Fun with edu-fuckin-cation, am I doing it right? π
Fun with edu-fuckin-cation, am I doing it right? π
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@NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop The things you learn at UCL fuckin A!
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And guess what? xkcd has a comic about this too
https://xkcd.com/1290/
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@ygor @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop
for anyone curious, the linguistic term for this is "expletive infix"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive/_infixation?wprov=sfla1
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Fascinating
Is everyone including all of the @βs in every comment as a joke, or is this some sort of bot thing?
I guess it's Mastodon functioning a bit different from Lemmy even though they're federated.
Ah I get it. TIL, thanks!
Phil fuckin adelph fuckin ia
@Darkard @NickEast_IndieWriter oh damn, that's painful to look at. It's Phila-fuckin-delphy-fuckin-A.
Or Philly Fuckin' Philly if you want to sound halfway local, especially if you're at an Iggles game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_infixation
If you are curious about how insertions for emphasis work in detail. There are way more than just fuck, too.
@Gladaed @NickEast_IndieWriter Who the fuck put that bastardin fuckwit in charge π
Great example for an expletive, but un-fucking-believably not an invective one.
Also this is an example where the following syllable isn't emphasized as taken from the wiki
@NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop Which is why it's "unbefuckinglievable" and *not* "unfuckingbelievable" (yes, this was an editorial discussion)
@GramrgednAngel @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop I don't know what planet those editors live on then, because I've literally never heard a single person in my entire life say "unbefuckinglievable"".
@MiaMarkTwo @GramrgednAngel @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop judging by this thread it seems to be a matter of debate, as there's the stressed syllable factor and the clearly delineated morpheme factor pulling in opposite directions.
https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@gins/117116464629049462
@Yuvalne @GramrgednAngel @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop Nope. It's a clear case of rules (incorrectly) trumping style, in an "up with this I will not put" way.
Nonsense.
@Yuvalne @MiaMarkTwo @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop With this kind of non-standard language question, for my money it's not worth dissecting for too long. The more one digs, the less one "knows."
I ain't losing sleep over something ultimately unimfuckingportant.
@GramrgednAngel @Yuvalne @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop So unimportant you had to have an entire editorial discussion about it? π
@MiaMarkTwo @Yuvalne @NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop A group of copy editors, in a collegial private chat.
We discuss amongst ourselves for the sake of discussion. Intelligent exercises. Asking advice. Seeking input. My opinions are just that, as my colleagues' are theirs. We sometimes agree.
Not sure why the snippiness. I know my job, my clients trust my work, and that's plenty.
@GramrgednAngel or it's the latter, because it's "bleevable" with the first syllable stressed.
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@NickEast_IndieWriter @linguistics @[email protected] @[email protected] @aiop Indeed it does. But is it really that 'fuckin' can only be inserted before a stressed syllable? Or that any syllable *following* 'fuckin' becomes stressed?
As fuckin' fantastic is just as valid as fan-fuckin'-tastic ... π€π
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This is gre-fuckin-at!