I like to point people to Mondragon as an example of how worker cooperatives can get big and compete with antidemocratic workplaces. I think we need that to build a sustainable society.

But Mondragon is in Spain, and there's a valid question why we don't see lots of large worker cooperatives if they're so great.

Obran is a cooperative holding company - they acquire and convert small/medium size businesses to be worker controlled. Not Mondragon yet but maybe in the future.