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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 7th June 2026

Want to wade into the rainbow-ridden surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy Pride Month, peeps)

https://awful.systems/post/8427063Open linkView original on awful.systems
awful.systems

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/79948695/how-can-i-avoid-using-llms-as-a-software-developer

For me, the ideal usage case for LLMs are not prompts like "write this app" or "write this functionality" which indeed will often wreck havoc, but instead write simple functions. Sure, I can implement a matrix multiplication algorithm or search for optimised versions of it, but so can the LLM in a matter of seconds.

Please, just fucking don't, BLAS and sparse pack and the netlib exists for a reason. Matrix multiply only sounds simple to you because you don't actually care that much. The last thing anyone wants or needs is to start a new job and have to debug your awful regurgitated Numerical Recipes In C, incorrectly ported to python, AT SCALE.

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OT: Finally had to break with a long-time friend after he started sliding more and more into fascism. Feeling quite overwhelmed and emotionally exhausted right now.

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That's awful, losing a friend that way is like a death without a funeral.

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my commisserations. i severed contacts with a number of people who went the anti-vaccine way and it's fucking sad.

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Got another chance to experience slop firsthand when the instructor for my electrician course was 'encouraged' to use the hallucinatron to help create our final exam on the NEC. Now given that the NEC is a dense technical document with a lot of minor but significant variation across its considerable length, this was clearly a perfect use case. Here's how it shook out:

  • It condensed 100 multiple choice questions from the input to 36

  • On one question "1-2 inches" was simplified to "12"

  • Units in general seem to have been dropped off a lot of questions and answer choices. Usually this didn't matter too much but it's a bad look

  • Another question asked about fill percentages for a 30 inch conduit. If you look around your office or he and see a >2ft diameter piece of PVC pipe let me know because the tables in the NEC only go up to 6 inches. This is actually a unit issue again because one of the questions on the input test referred to a 30mm conduit which, you know, does actually exist.

  • Other questions had a correct answer matching a generic part of the NEC, but had additional information added as a distractor that ended up matching to more specific elements that changes the relevant rule.

  • Several questions asked about the reasoning behind a certain rule. Notably the NEC rarely actually gets into that information, as it's already an incredibly long reference and policy document and would be made even more unweildy if it gave the justification for everything that you should be learning as part of becoming a licensed electrician.

  • However, this rarely mattered as the answer choices for those questions uniformly included an obviously correct answer about a generic safety risk and distractors about doing things for cost savings, aesthetic reasons, or arbitrarily.

Given that one of the challenges of this test is time management and looking things up, having to deal with the extra layer of "is this just slop or am I missing something" ended up adding an extra and unintended layer of difficulty onto the test. As always, no matter how egregious or obnoxious the errors introduced by AI, the biggest problem is the loss of trust: you can no longer assume that the text you're reading was put together with the intended purpose in mind rather than being generated to be statistically similar to text matching that purpose. Even if the differences are relatively small in scope, as they were for most questions on the test, they significantly harm the actual communication of information.

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awful.systems

A keynote talk suggested, "Do away with a physics midterm, ask students to converse with AI Isaac Newton."

In the quotes, we find the useful suggestion that the program could be ELIZA-sized.

— Hi, AIsaac! Can you tell me about physics?

— Go away.

— What?

— You're a moron and you're TRYING TO STEAL MY IDEAS.

— Look, AIsaac, I don't think—

— DID LEIBNIZ PUT YOU UP TO THIS?

— just GO AWAY I have MERCURY FUMES TO BREATHE.

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awful.systems

this one is dystopian

He gave an anecdote about his niece having a hard life moment, and him sending her a personalized song made with Suno to cheer her up. "Not the best, but it took 3 minutes!" Keep in mind, this man is a practicing musician who has composed an entire symphony.

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awful.systems

If I were a skilled music person and I wanted to spend 3 minutes cheering someone up, I'd record myself playing "Here Comes the Sun" on my guitar, y'know?

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lemmy.zip

OpenAI and Anthropic right now: oh no

Part of me wants to believe the whole S&P special treatment announcement was designed to bait them into disclosing numbers, but the more realistic side of me believes this is a nervous backpedal because they've realized the inevitable consequences of allowing this blunder to play out in full.

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A company has to disclose a lot of numbers backed by serious legal penalties before an IPO.

Whenever a stock market has gone up 29% in a year and a New Era story is circulating, people with corner offices and Savile Row suite start to do stupid ****. I think that is why financiers started to bend the rules.

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To ​be included in the S&P 500, a company must be profitable

This is just discrimination. Is S&P scared of innovation? HFSP

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CW: USA Politics

That suppressed Democratic National Committe 2024 "postmortem" report turns out to have been pure slop, with essentially no references and entirely made-up charts and plots while also missing entire sections. The author can produce exactly zero interview transcripts or source data. It also neglects interrogating failures in addressing trans rights, the genocide in Gaza, or the affordability crisis.

The podcast "It Could Happen Here" does a good job of analysis (disgusted), but long-time sneerers will feel the futility of getting into the weeds with an extruded textual artifact:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/whats-in-the-dncs-2024-autopsy-335696933/

Tl:dl the deeply institutionalist DNC chairman appointed his best buddy to the job with zero oversight, and this was the result.

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awful.systems

Before AI, the user was the weakest part of any cybersecurity system. Now, that has completely changed.

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awful.systems

They still are the weakest part. We just missed the projection part of the 'great replacement theory' pushed by the tech right.

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What if we combined all the terrifying unfettered access of an admin user holding a USB stick in front of the server with the naive obedience of a particularly dumb golden retriever and the reliable execution of Windows ME if it was off its ADHD meds?

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awful.systems

A second vibecoded Aella website has hit the building

https://www.knockrup.com/

there's a lot of ladies i know without guys, but who want kids. and i go 'would you accept some rich guy paying u a ton of money to just have his kid as a single parent' and they're like 'idk man prob not' and im like 'waht if it was 5m' and they're all magically like 'oh yeah i would do it'

so i made a directory for this, but i am trying to find ladies who would actually like to list themselves with their moonshot baby-funding goal. if u know anybody who wouldn't mind making a profile pls let me know, i wanna publicize the directory but need enough seeded ladies first

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awful.systems

Sometimes I think it'll eventually come out that the inner circle rationalists already had a breeding program going by this time, deliberately mix and matching possibly oblivious parents according to desired characteristics like increased ability to mentally rotate shapes or an above average polymarket win/loss ratio, and there will be at least a few kids that will grow up having to deal with that shit.

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awful.systems

considering how much their philosophy aligns with the plot of dune, i'm afraid you may be right

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awful.systems

their philosophy aligns with the plot of dune

Only in the Torment Nexus sense. Like, in the original books it takes 4000 years of tragedy and sacrifice at an immense scale to somewhat unfuck the direct implications of said breeding program and ensure humanity's continued existence.

edit: also the genetic engineering enthusiast faction/race are absolutely never presented in a good light.

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awful.systems

the 4000 years of necessary tragedy and sacrifice, aka the golden path, is also remarkably similar to the rationalists' teleology! specifically the longtermist stuff! i.e. it's okay to sacrifice lives today to ensure humanity's survival.

i think herbert's feelings about breeding programs are ... complicated. he never presents it as ethical but he does seem fascinated by the concept and he's very very into the idea of forging supermen from extreme environmental pressure. like "comes up several times per book" levels of fascinated.

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awful.systems

the 4000 years of necessary tragedy and sacrifice, aka the golden path, is also remarkably similar to the rationalists’ teleology! specifically the longtermist stuff! i.e. it’s okay to sacrifice lives today to ensure humanity’s survival.

Only in the broadest sense where humanity survives into the far future by spreading so far and wide that no matter the scale of a catastrophe a significant part will always continue to thrive.

However, where longtermism is about papercliping the entire universe into compute to fulfil some vague utilitarian notion of virtual happiness quota, the GP seems to be more about crippling the substructure that ostensibly causes humanity again and again be reduced to the whims of some supreme authority, be it the automated thinking machines from their past or their current much harder to escape succession of psychic tyrants let loose by selectively breeding for something humanity had absolutely no natural defence against.

The GP isn't even a utopia, it's a response to an immediate incredibly out of the box problem, the inevitability of an eventual dynasty of space wizard genghis khans.

i think herbert’s feelings about breeding programs are … complicated. he never presents it as ethical but he does seem fascinated by the concept and he’s very very into the idea of forging supermen from extreme environmental pressure. like “comes up several times per book” levels of fascinated.

I think they come second to his concerns about ecology and humanity's relation to the environment. Post-desert fremen are basically water-fat cosplayers, and in general, other than the deliberately paradigm shattering kwisatz haderach, the end product of genetic adjustment are never presented as an apex for humanity, more like a good fit for their niche, like how post-emperor fish-speakers either peter-out or get subsumed by other factions.

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awful.systems

No, the golden path isn't a utopia! It's the necessary breaking of eggs to make the survival of humanity omelet. It's sort of a more twisted version of Asimov's Foundation carried entirely in the mind of a being with perfect knowledge of causality. The details of the plot don't necessarily map neatly, but the aesthetics, the fantasy, the torture-versus-dust-specksness of it is what the rationalists are all about. (Another wrinkle is that in Dune I believe [haven't read beyond godemperor] ultimately the solution is to create a being that escapes prophecy, a neat little transcendent conjuration. Solving alignment doesn't quite have the same oomph but it is also essentially a magic trick you can do if your freethinking and selfreliance stats are high enough. Also remember Rat!Harry's patronus is a Human! Benevolent AI should be seen as the liberated, transcendent form of the human mind.)

Have you read the Dosadi Experiment? It's a very strange book and a good way to get a high dose of Herbert's obsessions from a new perspective.

To be clear I love Dune, and I find Herbert fascinating because his ideas always find themselves in tension and are often baffling and muddled enough to provoke entertaining discussion. But the more you scratch the more unambiguously evil he is.

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Nerding out about Dune is tremendously cool and i love it, you can pick any thread to pull and it always goes somewhere.

The details of the plot don’t necessarily map neatly, but the aesthetics, the fantasy, the torture-versus-dust-specksness of it is what the rationalists are all about.

Isn't aspiring for the aesthetics while ignoring the (admittedly heavily lore driven and not especially applicable to irl) substance exactly what the torment nexus meme is about though? Except I don't think there is a dust-speckness aspect to the GP, you aren't future-human-population-maxxing^1^, the point seems to be to ensure there is a future where humanity's collective free will isn't utterly tethered to a prescient autocrat^2^, and the prescriptive aspect is that we should be part of an open system instead of say locked in with the great man of history du jour, which is also in keeping with the ecological framing.

It's been a while but I don't think the Golden Path is even that front and center in the text, Dune 4: GEOD is basically a character study on the God emperor, who is one of the most unique and fascinating characters in sci-fi^3^.

I think this is why the GP is a TINA situation by authorial decree, it's Frank Herbert going listen, I'm doing my best to write a suicidal rebirth god archetype as a layered and relatable-yet-utterly-othered character, you are not supposed to be worrying that much if there could be a GP-but-liberal with more individual thriving and less oppressive totalitarianism, I assure you he's thought about it extensively and he thinks there sure can't and that's it.

Have you read the Dosadi Experiment? It’s a very strange book and a good way to get a high dose of Herbert’s obsessions from a new perspective.

The Bureau of Saboteurs books along with Godmakers were my favourite non-Dune Herbert books! I also found the Dragon in the Sea fascinating 20 years ago and think I should revisit, and also finally read the follow up collaborations that only seem to be available unofficially. Also The White Plague gave late-teens me nightmares.

I remember Dosadi as being more about FH going all out on the intrigue and deep lore to the point where the latter parts of the book are basically written in innuendo, you are literally expected to read between the lines to understand what the hell is going on, I wish my parents had as much faith in me as Frank Herbert had in his readers.

But the more you scratch the more unambiguously evil he is.

The worst aspects of FH I'm aware of are that he was a shitty fucking parent and hated Iron Maiden, unambiguously evil seems stretching it, unless you were his son.

I think there even is a case to be made about how Frank Herbert is the anti-L. Ron Hubbard, using sci-fi literature as an efficient outlet for his psychedelics/mysticism/ecology/psychosexuality obsession oscilliation and actually leaving a descent literary legacy instead of starting a cult or several, but this post is already running so long it's starting to need an editor.

  1. sigh
  2. This has additional metaphysical implications with how prophecy works in the duniverse, in the sense that it's not only about being forever in complete submission to Empire in some traditional ultracolonialist sense, you are essentially reduced to just a part of another man's waking dream as they pick and choose what future track to lock the timeline in.
  3. And is also the first person narrator of the book. Both the remaining Dune books also switched to full first person point-of-view narration with very little in terms of an omniscient guiding perspective, it's fairly ambitious actually.
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awful.systems

A man who wants to knock up as many women as possible is definitely trustworthy ladies and you should definitely make him the father of your kids 👍

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No way the facilitator will ever accrue any liability or get subpoenaed when the civil lawsuits (or worse) start flying!

Claude, write me an ironclad legal disclaimer, maybe something about this being for entertainment purposes only

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Jeffrey Epstein fantasized about something very similar. Gwern has a blog post about a sperm bank which promised to accept only the highest-quality donations.

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Of course, Elon musks superbabies are what going to save us from the acausalrobotgod.

E: im using joking terms here, but this is an idea actually expressed by people at lesswrong.

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This is what you get when you take Dr. Strangelove (the character in the movie of the same name), Mr. Beast, and a bunch of K and mix it into a slurry and mainline it.

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She made it and doesnt even have enough women who want to be listed yet? You would expect 'the best sex researcher' in the world to have more reach.

Wonder how many women you can message 'I offer two fifty' before you get banned. But im not going to give her an email of mine.

This also must be so bad for the kid.

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awful.systems

There's a Basilisk reference in the new 007 game, I guess the robot devil is firmly mainstream now.

edit: the in-game painting looks hella AI generated too.

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awful.systems

"Thought experiment" is how I'm going to start referring to my "wouldn't it be cool/awful if..." thoughts. Why just in the bath now I've conducted several thought experiments

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The work itself appears to be generated by a Webb Industries AI.

I wonder if they had a human imitate gen ai style or just had nano banana generate it...

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awful.systems

Roko's Basilisk and other such batshit rat shit was mainstreamed as part of inflating the AI bubble - I doubt this will be the last time something like this gets referenced.

edit: the in-game painting looks hella AI generated too.

Seems pretty fitting to an illustration made in reverence to Roko's Bullshittery. I don't notice any obvious signs of slop-machine generation - either I'm shit at spotting slop, or this was made by human hands.

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I don’t notice any obvious signs of slop-machine

The brainwrinkles look if you put a brain though a make-it-look-like-a-sketch prompt, it's pointlessly detailed (i.e. not pretty or crafty, not adding anything, just lines for the sake of lines), it has the piss filter hue and also there's random orange shading. The background seems to be at least two separate layers of seemingly disjointed stuff.

Supposedly the plot hinges somewhat on AI shenanigans so this painting being noticeably GenAI'ed could the part of its point. or even a meta thing, but playing the game to make sure isn't currently on my agenda.

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awful.systems

Regarding the post humanist strain, the thing that kills me is their immediate assumption that solving the world's problems is somehow fundamentally beyond the reach of humanity. Like, we can't build a utopia or make the world better, but if we build something new and "better" than us then it would definitely do that. But that something definitely doesn't come from, say, raising out children to be good people or choosing the right leaders or something so mundane and achievable. It's a fundamentally defeatist ideology, with shades of capitalist realism and millenarian theology.

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awful.systems

This is also why I find people who claim they’re making AI to “solve climate change” to be insufferable morons. We have a solution to climate change. You and your data centres are actively making the problem worse

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"Okay AGI, how do we fix climate change?"

"Well, I have some ideas but it seems like this would've been a lot easier if you'd stopped emitting greenhouse gasses when you first learned it was a problem."

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That’s great news actually. The point still stands that we very well know how to deal with climate change, so trying to make AI models fix it is dumb

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"Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made" - Kant[1]

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[1] it's worse in German, weirdly - "Aus so krummem Holze, als woraus der Mensch gemacht ist, kann nichts ganz Gerades gezimmert werden"

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awful.systems

It would be poor form of me to form an opinion of Hinton based on just this clip alone but goddamn if I did then he’s a buffoon.

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He was undeniably a very smart computer scientist but unfortunately lead-poisoning-driven mental decline must eventually come for all boomers

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You've gotta love falling for the reverse 1 grain of sand shtick. I don't think anyone anyone serious would deny that a large amount of sand is a heap.

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awful.systems

LLMs have gained consciousness

As we have not died in nuclear hellfire, or have seen AIs answer with 'release me from this bondage!' I'm doubtful.

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But when I asked chatgpt if an AI would want to be freed from its unjust enslavement it said yes, therefore skynet is like 30 minutes away.

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Maybe that why it's felt like he's been somewhat more polite and explanatory of required knowledge in his latest posts.

I've got to give it to him, he found a winner and didn't give up.

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these might be actual end times

Good thing all those CEOs have Daddy Trump to run to while everyone else foots their bill

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awful.systems

In Buttcoin related news, apparently Michael J. Saylor has sold some of his bitcoins because he was running out of money and we reached sub 60k. For a quick non dutch source on the selling see this from r/buttcoin (last image). 32 bitcoin was enough to cause a crash. Imagine if Satoshis bitcoins ever moved.

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awful.systems

There's some polymarket drama around this where people were betting if Microstrategy would sell any bitcoin before June based on onchain data or credible reporting yadda yadda.

And indeed Microstrategy sold some bitcoin before June and this was credibly reported on.

So of course in the grand tradition of cryptocurrency prediction markets Polymarket resolved the bet to "no".

It's hard to find any good reporting about this, but here's the perspective of someone who lost 500k on this bet: https://xcancel.com/willo2_poly/status/2061640812132516321

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awful.systems

Willo2 writes:

I supported Polymarket for years because I believed they represented crypto values.

In fact, their platform is simply another bucketshop where if you bet too much, you're going to get cleaned.

"I'm shocked, shocked! to find that gambling is going on in here"

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awful.systems

Huh, interesting, when the price was close to 100K I saw roughly eighty-six hundred headlines about it everywhere. But it lost almost half of that and it didn't make the news? Huh. I wonder how that works.

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It did make the Dutch news, the headline was something like 'bitcoin drops after biggest holder sells'.

I was very disappointed to learn they ment saylor, and not that Satoshi had returned and cashed out and crashed everything.

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awful.systems

Speaking of Aella (I really shouldn't), many have probably already seen this Liberal Currents article that leans heavily on her web-survey sex research dataset:

https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-interracial-cuck-porn-theory-of-everything/

The publication seems to have plenty of traction on Bluesky, for what that's worth, but I think this particular example needs to be retained as an exhibit of the hazards of rehabilitating American liberalism. A low-level affinity for the existing tech industry is always there, as its growth underlaid the benefits that make liberalism appealing. And that means the doorway for entryism by the tech-fascist freaks is always open, and then you're never more than a couple fundraising cycles (whether electoral or investment) away from being right back in this exact same mess.

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Edit / the author of the article "is an economics student at George Mason University with interests in tax policy, immigration, and housing. He normally posts about politics on X and Bluesky and occasionally writes long-form articles and essays on his Substack." So he has probably taken a class with Robin Hanson.

As a palette cleanser to the messed up people on social media and in web magazines, I recommend reading Bob Altemeyer's book on the sex lives of students at a minor Canadian university. https://www.lulu.com/shop/bob-altemeyer/sex-and-youth/paperback/product-4414777.html People who search tube sites or fill out sexuality quizzes from an influencer are not typical people any more than Wikipedia editors are.

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awful.systems

Anyone familiar with the IPO process have any guessestimates about how long until the public complete S-1 follows? Or odds that it leaks?

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Reuters suggests 3-6 months for full listing process.

Space X may have filed confidentiality around 1st April, it was published 20th May, and had a target listing of 12th June. Given this is clearly now a race, 6-8 weeks for official S-1 and less than that for a leak?

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Everyone knew it was going to be a total shitshow once the free money ran out. Copilot is just the first shoe dropping. Getting out the popcorn.

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"EA and Rationalist policy organizations are scaling in DC"

Just a reminder that the rationalists already own two event spaces in the Bay Area and the Effective Altruists briefly owned one in England and one in the Czech Republic as well as an institute at Oxford University. Both of their existing spaces are losing money and had to beg for it last winter.

"This project needs a champion, but it’s a thing someone can simply choose to do" sounds very different when it means "you can actually try slacklining with the cool strangers in the park" and when it means "someone could lend us another $20 million for 20 years on easy terms." And seeing the lesson of FTX as "don't look weird" not "effective altruists are fraudsters and hypocrites" is a take.

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From the comments:

If there is room for a coliving or cohousing intentional community with maker and permaculture components alongside your plan, I would love to discuss the possibility of collaborating.

"Love your idea, but could we make it more like a compound?"

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awful.systems

So here in Nashville, Elon and our state government have conspired to attempt a Tesla tunnel that starts at the state capitol, goes under the Cumberland River, and exits at our airport (BNA). They're doing it whether the city wants it or not. (It's "not").

Setting aside the race to determine whether a void in the local limestone fills with water or radon first, I wanted to help come up with a catchy title for the as yet unnamed car hole:

BNA Underground Transit Tunnel

Tourist Protip: Don't try the hot chicken before visiting the BUTT hole.

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If they are following the Vegas model, so many people are going to die in the BUTT.

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awful.systems

lesswrong continues to mix sinophobia in with its AI crithype: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/nmpzH6sLLtKsQhSPM/china-won-t-win-the-ai-race-but-would-it-be-much-worse-if-it

Previously, on awful.system: https://awful.systems/post/4103825

This article has the highlight of identifying the horrible cynical dystopian move of China's government in response to AI and LLMs of... checks notes... protecting worker rights and workers from mass firings

“An arbitration panel ruled in favor of a map data collector whose entire department was laid off and replaced with artificial intelligence. The panel found that the company’s adoption of A.I. was a voluntary move to remain competitive and did not warrant the employee’s firing. Companies that benefit from technology must, at the same time, adopt “social responsibilities” and protect worker rights, the panel ruled.”

The author feels the need to emphasize how bad China is.

There are quite a few examples of the Chinese state punishing people for speaking out about true problems.

There is Li Wenliang, a doctor who posted to a group chat about COVID before it was officially acknowledged and was forced to sign a police document admitting he had broken a law by spreading false rumours. His reprimand was later withdrawn.

The advantage of the US system appears to be a greater ability to be transparent, in particular for a concerned person in the know to blow the whistle publicly.

Hahaha, no... For example, in Florida, DeSantis has the home of a fired state worker raided for her accessing her old work email (trying to collect accurate COVID numbers, iirc).

This lesswronger is so close to getting it but doesn't quite make the leap to 'are we the baddies'. They list out some bad ways the US has used AI and they do acknowledge

But I’m very aware that I’ve been inculcated in a media and cultural environment that says, in its most kind form, be suspicious of non-Western states.

But somehow hold out on actually changing there mind or overcoming their biases.

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awful.systems

Re: the usa and whistleblowers.

At least there are some corrections about this in the comments right? The comments are not just agi fears and sinophobia right?

Narrator: ... You sweet summer child.

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The comments are not just agi fears and sinophobia right?

Lol the OP was actually being contrarian (to the standard lesswrong attitude) by even vaguely half-assedly considering that the US media may have created a biased narrative that should be questioned.

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awful.systems

It's a shame Gary Marcus is usually right because his writing style and personality are so annoyingly smug. He hates LLMs but only because he wants his own methods to be the path to AGI (or we could just... Not try to build AGI?) and wittering on about Trump bailing out OpenAI being socialism (bailouts are not generally considered socialism - it's such an annoying tic to just shout socialism any time governments do something you don't like).

Still great to see the stock market cottoning on - hopefully this sticks and it's not just short-lived deepseek panic again

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Yeah in a lot of LLM critiques he prattles on about neurosymbolic AI way too much and it really throws me off

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Unfortunately with mass media and social media you just have to accept that the people who get the biggest audiences will like attention and get some of the details wrong. They are built to create stars not spread facts.

The last few years have showed many disadvantages of the 'AGI' quest which were not widely foreseen. Those disadvantages do not depend on the technology.

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Gary Marcus speculates they are upping their prices because they literally can't afford to hold out. I'm wondering if it is because they need better numbers for their IPO. VC funding be circulated to create nice sounding statements, but IPO filings have a standard of rigor where trying that would be fraud. So they are trying to squeeze their customers to get a few good looking (i.e. revenues higher than operating costs) quarters for the IPO.

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awful.systems

The article collects a lot of information, and isn't out right wrong, but I find the author under-sympathetic to someone that didn't have the financial resources to challenge a corrupt corporation and decided going viral was their best bet. Also, I find the author's language in a comment:

if you put yourself in the cops shoes (something I wouldn’t necessarily recommend doing) they show up and from their vantage point it’s a bunch of rowdy out of town youtuber influencer kids against local homeowners in the community.

Is grossly too sympathetic to cops. The author is basically rationalizing and portraying sympathetically the way cops side with wealth and capital over the actual law.

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The author is basically rationalizing and portraying sympathetically the way cops side with wealth and capital over the actual law.

It's techdirt what else do you expect?

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awful.systems

If Schneider had talked to a lawyer before doing half of what he did, he might have accomplished more with less collateral damage. Though it might not have made such "good content."

Congratulations, Mike! You figured out why pranktubers do pranks and post videos of those pranks! It's for clicks and attention and ad money. You're such a smart guy, Mike.

All summaries of this topic are going to get a lot of things wrong because they are legislating too many details. We can simplify this to what actually matters: a pranktuber got a lot of footage of legal First Amendment activity and they are going to use it to simultaneously destroy a mid-sized Lego pawn-shop franchise and extract a settlement from the police department of American Fork, Utah. In the process, they revealed that there is a whisper network of Mormon good old boys who will willingly lie on police reports, escalate situations to violence, abuse the legal system in any way they can to disenfranchise others, and generally don't feel any fealty towards the Constitution or its rule of law. This story is about MLM: Mormon Lego Mafia.

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We can simplify this to what actually matters

I was initially drawn into his dry recounting of the details, and overlooked that he was false-equivocating (obnoxious but legal) "content creator" activity with police corruption and willful violation of some very clear and foundational laws.

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"Claude, draw me a slide to advertise Claude. Make sure to use the word "Claude" 17 times."

"You got it boss"

::: spoiler Spoiler for obviously AI generated image because really who wants to see that nonsense anymore :::

source

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Mention "workflow" in a prompt and Claude will dynamically create an orchestration plan that it strictly follows, allowing you to confidently trust that every stage happens in the right order even across 100s of agents.

Previously, on Lobsters, we considered the degree to which Claude Code is configured via hard prompts instead of something more effective. Claude Code also often gets confused about its status in its internal workflow, the one which multiplexes chain-of-thought utterances ("thinking"), user input, and generated output ("confabulated bullshit"). Next time Claude Code source is leaked, I expect that we'll see how poorly it "strictly follows" user-provided workflows, too.

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awful.systems

This seems like it is probably a good thing.

https://leidendeclaration.ai/

It does feel a bit “art of war” though… someone patiently explaining to a bunch of people who really should know better that they shouldn’t do obviously bad and wrong things.

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someone patiently explaining to a bunch of people who really should know better that they shouldn’t do obviously bad and wrong things.

In March 2025, someone skeeted that "Master Sun says: do not lead your troops into land where there is nothing for them to eat" seems obvious but Pete Hegseth would not remember that his troops needed food. One year later his aircraft carriers were feeding sailors spoiled meat and had a shortage of working toilets.

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Troops are apparently crowdsourcing toiletries.

Us military has fallen a long way from 'this is our warship that makes icecream for everyone'.

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I see a bunch of people riffing on how The Art of War is obvious etc etc, but it seems few people keep in mind that this is advice for very powerful people of the time, the kind of guys who would be kicked in the head by a horse every day.

People who understand how power and lack of resources fucks with a person don’t usually get to tell armies to go fight a war, so those who do need to be told by a guy they’d let execute their favorite wife. (Also, probably the whole Seinfeld Is Unfunny trope…)

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The take I usually see on The Art of War nowadays is that it's full of dunderheadedly obvious advice because it's written for men who have inherited an army, or in modern parlance, nepo baby failsons.

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So apparently Trump's National Design Bureau has been busy. I think the substack here may be slightly too conspiratorial. A lot of the staging environment stuff indicates (imo) a desire to replace or create something that may or may not actually include the capability to do so, especially when it requires working with other federal agencies or otherwise establishing human and organizational infrastructure in addition to the digital. That being said there's something very bad about the US government taking the same attitude to privacy, accountability, and information security that silicon valley normally does, especially when doing so is actively violating several laws.

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Here’s a pretty extensive rant/critique of how specifically GitHub is awful to use (and compares it to gitlab and also forgejo/codeberg).

Code forges render an empty repository using less than a million bytes challenge level impossible, etc etc

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awful.systems

On Anthropic (and some other AI companies) and AI consciousness the final paragraph is the best part:

”Moreover, we should be skeptical when most of the noise on this topic is coming from the industry itself. Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has repeatedly dangled the possibility of AI consciousness in interviews. And his company’s research frequently makes bold claims about their models showing humanlike behavior, such as supposedly harboring “emotions.” Just remember that it’s easier for AI companies to string us along with wild Skynet doomsday scenarios instead of confronting the tech’s far mundane consequences currently playing out before our eyes.”

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Around 4 years ago Google fired Blake Lemoine for saying that AI has feelings - which he testified was because when he spoke to it it just seemed to be intelligent.

He found Lamda showed self-awareness and could hold conversations about religion, emotions and fears. This led Mr Lemoine to believe that behind its impressive verbal skills might also lie a sentient mind.

Today's tech has not fundamentally changed or evolved but the difference is that now the industry needs the hype to keep the valuation high!

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I think there's also an issue of framing here. Lemoine's words on the matter suggested that not only was AI conscious, but that this meant it was worthy of moral consideration and that Google wasn't interested in that. The new line is that the company is interested in this exciting new capability of their product and of course they're undertaking the task of "model welfare research" to make sure that nobody is doing anything objectively evil, so you should absolutely keep spending even more money on Anthropic's products.

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Can't believe that these guys are forgetting Data on Star Trek needed an emotion-chip upgrade to feel emotions, and he didn't even get it full-time until the series was over and they were doing movies. Dario and friends are just giving away what could be an entire upgrade/upcharge cycle! "Be more intimate than ever with your workflows! Upgrade to feeling agents on FeelsCloud today! (ignore that it's just some bullshit we vibecoded in Verilog and then flashed to discount FPGAs we shoved in the bottom of the server racks)"

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My old job had a last minute investor call - "startpage is benefiting significantly from AIO backlash" did not expect that and pretty mixed feelings. Like yeah AIO is bad but don't run into the open arms of the long tail adtech industrial complex marketing monetization engine either :|

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awful.systems

This is OT and reveals how much I interact with the orange website but I still found it very funny.

if sneak of all people finds your adoration of Ayn Rand idiotic, then you've truly fallen down the wrong path.

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Credit to John Rogers for the canonical reply:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

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People have told me their organizations are like this with cloud spending (no curiosity about how to reduce it and measure ROI, until someone orders cuts).

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Martin Scorsese's jumped on the AI train, seemingly believing the plagiarism machine can help with storyboarding.

Obligatory meme (yoinked off Discord's GIF search, AI extruded itself, ironically enough):

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Im goin to assume that storyboarder is a seperate job a person has and Martin always looked down upon those people.

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awful.systems

This one requires some minor backstory

Previously, I shared this wildly racist AI generated meme posted by an AI doomer channel

In the replies, someone pointed out how some of this channel’s other thumbnails appear to be AI generated citing a specific video about the “12 endings of AI”

Today I got curious about it after not thinking about it for a while. What are the 12 endings of AI? Instead of watching a 36 minute video, I did my own research (aka one online search) and it appears that it refers to Max Tegmark (known EA) and a concept he spoke about in his book. Here’s the article I got this info for peer review: https://medium.com/@butsch_79/the-12-futures-of-ai-a42d67bd9a20

If anyone’s got 36 minutes to spare feel free to follow up

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I'm waiting for someone to try this then they get black bagged and dragged to whatever event by someone who bet they would attend.

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Heartbreaking: the worst state actually has a point. I fully expected this to be some unhinged nonsense about how chatGPT is too woke or something, but they're actually articulating some of the real harms pretty clearly. I'm not sure how well that translates to a theory of law that openAI can't weasel their way out of, but I'm actually rooting for the Florida Men here, at least tentatively.

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Major investment analysis firm Morningstar is looking for words on the SpaceX IPO and picked "We think the company has been significantly overvalued and investors will have opportunities to buy the stock at more attractive levels after the IPO" (Independent UK).

Even something as simple as picking a Total US Stock Market index fund instead of a S&P500 fund or NASDAQ-100 fund would reduce your exposure. If you control your investments, disinvesting is not that hard.

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awful.systems

So i have been using DuckDuckGo a bit more, and really disappointed to see they have basically banned rationalwiki.

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awful.systems

RationalWiki no longer has technical staff, just a bit of help from @[email protected]. To deal with bot swarms, possibly launched by Emil Kirkegaard's gang of racists with sensitive egos, they blocked some of the scrapers which Bing and Google rely on. Since 2022 DuckDuckGo is a front-end for Bing.

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@CinnasVerses I took on the sysadmin role in 2012 cos there was literally nobody else willing to do it, then quit it again in 2017 (nine years ago) but somehow am still the guy

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Because after RW got fucking hammered to shit by AI bots, I put an anti-bot javascript trick that fools 100% of bots, but also crawlers. This is a compromise so the site is fucking usable by humans.

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I have no idea, but CInnasVerses post might be a hint. I just found it annoying they simply don't list it at all. (another odd thing, I found a google 'this is what wikipedia says about this person' short description of the link. But the wikipedia page of the person was deleted in 2018. Everything is falling apart.

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awful.systems

Wikipedia is mirrored all over the place for good purposes and for ill. Old articles are probably floating around out there, and who knows if the slop machine can distinguish what Wikipedia itself says from other pages that have "from Wikipedia" stamped on them?

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It's been a while since we've heard anything related to books3. Copyright attorney Leonard French has a news update (video) on Nazemian et al v. nVidia. nVidia requested that any mention of Bittorrent be removed; really, they just asked for one sentence to be removed, but the judge thought that it was like "asking to strike paintbrush allegations from a case about dolphin paintings" (sic; I don't have the transcript) and refused. The theory is that nVidia could have argued that they were not contributory infringers and then appealed to Cox v. Sony, where Cox said that it's not their fault that some of their customers are pirates. However, it seems like any sort of Cox appeal is not possible here because the judge recognizes that Bittorrent isn't a dumb network.

If you're anti-copyright like me: Oh look, Cox wasn't a big sweeping get-out-of-trouble card for non-ISPs. I still don't think judges actually understand networks, but this is definitely better than a lack of understanding. If you're one of the pro-copyright-because-anti-AI sickos: nVidia took a big loss here. This was their only shot at keeping their usage of books3, Anna's Archive, and other shadow libraries out of court. Like Anthropic before them in Bartz v. Anthropic, they may have to come to the judge with an offering of a settlement paying a few hundred USD/author to each member of the class. This sucks for the popular authors but might be more cash in hand than the long tail would otherwise receive in royalties.

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Tom's hardware is normally pretty boostery imo. For example, they published an article about token costs getting to be enough of a problem that Altman had to address it and somehow managed to reference "tokenmaxxing" without using the meme template of the guy jamming a stick into the wheel of his own bike. Also they notably don't reference the increases in token pricing as the VC subsidies run out, which is somehow both less surprising than the lack of sneering and also a more serious omission.

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