and politics is a breeding ground for trolls.
But its also going to draw more of an audience than most other topics, and it will generate far more discussion. Like it or not, understanding the political forces that control your life is a matter of survival these days.
There are people who don’t like politics and want a space political free
So why not allow them to independently censor their feeds instead locking down the contributions of people who do like politics? The tech exists on both Reddit and Lemmy (and works pretty well). Besides, you're already taking a political stance by funding non-profits - unless they're shelters for homeless nazis, it's likely you're providing funding to a left-leaning cause. What happens when one of your non-profits runs afoul of the Trump administration? Will you allow them to post?
But hey, it's your space, it looks slick, and its a neat idea - I wish you luck. But it's not worth my time to create an account there - there are plenty of outlets where my content won't be censored by default if it strays into politics.
Anyway I feel better after discussing political stuffs to detoxicate here to visit oddsrabbit and see post about people hobbies music, photography, drawing etc
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Hmm... good concept for a community site, particularly the non-profit support, but the no politics rule is going to keep it from every becoming relevant and will eventually lead to censorship within the platform. For instance, will they allow posts about climate change? It's clearly a political issue, but much more of an environmental one, and something that is affecting us every day - does this mean it's a topic non-grata on Oddsrabbit?
I also don't trust the "no surveillance" pledge, regardless of the developer's intent. The legal framework that would keep that information private doesn't really exist in the US any more in a practical sense, and its disingenuous to imply they can protect it.
Source: their about page
There are already posts about climate change. Politics is involved in everything but it doesn't mean the topics are political by nature and politics is the number one reason for censorship and too much politics is bad for people moral
Censorship is still censorship. Where's the line when a topic becomes too political?
If you're looking to improve people's morale, then what you're running is not a discussion forum, but a propaganda machine. Once you cross the line from the presentation of ideas to the manipulation of the reaction to those ideas, you've ceased to become a voice for the people, and you've just become another voice telling them how to feel and what to think.
When your political affiliation and ideology become the center of your opinion rather than trying to come close to truth
It is not a propaganda machine if everybody is hold in the same standard on the platform.
There are people who don't like politics and want a space olitical free. Why do you want every single platform to be political. You Wonce politics dominate it is hard to break from it. That's why lemmy has a problem with niche topics
So that's your line of censorship, and it's subjective. "Trying to come close to the truth" is a subjective analysis of the content the user posts. If a user posts that Taiwan is Chinese, do you censor them? What if a user posts that Taiwan is not Chinese? Both are subjective truths depending on one's political stance. Regardless of what you decide, unless you let them both speak, you're making an editorial decision to support one side or the other.
If you don't let them speak at all, then you're removing the conversation to avoid damaging the morale of your users (your words in the previous post, not mine). This is propaganda by omission - pretending the discussion of the topic doesn't exist, and thus presenting the illusion that the problem doesn't exist.
But I get it (have run social media sites in the past) - you're looking for a certain level of quality conversation to appear, in the hopes that it generates the quality content needed to draw enough eyes to your project to ensure long-term visibility. A couple of trolls can kill that in the early stages of growth, and politics is a breeding ground for trolls.
But its also going to draw more of an audience than most other topics, and it will generate far more discussion. Like it or not, understanding the political forces that control your life is a matter of survival these days.
So why not allow them to independently censor their feeds instead locking down the contributions of people who do like politics? The tech exists on both Reddit and Lemmy (and works pretty well). Besides, you're already taking a political stance by funding non-profits - unless they're shelters for homeless nazis, it's likely you're providing funding to a left-leaning cause. What happens when one of your non-profits runs afoul of the Trump administration? Will you allow them to post?
But hey, it's your space, it looks slick, and its a neat idea - I wish you luck. But it's not worth my time to create an account there - there are plenty of outlets where my content won't be censored by default if it strays into politics.
Anyway I feel better after discussing political stuffs to detoxicate here to visit oddsrabbit and see post about people hobbies music, photography, drawing etc