The Oblivious Inside Story Of Leverage Research 1.0
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The Inside story of Leverage Research
This should be interesting, it's about an organisation in the EA milieu that even other EAs though might be a bit too culty. Don't know who the writer Lydia Laurenson is, but she does come off as a bit of a cult enthusiast herself, and is probably more than a bit rationalist adjacent.
edit: The companion piece about the background of why she wrote it is quite a ride, if only for the biographical tidbits: she is indeed very cult adjacent, she had a spiritual experience and now believes in capital G god, she got engaged to an unnamed far-right writer but they broke up when she got pregnant.
Also the Leverage article was contracted to appear in the New York Magazine but she pulled the story because of uh declining trust in the field of journalism, but then she goes on to imply that the real problem was that the article was shaping up as a bit too pro-Leverage:
I pulled the story once I started feeling like it simply wouldn’t be possible for me to publish a version with NYMag that didn’t carry a subtle hostility towards Leverage, not to mention affiliated communities in Silicon Valley — and, more importantly to me, hostility towards a core spiritual sensibility that I see in both myself and in the people the story describes.
edit edit: Why can't these people ever be normal: Why I Was Part Of The Neoreactionary or Dissident Right Movement In 2020
edit edit edit: Jesus fucking christ she's Curtis Yarvin's baby momma.
edit x 4: Index of the read along posts, part titles are from the original:
https://lydialaurenson.substack.com/p/the-inside-story-of-leverage-researchOpen linkView original on awful.systems
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Liberalism is a disease of the mind where, due to an inability to distinguished aesthetics from substance, one ends up judging things on means rather than ends.
History's greatest monsters have been well dressed and genteel. Many of the most ardent fighters for humanity are coarse, flawed, and unpleasant. Mayhaps a lesson about books and covers? Let's see where this group ends up
Oh Apollo, free me from this curse.
"...meet it is I set it down, That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain" —some guy
Me, catching up with the edits: wow that escalated quickly
butbutbut she's above the trivial politics:
(from the “why i was part of the neoreactionary” etc. etc.)
I just went to a party in the Bay Area last night, and nobody talked like this. Perhaps she's eliding some other, more trenchant details about her social circles?
for an entirely inexplicable reason it reminded me of balaji srinivasan.
neither left wing or right wing (right wing (crackpot edition))
neither left wing nor right wing but some secret third thing (batshit right wing)
Turns out 'Grey Tribe' was a glorified NPC Wojak But Rationalist^TM^
An Oxymoron If There Ever Was One
It’s fascinating how they’ve appropriated that word to basically mean “dumbest fucking nazi grifters who make vlogs”
(Picks up the golden
crownfedora splattered with blood and brains) I really didn't think they'd just do this, I thought they wanted to abolish woo not embrace it. They seemed like Internet blowhards not a California cult.Heavy is the head that wears the Spirit Halloween golden trilby.
More fool you, Yud had three or four decoy trilbys at LessOnline 2026, and he got them from a dedicated costume supplier!
Is this the origin story of a new, remarkably sedentary Batman villain?
Is "a non-traditional Buddhist order" a way of not naming OAK? OAK is the California branch of the MAPLE Buddhist Ratiionalist Cult whose gurus have also been accused of rape. I don't know if OAK was connected to Leverage.
Edit / I Escaped a Cult - Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth Review
Part 3: Practical Magic is basically an x-files episode, what am I even reading
A lot of this feels like they overdid the breathwork and resistance breathing exercises and as a consequence are constantly slightly hypoxic. Recuperating an exhausted respiratory system can be a hell of a time because you can't exactly take a break from breathing to rest , just a lot of bad headeachey sleep.
source:freedivingdabbler.Also there's a part where David does some bodywork that involves pushing the other guy on the heart which resulted in a long period of those aftereffects, and having a weight on your chest sounds a lot like doing resistance breathing without being aware of it. Someone in other place very justifiably worries if there were a carbon dioxide leak in the premises. Nausea is also constantly mentioned, which I think can be a symptom of low blood pressure, which could be a thing If you are constantly exhausted from your breathing being all messed up.
Nevermind, Geoff to the rescue:
There's an extended tangent of overexamining the claims of Zoe (see start of pt1) about people having had psychotic breaks following these practises by asking Leveragers who are willing to talk about it, to conclude that while these things can be very common in such settings it is very doubtful that they took place in Levrage 1.0 .
This mostly stands out because of the pattern of going the extra mile with due diligence on a victim's claims (who notably didn't return the writers calls while Geoff more than happy to be quoted) versus the part about reproducing guru David's apprehensions for Leverage as if that lets him off the hook for being an obvious charlatan all too willing to take power and mess with people's heads.
Goddammit:
This is getting increasing hard to unpack in sneer form, like you have the story of James, both in a long term relationship and simultaneously getting it on with his PhD supervisor, as rationalists are want to. Is the supervisor taking advantage of him? Who knows, definitely not the writer who won't even comment on James' range of chronic symptoms being consistent with PTSD, even when L1.0 tech causes him to think he might have been repressing memories of being sexually abused at a young age. All's well that ends well, James decides he is unworthy of the primary girlfriend and breaks up with her for to be with his supervisor and continue The Work with Leverage 1.0 .
I'll take a break.
I guess I'll just do a read along write up:
Part 1:
This is the author by the way:
A lot of this unintentionally reads like what here's what the cultic milieu looks like from the point of view of those especially vulnerable to cult influence:
On definitely not cult building:
Most sanitized description of nrx ever, and also diversity is great when it comes to letting the fascists in:
But for the rationalists it was Tuesday:
You don't say:
There's also a lot of subtext that the people at Leverage never seem to actually do anything besides talk about stuff and cultic self care, that doesn't rise to the surface because the writer is overly sympathetic to them. She tries to counterbalance this with reminders about how there was a semi-constant rotation of ultra rich casual guests and that some Leverage adjacent people went to do Important Things, like Dario and the wealthy longevity guy.
Gradually, a cult of personality with the stated purpose of self-replicating in other organisations emerged:
Cultic self-care:
Then there's some stuff about how our benevolent leader Geoff decided that academic psychology isn't a real science and should instead be replaced with his own Connection Theory, which as far as I can tell is basically a brainwashing framework:
He also cured some guys caffeine addiction by laying hands at the start of the article, which I didn't think much of at the time because I thought the author just threw it in for flavour, and that her overall approach would be uh different. Later CT also cured his nagging worries about being a creep, good for him I guess:
ConTheory apparently also cured some guys cluster headaches, others not so much:
Eventually the slovenian nrxer reinvents founders' mythos from first principles and they decide to monetize it by creating a become-a-founder self-help seminars thing with a shared profits arrangement with the wanna-be founders:
Part 2 soon, or eventually.
It's weird to see the Great Founder Theory laid out so clearly because it's basically explicitly declaring allegiance to what I was starting to call the Great Man Theory of Everything - the belief that rather than being historically contingent and reliant on circumstances as much as any personal characteristics some people are just innately "agentic" in a way that others aren't and the key to success isn't in finding a way to navigate the world but in unlocking this "agentic" quality in yourself. Notably the corollary of doing this (or of being one of those special innately "agentic" people) is that you have the right and duty to impose your will on the malleable clay of the world and people around you. I maintain that this is the rotten kernel at the heart of so many of the batshit weird things that the rats believe and do, and the fact that it simply isn't true is why their broader schemes keep sputtering out or failing, though with enough money and power behind them that they continue to leave a frankly impressive amount of human suffering in their wake.
Actually, taking a closer look at this line:
So unless we're already getting into some very culty language where words like "Basic Goals" or "logic" are cult jargon that only loosely resemble their more general use this sounds less like an overview of a theory and more like an incredibly obvious statement that would have to fit into basically any psychological paradigm other than maybe hard behaviorism.
When I first read this I zeroed in on 'problematic behavior' to mean anything not matching Geoff's idea of optimal behavior, in line with rationalist notions of how you can't really disagree with rat tenets, you can only have bad epistemics that you should fix by reading the sequences and rationalist influencers.
In retrospect, the part where he considers his theory to be a do-over of traditional psychology except we'll make it scientific this time was probably the more load bearing bit, in the sense that maybe the whole point of Leverage 1.0 was having an isolated group of unsuspecting test subjects on whom he could do experimental psychology on.
edit: To add some context from Zoe's account:
They admit it!
Part 2: Body and Energy
Using fake or cherry-picked results in your papers is totally just a matter of philosophical opinion:
This is good epistemics:
"I too used to listen to satanic music before someone finally got me to read the bible":
Then Tyler and a bunch of other Leveragers sign up to the Energy Healing School for a paltry $10K each.
Some friction follows between the hippie style meditation practices and CT, because apparently the former makes available for introspection mental space that isn't accessible by the latter. Also this is sure to end well:
This I assume is on top of dismissing psychology completely because dear leader didn't like it, so they have absolutely no external point of reference for what's going on mentally with them.
David the guru appears:
David joins the slovenian and Tyler becomes his apprentice. David becomes a Leverage 'master'.
The slovenian nrxer acquires a reputation of being a sex pest:
Just normal rationalist workplace things:
There is some bruhaha and a cybersecurity related falling out and David and Samo's ex leave Leverage, but David's legacy remains:
Yeah, this is now cult cult.
Also the writer doesn't want all this unpleasantness to reflect badly on David, so she makes sure to add this preface, how thoughtful:
Tune in for Part 3 I guess.
yeah he's a Bismarck Analysis/Palladium guy now lmao
Burja has always had remarkably bad vibes, but it knocks my estimation of him completely into the basement to learn that he was so involved with a shitshow like Leverage. I suspect that daddy Peter and the Twitter/Hacker News crossover crowd is what's propping up Palladium, but I believe we discussed it here when even the HN crowd laughed off Burja's bro Wolf Tivy.
According to the article the whole thing was a Leverage project:
It's full of knowledge I want but buried in lots of text I don't wanna read.
What it boils down is that it was an actual honest to god cult that was getting tons of EA money to develop a self help system that would turn people into Elon Musks (their go-to example for an apex human). They also came up with a stablecoin and a cryptofash magazine that are both still around, and did a lot of behind the scenes work for EA at large, like getting the ball rolling with organising EA conferences around the world.
I think the reason all these exposés are so tiresome to read is because they tend to focus on the boring cult stuff instead of the bonkers rationalist lore (like how Leverage people were trying to cast HPMOR spells on each other), or the long shadow it casts on our current cultural moment due to its deep influence in the EA/rat subculture, like how Amodei though not a member seemed to be a regular there, Grimes is a contributor to Palladium, ex-levs have launched elite coaching companies that presumably implement lev-tech and so on.
Additionally, in true rationalist fashion nobody was punished and nothing was learned, so the people responsible are still around, still getting Thiel money to do much of the same stuff with probably the same issues, just keeping a lower profile this time.
edit: this is much shorter https://www.todayintabs.com/p/over-leveraged thanks @[email protected]
Also, the Leverage Staffer who appeared on LessWrong to defend Geoff Anders' practice of taking his disciples to bed was at one time CEO of the Center for Effective Altruism in the UK. https://old.reddit.com/r/EffectiveAltruism/comments/1tyr0y0/request_can_someone_please_write_a_deep_dive_on/
I love this bit on "did they use goat's blood in a silver chalice? Rookie mistake, my teacher used a brazen chalice and he was only carried off by demons once."
Which is a euphemism for success in brainwashing.
Also, having dismissed the entirety of psychology and psychiatry as unscientific, they naturally landed ass first on Jung and Dion Fortune as major points of reference.
Everything from the eugenics to the Social Darwinism to the ritual magick to the Jung to the goldbug economics is reviving ideas from the 1880s-1920s. If academics gave them up 50 or 100 years ago, that just proves that mainstream wisdom can't be trusted!
I can't think of any catastrophic global upheavals in or shortly after that era that might have given people reason to rethink the ideas that were in vogue at the time.
Nope.
Part 3 Part 2
L1.0 seems to slowly be turning into Hogwarts with everyone going all in on various occult practices they find in mythology and fairy tales. They are still hiring at this point, so it's entirely possible your first meeting as a new hire could be about carrying around iron nails to ground your spiritual energy.
The author makes sure we know that Nevin thinks that while the ultimate practicality of all this may have been dubious, “Had the research continued, they would have ultimately done, I think, a very good job of making sense of the area and coming up with theories and testing them.” So it's almost fine I guess.
Then she goes on to describe obvious cult shenanigans like the leader sexing whoever he wants in the most
obliviouswhitewashyirresponsibleuncritical way possible:But don't worry, Geoff feels bad about it, whatever it was, I would think simply stepping out on the workplace polycule shouldn't merit such a special mention given everything else going on.
We close part three with a somewhat odd epilogue that starts out with (paraphrasing) "many leveragers believed that maybe it's possible that there may have been a non-provably non-negligible chance" that Geoff was allocating funds with respect to who he was fucking at the time. This uncharacteristic throwing of dear leader under the bus helps draw attention away from the rest of the epilogue where in a very roundabout and muddled way it seems to be implied that the actual issue was everyone using L1.0 tech to gaslight the hell out of each other.
Specifically, I think the part about using leverage's homebrew brainwash toolkit to cure jealousy and broken hearts is as close as the author is willing to get to alluding that there was a lot of gaslighting and manipulation of people into sexual roles they wouldn't otherwise have consented to going on, like maybe being part of dear leaders harem until he grew bored of them and cast them aside and pulled their funding.
On to part 4
"After all, it was completely fucked"
That's probably a euphemism for levs subjecting each other to hours long so-called debugging sessions, i.e. rationalist flavored scientology auditing.
More mundane cult stuff was also taking place, like keeping everyone constantly exhausted from continuous busywork, while also guilt-tripping them out of having free time and non-cult related interests in general. This seems to be a refrain in other witness testimonies that's absent in Laurenson's telling, unless she threw a passing mention somewhere that I didn't catch.
An official statement by a Leverage staffer back in 2021 defended the organization like this:
Laurenson's story that "at the beginning of April 2018, one person Geoff was involved with, who was also his employee, found out that he’d gotten into a secret romance with another colleague he practiced bodywork with." does not sound like great consent.
Yuh think?
Look, if our founder was abusing his power and influence over the organization to manipulate his underlings into sexual relationships and/or reward those who agreed to such, would he really have done it three times?
k5 rusty has a recap this week: https://www.todayintabs.com/p/over-leveraged
Cool short read, I'd recommend it too.
One notable additional piece of information pointed out here is that after the NYMag thing fell apart she got a $35K grant from what turns out to be a sort of rationalist slush fund to finish the piece. The original contract was for $9500 so it's possible she came out quite ahead on the deal.
Supposedly a bunch of it went to things that would normally be handled on the publisher's end, like professional fact checking, but having now read the piece I don't really know what that would look like. She has Dear Leader Geoff Anders on the record like 16 times (k5 rusty counted) and is consistently pretty uncritical of his claims, AND she's best friends with most of the "ex"-levs named in the article, like did it take thirty thousand dollars to find out that guru David's origin story is unsubstantiable bollocks and to triple-double check Zoe's claim of psychotic breaks? (verdict: when rationalists in a high-control environment get PTSD from seeing and hearing things that aren't there it's not a psychotic break but some secret other thing).
Also there's a bunch of most-important-philosopher-in-history Geoff's original writings and they are predictably bad and ridiculous:
(article has link to the entire word doc)
Leverage published The “Post-Experiences” Inquiry Report: Factors and Mistakes that Contributed to a Range of Negative Experiences on Our 2011-2019 Research Collaboration. It does not mention demons, Buddhists, neoreactionaries, or bodywork.
The emphasis on how Geoff Anders is very sorry (but not how he claimed he had solved philosophy and was about to solve psychology and by the way he could help his disciples better if they stripped and assumed the position) reminds me of Anna Salamon not-talking talking about what went wrong at CFAR 1.0.
“a range of negative experiences” on our EIGHT YEAR PROJECT
nobody has “a range of negative experiences” over eight years
you have “a range of negative experiences” over about a week maybe, a month tops
when you leave a job after a year you leave with “a bunch of” or “a lot of” negative experiences, minimum, and that’s EVEN IF it was more good than bad
on an EIGHT YEAR TIMELINE you have well exceeded a “range” if things went fucking BRILLIANTLY, let alone if you got within about two hairs of jonestowning your way out of the whole thing
Part 4: Intention War
Where a rationalist bubble of impressionable young pranayama (and possibly psychedelics) enthusiasts after having pinballed from one guru to the next for a while enter the yes-and phase and reinvent tulpas from first principles.
It's kind of interesting in that while they have noticed that these experiences occur only when being prompted by other Leveragers, instead of thinking that maybe the vibes in this place are completely fucked in the causing bad trips sort of way and maybe the main thing Connection Theory is good for is making you really vulnerable to outside influence, they interpreted it as a psychic contagion that they need to keep contained from the outside world and so double down on the isolation.
Things seem to be falling apart since an overabundance of caution of not catching a malevolent 'intention' makes communication and organisation difficult. Can't wait to find out what Geoff's been doing during all this time, since a big problem here seems to be how completely lost and lacking general direction everyone seems to be. Is this like his version of a stanford prison experiment type situation? edit: yeah we never find out what Geoff was doing during the Intention Wars.
After months of PTSD inducing anxiety they finally grow out of this phase by employing the dark magic of interorganizational meetings and actually talking things out:
Some yada yada about carl jung and mah taboo subjects of research, on to the next part.
I've been reading Zoe's account and apparently he was giving talks and presentations about said Intention Objects:
Hard to tell if he was purposely fanning the flames or himself lost in the sauce. Also I called intention objects tulpa knock-offs earlier, but Zoe's additional details make me think of them more as thetans.
So many red flags to unpack that it could fill a suitcase.
Seriously. Like the pitch is literally, you're hired, now leave your old life behind to permanently move in with us. Our founder is a great genius who created this incredible philosophy on how to shape reality and influence people, and your job is to practice it 24/7 and take notes. You will also be giving up huge chunks of your income to our charities, and don't forget that sexual boundaries in the
compoundgroup homeoffice will be really really muddled.Part 5: How it ended
They start making a bunch of money form a third-rate stablecoin while the author claims they invented the concept, and also they decided that to completely get rid of intention objects/tulpas/egregores they had to become traditionally religious, like literally attending catholic mass and sikh study groups.
Just when they almost fold in a non traditional buddhist monk order that apparently turns out to be another, different sa-infested rationalist cult, Geoff decides a restructuring is in order, which amounts to basically dissolving Leverage.
This happens in a sort of ceremony where Geoff unhangs employee portraits while crying all the while, because presenting the cult leader as a sensitive human especially deserving of empathy is very important to this author.
Remaining leveragers form a sort of diaspora in the broader EA/rat community, and also COVID happens. The buddhist cult ends up with the Leverage office building.
For normal people, the following would be a massive conflict of interest statement. For the author, it was Tuesday:
Queue breakfast club ending: Geoff does some bullshit inquiry and promises to continue learning from the lessons of L1.0, and that he is now monogamous, for real this time. He then promptly started what "some" are describing as Leverage 2.0. Some leverageres from the slovenian's Psychology group founded Palladium Magazine while others got work as coaches to the elites, occasionally subcontracting stuff to the author, who actually bothers to admit is a conflict of interest this time, albeit in an inline note. Rationalists and EAs gain cultural notoriety due to SBF and AI. We are told things between ex-levs and the broader EA and rat community can be tense due to mutual accusations of cultishness.
The ending is on a super weird note, with ex-lev and close friend of the author Emily Dame waxing poetic about how she's been reading the bible and her time at Leverage was just like being one of christ's apostles:
The final paragraph is basically a restatement of the pitch for Geoff's connection theory:
All the comments are her ex-lev friends congratulating her.
That's it.
Thank you for your service in writing up this sneer-a-long and in unearthing this maddening artifact from the unseen cyclopean depths of substack. Zoe Cursi's account seems like a far more sober examination of the dynamic and at least has the decency to treat the extreme distress that this whole thing caused as a problem rather than a sign that there was something powerful at work (that something obviously being the cult dynamic itself). But it's rare to be able to see the inside of a cult from the perspective of a believer like this, and the way that manifests here is fascinating.
I've been reading Zoe's account and she gives a radically different picture of especially Geoff, just by mentioning stuff he was saying and doing while Leverage was active, instead of focusing on his later heartfelt regrets.
Uhhhhhhhhhhh
Hell yeah.
I'd like to echo YNIH, this has been a wild ride. Thanks for history and the analysis! Reinventing the wheel but worse (i.e. rizzless Scientology) is certainly a trope with our subjects, isnt it?
On a side note, as someone who has enjoyed the occasional temporal lobe seizure, I wonder if Lydia ought to have a quiet word with a neurologist. The déjà vu might be a portent, but not the one you feel that it is.
Even habryka has misgivings about the Laurenson writeup:
Laurenson herself replies and double downs on her no psychotic breaks at Leverage assessment. Her stance on psychotic break diagnosis comes off about as self-serving as SlateScott's it's not real autism if I can plausibly be described as having it musings from back in the day.