EcoDataCenter will design, build and operate the underlying infrastructure in Sweden, leveraging renewable energy, advanced cooling technologies and deep expertise in high-density AI data centres
“Together with Mistral AI, we are building high-performance AI infrastructure on Swedish soil – with sustainability, resilience and European strategic autonomy at its core
Almost. They don't actually show that the renewables they're using would not have been built anyways and that they're not displacing decarbonization as a result. Or that the wind and solar are supplied at the same time and place as the data center.
Doing this stuff well takes keeping track of a lot of moving parts.
They don’t actually show that the renewables they’re using would not have been built anyways and that they’re not displacing decarbonization as a result.
What :D
This is exactly where you want to build data centres??
This is a good start, but I'd like to see a industry-standard reporting structure & enforce auditing by a non-affiliated third party.
It doesn't go into detail regarding energy & water sources for their data centres, the construction & impact of those data centres (if applicable), nor how they're looking to reduce their environmental footprint. In fact, it clearly states their impact grows the larger the model gets (so their impact is only going to get worse), and their primary method of reduction was user education.
They've provided no reduction goals for themselves, which could include seeking renewable energy sources, water reduction, software optimisation, etc etc. They've also not mentioned their obsolescence planning - what impact equipment life cycling will incur, or how they're planning to reduce those impacts (e.g. disposal, frequency, etc).
The report downplays the generation costs, comparing it to a radish & video streaming. It omits the average tokens consumed per request, and should be sharing individual statistics for both text, image, video, and audio generation categories. These should be compared against industry standards (both AI & Non-AI).
This is also nearly a year old; are they going to be issuing a new report in July? The frequency of the reports should be mandated annual.
Their current report is nothing more than a puff piece to say they're "environmentally conscious" and "transparent", without actually being transparent.
This is also nearly a year old; are they going to be issuing a new report in July? The frequency of the reports should be mandated annual.
Well they were saying it should but you have dismissed it
Their current report is nothing more than a puff piece
So why bother?
Also they are building a data centre in one of the most carbon free places on the planet which is exactly what we want but Lemmy is still downvoting for some reason...
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AI companies should release environmental impact, commit to clean energy, says UN chief | Spyke
Or, you know, get inspected routinely, and shut down over violations. Not fines, bribes, and blind eyes.
Like this? https://mistral.ai/news/our-contribution-to-a-global-environmental-standard-for-ai/
Disclosure is step 1. Actually not using fossil fuels is step 2.
like this?
EcoDataCenter will design, build and operate the underlying infrastructure in Sweden, leveraging renewable energy, advanced cooling technologies and deep expertise in high-density AI data centres
“Together with Mistral AI, we are building high-performance AI infrastructure on Swedish soil – with sustainability, resilience and European strategic autonomy at its core
https://dcnnmagazine.com/business/mistral-ai-and-ecodatacenter-to-build-data-centre-in-sweden/
Gotta love Lemmy
Lemmy: The data centres are stealing all our power and destroying the planet 😡
Mistral builds a data centre in a 100% carbon free place
Lemmy: 😡(confused)
Almost. They don't actually show that the renewables they're using would not have been built anyways and that they're not displacing decarbonization as a result. Or that the wind and solar are supplied at the same time and place as the data center.
Doing this stuff well takes keeping track of a lot of moving parts.
What :D
This is exactly where you want to build data centres??
Is it like that year-round, or seasonally? Does the new load replace exports that displace fossil fuels in adjacent region?
This is a good start, but I'd like to see a industry-standard reporting structure & enforce auditing by a non-affiliated third party.
It doesn't go into detail regarding energy & water sources for their data centres, the construction & impact of those data centres (if applicable), nor how they're looking to reduce their environmental footprint. In fact, it clearly states their impact grows the larger the model gets (so their impact is only going to get worse), and their primary method of reduction was user education.
They've provided no reduction goals for themselves, which could include seeking renewable energy sources, water reduction, software optimisation, etc etc. They've also not mentioned their obsolescence planning - what impact equipment life cycling will incur, or how they're planning to reduce those impacts (e.g. disposal, frequency, etc).
The report downplays the generation costs, comparing it to a radish & video streaming. It omits the average tokens consumed per request, and should be sharing individual statistics for both text, image, video, and audio generation categories. These should be compared against industry standards (both AI & Non-AI).
This is also nearly a year old; are they going to be issuing a new report in July? The frequency of the reports should be mandated annual.
Their current report is nothing more than a puff piece to say they're "environmentally conscious" and "transparent", without actually being transparent.
Well they were saying it should but you have dismissed it
So why bother?
Also they are building a data centre in one of the most carbon free places on the planet which is exactly what we want but Lemmy is still downvoting for some reason...