One actually supports the LGBTQ community, the other one is homophobic as fuck and member of Putin's party. None is lesbian though, and just used the male fantasy to sell more albums.
I mean, they were 14 when the band was created by a Russian producer who had a fetish for lesbian schoolgirls so no, they did not have a lot of choice.
The loudest people criticizing queer people are always the ones who seem totally unsure of their own supposed straightness, or maybe the ones who consume the lesbian/gay porn. Seems like proving you arent gay requires screaming really loud.
(This is not about anything in this thread that I’ve read specifically, just something I’ve experienced myself)
It’s also really annoying when you point this out and someone comes to champion the good name of all the other queer folk, as if you meant to imply that a person’s queerness, rather than their internal powerstruggle to remain closeted, was the reason for whatever slight they’re performing against the community.
It’s like, no, did you even read what was written? It’s such a weak argument and thought-terminating cliche, and it denies that part of the human condition is that one can try to suppress a part of themselves so ferociously that they externalize it onto everyone else.
The lyrics are so much better in Russian. They are very tender and heartfelt and really do a good job showcasing what it’s like being a gay teenager in love.
It's gays everyone's so concerned about. Lesbians were always the exception, for obvious reasons (fulfilling predominantly male fantasies of two sexy girls playing with each other, while not being off-putting to most women)
LGBT just so happens to have L in it, but honestly, I didn't hear much about lesbians being prosecuted in Russia in any capacity.
I always thought that was such a boneheaded take for a straight man. You want to encourage the mangays and discourage the ladygays. Let the men knock eachother out of the dating pool and let simple supply and demand increase your value without you having to do a single sit-up.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
Edit : I mean obviously you dont want to do any of that, you want to just live and let live, but if we're picking and choosing bigotry like that then at least make it make sense
:::
The men that have "concern" for the sexuality of others, for the most part, already don't think women should have that choice to begin with, and are therefore unconcerned about Lesbians.
(No need for prosecution or persecution, when you already think of them as objects)
I knew a lesbian who lived in Russia during my BBS days. I think about her sometimes wondering either how she's coping there or where she eventually moved to
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One actually supports the LGBTQ community, the other one is homophobic as fuck and member of Putin's party. None is lesbian though, and just used the male fantasy to sell more albums.
weren’t they like forced into it?
I mean, they were 14 when the band was created by a Russian producer who had a fetish for lesbian schoolgirls so no, they did not have a lot of choice.
That sounds awful
IIRC they were gay for show. But man, what a show that was to young me
Good songs too
I didn't really notice the songs.
They're real bangers
I mean did you even hear all the things she said?
(all the things she said)
They're running through my head
The loudest people criticizing queer people are always the ones who seem totally unsure of their own supposed straightness, or maybe the ones who consume the lesbian/gay porn. Seems like proving you arent gay requires screaming really loud.
im super gay i love doing gay stuff with other girlsHELL YEAH LET'S GOOOOO
I HATE GAY PEOPLE, WOMEN SHOULDNT BE WITH WOMEN
ok baby, please can you go away? Im recording something, we can scissor later
KILL ALL GAY PEOPLE
This is unironically a main theme of Shrek the Musical.
(This is not about anything in this thread that I’ve read specifically, just something I’ve experienced myself)
It’s also really annoying when you point this out and someone comes to champion the good name of all the other queer folk, as if you meant to imply that a person’s queerness, rather than their internal powerstruggle to remain closeted, was the reason for whatever slight they’re performing against the community.
It’s like, no, did you even read what was written? It’s such a weak argument and thought-terminating cliche, and it denies that part of the human condition is that one can try to suppress a part of themselves so ferociously that they externalize it onto everyone else.
Nah they were always homophobic and always trying to spread it across the whole post Soviet space
ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD YEAH RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD
The lyrics are so much better in Russian. They are very tender and heartfelt and really do a good job showcasing what it’s like being a gay teenager in love.
Nah, you don't understand!
It's gays everyone's so concerned about. Lesbians were always the exception, for obvious reasons (fulfilling predominantly male fantasies of two sexy girls playing with each other, while not being off-putting to most women)
LGBT just so happens to have L in it, but honestly, I didn't hear much about lesbians being prosecuted in Russia in any capacity.
I always thought that was such a boneheaded take for a straight man. You want to encourage the mangays and discourage the ladygays. Let the men knock eachother out of the dating pool and let simple supply and demand increase your value without you having to do a single sit-up.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Edit : I mean obviously you dont want to do any of that, you want to just live and let live, but if we're picking and choosing bigotry like that then at least make it make sense :::
The loudest anti gay people seems to be gay people with severe issues with their own sexuality
The men that have "concern" for the sexuality of others, for the most part, already don't think women should have that choice to begin with, and are therefore unconcerned about Lesbians. (No need for prosecution or persecution, when you already think of them as objects)
russia is the gayest homophobic country
I don't know, the US crashes its gay dating apps every time its homophobes have a big meeting.
I knew a lesbian who lived in Russia during my BBS days. I think about her sometimes wondering either how she's coping there or where she eventually moved to
girl…
sorry, yes - lesbian girl
no, I mean like why didnt u ask her out at the time 😭 (sorry for assuming ur sapphic too)
The Bolshevik decriminalised homosexuality, and then Stalin came along and fucked it all up.
stalin fucks everything up (lenin was that good either tho, way better than stalin tbh, in our hearts Spartacus Germany couped stalin)
Tbh its stalin
Not exactly hard to be better
I think it's pronounced Stalin
Allegedly this is somewhat of a misnomer. Not writing it into the first version of a penal code doesn't mean acceptance
A brief summary is given in w.g. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NcJbrsk8F_Q&pp=iggCQAE%3D
Not just the queers being "enemies of the state", but also Putin and his Black Hundreds decided Pussy Riot is also classed as a "terrorist" group.
...and after all the things you said, all the things you said...
running through my head, running through my head, running through my head
Looks nervously at the UK
Weren't both members locked up?