Strong economic growth absolves Brexit but not Truss
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Just a reminder of who owns this publication: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Montgomerie
This doesn't absolve Brexit, and I feel Liz Truss is a very convenient scapegoat for a Tory party who has been in power for 13 years.
If the ultras had been denied their hard AF brexit and we'd gone for the sensible Norway option of single market access but no political union, then there'd be zero brexit downsides.
So, any brexit cost is down to the Tories failed negotiations and failed implementation
Possibly, but that's entirely hypothetical. This is the Brexit we've got, and it was delivered by mostly the same people who were promoting it in the first place.
Imagine if someone remotely capable was in charge
That's what the Brexiteers I know say - the idea is good but the implementation was bad. It is rather a moot point because they would have to rely on a Tory government to "do Brexit right" and even if they were able to go for a Norway deal, which the hardliners would never have allowed, they have demonstrated a staggering lack of competence.
I voted for lexit, I wasn't expecting a right wing government to implement it
The replacement Agriculture Policy is better than the CAP at least
I was aware of numerous good left wing arguments for Brexit, especially the CAP, but I couldn't figure out how it would have been done. You'd have had to somehow get the right Labour government in against the headwinds of a Tory press arguing that voting conservative was the only way to get Brexit done.
The Brexiteers I know say this isn't the Brexit they voted for but it wasn't a complicated multiple-choice referendum, they voted Leave and left implementation in the hands of whatever idiot had clawed their way to the top of the Tory party.
I'm hoping for a hung parliament and the lib dems or SNP make proportional representation a price for power. That would be a massive change, along with replacing the House of Lords with a more democratic upper house.
I think having more representation would make policy better, rather than the current model where winner takes all and policies to suit a small section of the population.
EFTA was the best of both worlds, but no one wanted to listen.
Especially as the UK was a founding member of EFTA
I don't think the article makes that assertion. It simply says that the economy has recovered past pre pandemic levels but that Truss fucked it up badly. If anything it is merely stating that th economy is resilient. Not that it is fine and we're still pretty low down in the G7 figures perhaps lower than we ought to be because of Truss.
I would imagine the argument against what you're saying is that if Brexit was a disaster then the economy would be in free fall rapidly without signs of stopping and we'd be in a multi year recession by now. But that hasn't happened. In fact it's slightly up. Small numbers but up. Germany however is in recession. Who'd have thought that?
So maybe disaster is a bit hyperbolic too? If we want to take the pressure out of debate and all?
It's less fucked.
Germany is the worst performing G7 now.
Or any other Tory
The one thing you can say about the Tories, they are at least consistent.