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That magic rock is made of lesser magic rock, mostly from enemy' soil, the whole chain is fucking expensive and the used up magic rock is poisonous and curses you to painful death if you only get close.

Also, centralized power source is a strategic target. Better have the other magic rock on each dwelling, that makes a bit of power from sunlight.

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lemmy.world

There are many reasons nuclear did not catch on. One of them is that spent fissile material has a half life so long it remains deadly for around 5000-50000 years, and radioactive for up to 250,000. So aside from the extreme cost, political instability of governments controlling the highest supplies of nuclear materials, and meltdown risks of the design of last generation reactors (there are newer, safer designs that cannot physically melt down) you still have invisible fire burning for longer and for more lifetimes than any of us can even really fully conceive. Nuclear is cool, it's part of the solution, but without achievable commercial scale fusion reactors it's not exactly an easy sell.

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iocasereply
lemmy.zip

Fast reactors can "burn the periodic table" and make 300-500 year waste out of existing nuclear waste. Modern designs also tend to be walk away safe.

Also a major part of why old nuke plants were so unstable and unsafe is because their primary purpose was making nuclear material to nuke the soviets... safe power production was a side product... you would need to scroll down quite a ways in the design requirements to find safe power production... and the fact that the USD is basically backed by oil meant if they weren't so useful for making nukes (or for propaganda/political leverage against the soviets showing how futuristic and capable capitalism is during the cold war...) they would have never been built in the first place.

China is building massive amounts of nuclear reactors because they know how useful they are. Our leaders and decision makers in the west are morons...

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Ptsfreply
lemmy.world

I was entirely unaware of fast reactors. Very neat technology, and you make some good points.

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Yeah when the goal is safe clean nuclear power and weapons grade material isn't a design requirement your options are much better. LFTRs are my favorite type of fast reactor breeder since thorium is so incredibly abundant (its actually a waste product from rare earth production which is why China has the first LFTR pilot plant since 1960)

If they can figure out how to continuously purify the liquid core salt (nuclear kidney is what they call it) then you have a potential contender for all future human base load power until we can figure out fusion.

Also the high grade waste from these plants are miniscule since they're so good at converting large atoms into smaller ones. Continuous reprocessing also means you tap that stream off and can vitrify it inside layers of glass for long term storage constantly.

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Like idiot and moron or we just big mad on the "r word" which is already antiquated like the aforementioned.

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feddit.org

Nuclear never was economical. It is only profitable since the government pays for a large part of the cost and initial construction is the main cost and when you amortized that cost(in the books) you still have plenty of now profitable years left.

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majsterreply
lemmy.zip

Government usually builds infrastructure of all kinds. Its kinda the whole point.

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Usually the cheapest possible to serve a purpose instead of paying out of their arse to get a commodity product for more expensive.

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And don't forget decommissioning. That's another huge expense that ultimately the taxpayer gets saddled with. And there's still no solution for safe, long term storage. Civilian nuclear power was only ever a smoke screen for weapons programs.

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programming.dev

If anything goes wrong you cannot use the land in the area for thousands of years

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Gladaedreply
feddit.org

That's a bit of an overstatement. Radioactivity levels being elevated doesn't mean you cannot use the land. Just means you get more cancers.

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saimenreply
feddit.org

And who wants to live there knowing this?

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It's more, but not very much for the most part.. Unless you really fuck it up bad.

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