I mean, from the outside looking in, sorry dude absolutely not. Punch or Judy or one of them anyway has lost their fucking mind and even though they do not differ on economic policy all that appreciably much they absolutely do differ on many very important things! Such as not dismantling the US economic and military empire, throwing immigrants in concentration camps, or actively threatening the sovereignty of NATO allies. If you are American, you do a disservice to the world by pretending they are the same party. Sadly, the world cannot vote. It is up to Americans to elect a government that will not destabilize the entire planet. Please do the rest of us a solid thx!
That's because there is no left and right. That's all for show. The real fight isn't the culture war, that's just a distraction. The real war is the class war. The only ones actually fighting the class war are the progressives. The only group whose interest is actually the citizens they represent and not just the elite are the progressives and if they get power they will show everyone how shit everything has been. That's the real threat.
DNC and republicans have the same masters. We should just stop wasting our time talking to the "assistant managers" that are either party and just talk to AIPAC directly.
gee I wonder if that money could be better spent, like declaring war against, I don't know...maybe Trump? Just an idea.
But no go ahead and spend all that money to ease your fears of losing your seats. How much of that money comes from Zionist lobbies and weapon manufacturers btw?
Extremes are political views that increase when the current system fails to convince enough people. In USA and Europe, extremes are growing because of the current failure of capitalism to provide people with lifes that match actual progress. As such capitalism is in its late stage, as was theorized, happening in front of our eyes to see.
Extreme right wants power for the fewest, the fittest for survival, the ones desserving the most.
Extreme left wants power for everyone as equal, regardless of stature and place in society.
Not to mean that extreme left is instant heaven on earth, but it can't be said it's authoritarian.
I'd say extremists are gullible, which is why they inevitably come under the influence of authoritarians.
Any idiot can say the various extremist slogans, and the "radicalized" will be swayed and show a lot of loyalty towards anyone that does so. You talk to any extremist, whether far right or far left, they don't actually know how anything works, have no understanding of power dynamics. They just want to support anyone that says the same simple slogans they've been conditioned into repeating themselves.
Marx was not too bad on economics. Identified some real issues. On politics though? Concentrating power into a small group and expecting them to just give up power later? LOL shit doesn't work that way. Guy didn't understand politics at all. Thought everything was dialectical. Like a lot of authoritarian minded people, he didn't think people made a difference. He was wrong about that. Shitheads like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were bigger than his dialectical bullshit and they changed things in their respective countries in a very bad way.
To be fair to Marx, he lived around 150 years ago and didn't have the knowledge of how things would work out we have today. But we do have that knowledge, and history proved that not everything is dialectical, and concentrating power into the hands of a few people turns out badly.
BTW, the economic problems Marx identified were later solved by John Maynard Keynes. Do you understand Keynesian economic policy? It resulted in the peak of human prosperity. And no need for the violent overthrow of governments, and having to have a religious-like belief in the "state whithering away" LOL. At this point Marxism is ironically more like a religious movement than anything else. We have more knowledge about how things work than Karl Marx did, so it's really weird to take everything he said as if they're holy words.
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Almost like there’s one party and the “actual” parties are just Punch and Judy.
I mean, from the outside looking in, sorry dude absolutely not. Punch or Judy or one of them anyway has lost their fucking mind and even though they do not differ on economic policy all that appreciably much they absolutely do differ on many very important things! Such as not dismantling the US economic and military empire, throwing immigrants in concentration camps, or actively threatening the sovereignty of NATO allies. If you are American, you do a disservice to the world by pretending they are the same party. Sadly, the world cannot vote. It is up to Americans to elect a government that will not destabilize the entire planet. Please do the rest of us a solid thx!
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/centrist-democrat-group-15-million-effort-against-democratic-socialists/
Don't care. Bigger fish to fry. You can get healthcare next time.
Losing the race to the bottom isn’t the flex you think it is.
God bless AOC, Mamdani, and El-Sayed.
Go to hell, Joe, Hilary, and Kamala.
Okay have fun with the devolution of your nation into a fascist wasteland then
It’s on you, not me.
That's because there is no left and right. That's all for show. The real fight isn't the culture war, that's just a distraction. The real war is the class war. The only ones actually fighting the class war are the progressives. The only group whose interest is actually the citizens they represent and not just the elite are the progressives and if they get power they will show everyone how shit everything has been. That's the real threat.
Exactly.
Vote DSA or vote Green. A vote for a Republican or a "centrist" is wasted.
But we still have two more years before Jill Stein emerges from her cocoon
You mean her Russian nesting doll?
McCarthyist conspiracy theory getting upvoted in a supposed "leftist" com.
she's not in a cocoon. she's out doing actual activism.
Well if she's the face of the Green Party as their presidential candidate three times, she might want to try doing some actual politics
the media could stop icing her out
They could, but why would they do something so counter to their owners' financial interests?
Wishcasting for a media apparatus that will provide an even playing field isn't much of a strategy either.
I'm just going to keep backing candidates that I like
DNC and republicans have the same masters. We should just stop wasting our time talking to the "assistant managers" that are either party and just talk to AIPAC directly.
"The third way" almost always means fascism.
Third way trying to comment a war where none exist
gee I wonder if that money could be better spent, like declaring war against, I don't know...maybe Trump? Just an idea.
But no go ahead and spend all that money to ease your fears of losing your seats. How much of that money comes from Zionist lobbies and weapon manufacturers btw?
They won't declare war on him because they condone his actions
YES, MAKE THOSE LIBERAL CENTRIST COWARDS FIGHT. FORCE THEM TO SQUANDER EVERYTHING STRUGGLING IN VAIN.
Read the comment you replied to again. Leftism simply doesn't stand up to criticism, so it's necessary to censor the criticism.
Bro your comments are just a bunch of looney sounding ad hominem attacks.
Typical fascist response.
Mods removed my comment because leftists can't handle any honest criticism.
Extremists are extreme, both roads lead to authoritarianism.
Extremes are political views that increase when the current system fails to convince enough people. In USA and Europe, extremes are growing because of the current failure of capitalism to provide people with lifes that match actual progress. As such capitalism is in its late stage, as was theorized, happening in front of our eyes to see.
Extreme right wants power for the fewest, the fittest for survival, the ones desserving the most. Extreme left wants power for everyone as equal, regardless of stature and place in society.
Not to mean that extreme left is instant heaven on earth, but it can't be said it's authoritarian.
I'd say extremists are gullible, which is why they inevitably come under the influence of authoritarians.
Any idiot can say the various extremist slogans, and the "radicalized" will be swayed and show a lot of loyalty towards anyone that does so. You talk to any extremist, whether far right or far left, they don't actually know how anything works, have no understanding of power dynamics. They just want to support anyone that says the same simple slogans they've been conditioned into repeating themselves.
Lol you're such an idiot.
Go talk to a leftist and they're going to demand you read 50 tomes of literature on politics and economics.
I talk to leftists on this site all the time. They just throw childish insults because they don't know anything about politics and economics.
Case in point.
Ok go read some Marx
Marx was not too bad on economics. Identified some real issues. On politics though? Concentrating power into a small group and expecting them to just give up power later? LOL shit doesn't work that way. Guy didn't understand politics at all. Thought everything was dialectical. Like a lot of authoritarian minded people, he didn't think people made a difference. He was wrong about that. Shitheads like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were bigger than his dialectical bullshit and they changed things in their respective countries in a very bad way.
To be fair to Marx, he lived around 150 years ago and didn't have the knowledge of how things would work out we have today. But we do have that knowledge, and history proved that not everything is dialectical, and concentrating power into the hands of a few people turns out badly.
BTW, the economic problems Marx identified were later solved by John Maynard Keynes. Do you understand Keynesian economic policy? It resulted in the peak of human prosperity. And no need for the violent overthrow of governments, and having to have a religious-like belief in the "state whithering away" LOL. At this point Marxism is ironically more like a religious movement than anything else. We have more knowledge about how things work than Karl Marx did, so it's really weird to take everything he said as if they're holy words.
Thank you for proving my point. Again.
You got nothing.