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lemmy.world

*Alleged serial killer. He was murdered before confessing or being convicted of the other murders.

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piefed.world

Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders.

I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen.

In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz Balbín was suspected of being a serial killer based on his prior conviction which is true.

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lemmy.world

That’s like saying gravity isn’t actually gravity and didn’t do gravity things unless a scientist tests it exhaustively and then says “gravity exists.”

Anyone can see gravity does indeed exist and does gravity things, it’s the extent of the properties of gravity that need to be left to the experts.

Hitler did genocide. No question.

How much did he genocide? Quite a lot, but we don’t have precise numbers.

So yes, Hitler did do genocidal things regardless of whether or not he had a court convict him of those things, and no, we don’t need “allegedly” as pedantry or exploiting an irrelevant technicality.

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lemmy.world

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Your mistake was using “Hitler” and “allegedly”, an incredibly poor choice.

The rest of your argument is plausible.

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piefed.world

Saying somebody isn’t something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen.

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lemmy.world

There is direct evidence to support hitler commiting genocide, so we don't need to convict him.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

The Nuremberg trials were all about deciding whether Hitler had committed genocide

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lemmy.world

While strangling him, Poggi mocked and insulted Díaz Balbín, telling him that he would never hurt anyone anymore because he [Poggi] was going to kill him.

Hero

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ragicareply
lemmy.ml

Once alone, Poggi ordered Díaz Balbín to undress, and he got naked too. According to reports, Poggi wanted to provoke Díaz Balbín in order to prove that he was a [sexual deviant]

Okaaaaaaay....

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It's pretty confusing but this didn't actually happen, the truth is actually weirder. After the psychologist was released from prison he starred in a movie about himself about the murder, but it's a sexualized version of the event itself. Somehow that crept into the Wikipedia article of the serial killer as truth.

I'm not making this shit up lmao

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Since he never confessed and they didn't have enough evidence to prove he'd murdered anyone other than the original 3 he'd served his time for, I think he should be called an "alleged" serial killer. The article even mentions other murders while he was jailed, and possible SS tactics during interrogation. Poggi's starting to look like just another bad cop to me.

Are we 100% sure of Poggi's whereabouts during the murders? Strangling your patsy and getting a light sentence would be a nifty tactic....

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Azzureply
leminal.space

It's actually crazy that you call that a hero and many people seem to agree with you. He was already apprehended and no danger to anyone anymore. You especially left out in your quote that the psychologist forced him to get naked and got naked himself before the strangling. The psychologist is not much better than the serial killer imo.

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He was already apprehended and no danger to anyone anymore.

So it's okay to commit crimes if you call "Time Out!" By the time the police show up?

He was already apprehended and no danger to anyone anymore.

The Psychologist needed to force a comfession out of him to imprison him, and he couldn't. The killer had been released once before, prematurely, and was taking advantage of a weak and underdeveloped judicial system.

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so it's okay to kill people so long as you just accuse them of some terrible crime first?

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