I updated my dishwasher’s firmware
Now that it's finally plugged in again. I just finished moving the socket I had wired up further to the right so I could put one of the cabinets I pulled out during installation next to it. Which necessitated making the cabinet structurally sound, because these cabinets are crap. Which required shoring up and leveling the counter. Before which I had to pull the new sink out again and remount it correctly.
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Why in the world would a dishwasher need firmware?
Possibly to patch the security vulnerability they didn't tell you about. Which could, in theory, prevent your dish washer from mining bitcoin after it was comprised.
To operate the hardware. We’ve had firmware as long as we’ve had electronics.
The real question is: Why does a dishwasher need to be connected to the internet? That just opens it up to all sorts of online threats and creates more problems than it solves.
Like that one time a chemical plants internal systems were hacked through a coffee machine.
If it’s connected, it can be hacked. All you need is an Internet connection and some skill.
Speaking as a professional: if the chemical plant itself was hacked through a coffee machine, then several other people have already thoroughly fucked the Swiss cheese and the entire IT infrastructure needs to be audited. Devices in a public area should NEVER have been allowed to talk to production machines in the first place.
Yeah, it sounds like it was a disaster waiting to happen.
A casino was hacked by via an aquarium thermometer
https://thehackernews.com/2018/04/iot-hacking-thermometer.html
About the connection to the internet... Eh I've got no idea. But if your home starts the dishwasher when the pv delivers enough power or the battery is full then it's useful. That doesn't need to be public to the internet or an connection to the outside. Just an open API.
To get instructions from your refrigerator that is already part of a botnet.
So they can introduce monthly subscriptions?
.. To update the firmware if course!
You might ask why do you need to update the firmware , well to fix vulnerabilities from being connected to the internet.
The latest firmware tells the manufacturer what you ate, and with how many you where. Now it can also discuss with the fridge the vitamins and calories you had and determine together what needs to be in stock.
Why does a dishwasher need to download firmware updates? I suddenly feel really old.
I….dont know. They were saying stuff about intelligent cycles or something. Who knows if it's true.
It's all malarkey. Technology connections has good videos on dishwashers and how to optimize their performance
I watched that before I bought this. I do the things. It gets my dishes clean. It tells me when it's done. Bing bang boom. That's all I need.
I have a dishwasher that does all those things without using the internet at all.
Lol you watched a video about why you shouldn't buy one of these... And you still bought one?
Dunno what you mean. I watched this video on how to get the most out of your dishwasher. These are the things I do, and it all, works great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0
So it says but the cheapest pods money can buy, not to buy an iot dishwasher.
They're called motorcycles smh
Don’t forget to keep enjoying the benefits of connectivity.
I really like how lots of appliance manufacturers skipped from basic circuitry and the occasional relay straight to networked slop with a controller app.
What happend to quality embeded programming? My old TV had an optional firmware update feature through a USB stick if for some reason the well tested factory software wasn't up to spec on something.
Meanwhile I actively try not to update anything that isn't strictly necessary.
Keep enjoying the benefits of connectivity.
It gets really ominous when you read it as an order, rather than encouragement.
Dishwashers shouldn't need firmware.
Add the dishes. Add the soap. Press the button. Wait like 40 minutes. Now you have clean dishes.
What's to update?
I'd have been pretty happy to be able to update it to fix the dishwasher that came with our house.
It could not, no matter what you did, resume a cycle. If it was paused for any reason, the only way out was to power it off and start a new wash.
The drain pump also sounded like shaking a soup can full of nuts and bolts, which contributed more to it being replaced than did the shonky electronics.
what benefits of connectivity do you get?
So far just a notification that it's done. That's pretty much all I expected. I didn't get it for the online feature.
that’s cool, maybe in the future it can use ai to see if some dishes are still dirty and give another wash, or in the future future targeted streams that can focus directly on the worst bits
Apparently it does have some level of dirt sensitivity! And it looks like I can make custom “smart cycles.” and it does tell me how much energy it uses, which I like, because electricity is stupid expensive here. I dunno. I can tell you it does a good job getting my dishes clean, and that's my priority.
that's one fancy washing machine 😎
I assume you're in an apartment and can't get solar/battery?
Nay, this is my first house. I would love to start going solar, but I don't think it's in the budget this year.
Welp if you get a chance it's a huge money saver and stress saver, my electricity bill has gone down to like $5 a month
I get https://flowpower.com.au/residential/ 45c a kwh I export into the grid during peak times as well so that eats into my daily supply charge because I pretty much never get power from the grid anymore
May I ask about how many total kWh you use per month?
I just use a dish rag. The subscription plan is expensive though, so I only use the basic features.
Your pad sounds like a shit hole.