Prompt Assist Request: Extremely Tight Hairstyle
For the life of me, I cannot get this AI to understand. I tried with the simplest prompts, the most complex prompts, I just cant get it to do this. I am trying to achieve a slicked back, extremely tightly-pulled severe ponytail.
That scraped back look, like Ariana used to do, or that you see in fashion shoots now and then. If you just google "extremely tight ponytail," the world is full of examples, but apparently this AI has simply never heard of such a thing.
Not only can I not get it to do this, half the shots are from the back. Even if I specify a front view, it wants to show me a rear view of a ponytail. When it does show from the front (or even side, fine, I'll take it...) it always responds with some weird-ass poof at the scalp, and fucking flyaway hairs that frame the face. Every time with those flyaways, grrrr. I used to get this by adding a bunch of negatives, but now I just cant make it happen.
Trying for extremely tight, scraped back, gelled down, so-tight-it-hurts ponytail.
Help me Obi Wan...
“Front view of Woman with her hair slicked back. You see a ponytail raised up from behind her head.”
If that’s not tall enough, just add “tall” between ’a’ and ‘ponytail’, it should work. If this isn’t what you’re looking for then I am sorry.
Thank you for trying to help! I should have specified within the "Professional Photo" style, I need to retain a stylistic consistency across various images. When I do that with your prompt, none of them result in a tight style. Of 16, 6 of the images were from the back. Two more were from the front, but with the ponytail hanging in front of the face. All but one had quite loose hair and a fuck ton of flyaways Several had hair buns instead of ponytails, all also loose. Also, I need the woman to be looking into the camera, not downward, which most of the "Casual Photo" attempts yielded. I do appreciate your input though!
Also, this will be incorporated as a detail in a larger description... adding basically any detail to this is likely to wipe it out (color, length, facial features and expressions.) What I am looking for is specific word choices/descriptors that will consistently generate this style. I have used "slicked back" on its own (and repetitively within the prompt) over and over again to no avail.
I am not one to use a very short prompt and accept what is given... that is letting the AI imagine a thing. I want to imagine a thing myself, and have the AI depict it as close to I describe as possible. My prompts tend to be much longer, so complex specificity must be combined with brevity.
Thank you again though!
I can say this:
Try to describe the ponytail this way:
woman, long (or high or long-high) ponytail, raised (high) on top of head, slicked back with gel, pulled back tightly, stretches forehead, painful and tight
That should probably give you the result you actually want.
I gotcha, I work with huge prompts majority of the time. I was offering my first thoughts on a key token structure. Do you have a specific example you could share? I don’t mind doing some testing trying to achieve a better set of tokens to share.
Ahhh, I see someone needs help with the image generator getting to understand the prompt...I could help with that...I have found found my ways for getting the image generator to understand the prompt the way I want it too but I am too afraid of saying it here...and there is a reason why I keep my methods/techniques to myself...but I can show you the results you want with my method (once the image generators get back up and running).
I have never ever shared these with anyone. But since you do need help with getting the prompt to give you what you actually want, I'm willing to share it with you but not in public. I refuse to share it in public because god who knows what would if I released it released...But, anyways, my method doesn't work 100% of the time but for the most part, it gives me what I want.
I generated these with my prompt. I think this is what you were going for. Some of them were "cherry picked" as my way of prompting doesn't always work, but these were absolutely generated with my prompt, many of them actually (when I increased the numbers of images). I used some of the AI image model's (a random generator from Perchance) settings like guidance and art style (didn't really help much until I put real human being/photograph in the prompt...bruh moment). No flyaways, no buns :3
I can share a erm vanilla version of the prompt, should get the about the same result:
woman with long and tall ponytail that sits up high on top of head, the ponytail is pulled-back-tightly/slicked back with gel and stretches the forehead. The woman is a real human being. She is in a professional photograph. Avoid styles, increase guidance (try 12-15), and increase number of images (10 is okay, 20 is good, 30 is great, 40-60 is amazing!)