A late hit is a hit after the play is dead. If he were to have slid, stood up, walked towards the sideline, and then been tackled out of no where, that still would’ve been a late hit and I don’t think anyone would say Clemson should get a 1st down for something that happened so long after the play.
So since there is a “too long”, you have to have something thay designates when is too long. And for this, it’s once the play is dead, that’s the description of the penalty.
And for this play, it was dead as soon as he began his slide, by rule. And as soon as the play was dead, it became Duke ball.
And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Committing a penalty after a play is over shouldnt change how that past play worked. Otherwise, it’s like the rule NFL used to have where excessive celebration after a TD could take away the score
Just thinking about the blocked fg earlier and the muffed punt just then -- are special teams just a little off in week one across the board? I always seem to notice things like that at the start of each season and then they become much more rare
Yeah, I mean think about it. These boys have done a grand total of zero full speed punts and kick returns, and those plays are notoriously physical. Add some rain tonight and it's not too surprising if you ask me.
Well, if it's any consolation, I hate the combination of the pointy serif D logo and the Gothic "D u k e". It's ass and screws up a simple classic aesthetic that should be very hard to screw up. Either go full baseball or no baseball.
I don't know how that kfc commercial made it past focus groups. I want to punch everyone in that commercial with considerable force. Any press is good press I guess?
I think most Clemson fans are used to it at this point. Another overrated preseason ranking for us. But I have hope that Riley will at least get our offense on the right path.
As someone who hasn't been following closely ... what the hell happened to Clemson? Specifically the offense? They went from championship caliber to wet noodle.
Clemson was so consistent for so long because, unlike most successful teams, they kept their staff together. But then one OC left, then the other, the DC all within a couple years and they started going down. Then DJ played like ass (which could’ve been coaching but still) and they bottomed out. They replaced a lot of coaches and are hoping to come back now.
We kept promoting internally despite continued failure on the field. We had Tony Elliott and then Brandon Streeter as our Offensive Coordinators. We also haven’t recruited well for OL due to hanging on to our OL coach. When Dabo fired Streeter and hired Riley (and our OL coach retired) the entire Clemson fan base rejoiced. Even if we take the L here we at least have some hope which we didn’t have under Elliott or Streeter.
Assuming this holds up, the Frogs thank you for taking half of the attention for the upcoming media cycle. TCU is now stuck hoping that Coach Prime was an evil genius all along.
That game traumatized a young g0d0fm15ch13f, we were still considered powerhouses at that time and I view it as the beginning of our downfall. Hope you manage to have fun in the remainder of your season (but I wouldn't mind if you keep losing)
I’ll have fun, I’m still glad we hired an outside OC. Plus, these games make us shed some Walmart fans which is always good. Maybe one of these losses will light a match under our team like the 2016 Pitt loss.
I mean, we have one data point for the season for Clem and it's losing by three scores. I don't really see how anyone can justify ranking them right now.
TD Shipley! That muffed punt by Calhoun might be the turning point of the game. Hopefully our offense doesn’t lose the little momentum that it has gained.
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At least Lemmy doesn’t have a bunch of obnoxious Ohio State and South Carolina fans (yet) to come into Clemson game threads when we’re losing 😅
(We also don’t have any obnoxious Clemson fans yet, thankfully.)
Uhhh… Fuck the Tigers?
Love,
An OSU fan
Ah yes, now it feels right. Glad it was tOSU before UofSC.
I've seen a good couple of cocks hangin round these parts. I'm a little surprised they're not being rambunctious in here
Me too! I guess they’re asleep or in the r/cfb game thread.
I cannot possibly understand the reasoning for that being a deadball foul.
Here’s how the logic makes sense to me:
A late hit is a hit after the play is dead. If he were to have slid, stood up, walked towards the sideline, and then been tackled out of no where, that still would’ve been a late hit and I don’t think anyone would say Clemson should get a 1st down for something that happened so long after the play.
So since there is a “too long”, you have to have something thay designates when is too long. And for this, it’s once the play is dead, that’s the description of the penalty.
And for this play, it was dead as soon as he began his slide, by rule. And as soon as the play was dead, it became Duke ball.
And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Committing a penalty after a play is over shouldnt change how that past play worked. Otherwise, it’s like the rule NFL used to have where excessive celebration after a TD could take away the score
I understand this, and I suppose it does make sense. But it did create a situation here where a team was essentially not penalized for targeting.
This is a good explanation. Thanks!
Football and legalistic ticky-tack rules... name a more classic combination.
Oh well, at least people can’t say we benefitted off of it.
Welcome to the 2022 hangover, Clemson. TCU is there to your left, and Florida to your right.
Thanks! ☺️ Maybe Riley won’t get poached this off-season!
Just thinking about the blocked fg earlier and the muffed punt just then -- are special teams just a little off in week one across the board? I always seem to notice things like that at the start of each season and then they become much more rare
Yeah, I mean think about it. These boys have done a grand total of zero full speed punts and kick returns, and those plays are notoriously physical. Add some rain tonight and it's not too surprising if you ask me.
Is losing to an unranked Duke enough to drop us out of the AP? I hope so.
That fumble inside the 1 yard line really broke Clemson's spirit, huh?
Don't worry, Dabo. Jesus just wanted Duke to win tonight and doesn't love you anymore.
Does Duke rush the field against us? I sure hope so.
Nice. Good win Duke!
Duke was 9-4 last year, but still, I was not expecting this
I, also, was not expecting this!
Well, if it's any consolation, I hate the combination of the pointy serif D logo and the Gothic "D u k e". It's ass and screws up a simple classic aesthetic that should be very hard to screw up. Either go full baseball or no baseball.
Love the gothic D U K E, but it does not work when you can see the classic D as well
It's mostly the head coach's sweatshirt and ballcap. They're each way too stylized to go together.
Another Clemson Choke
Am I doing it right?
CLEMPSUN
I know you're a tiger so this might sound like a downgrade but we've been using our poll numbers for the game threads fwiw.
Makes sense, I’ll update it. Thanks!
Fun fact: Clemson is 0-1 for the first time since September 4, 2021, when they lost to #1 UGA 10-3.
This will probably be the happiest that Steve Spurrier could ever be about a football game not involving a Florida win.
At this point it’s just funny. I prefer losing this way because I don’t have to say “what if?” I just know that we were bad.
I don't know how that kfc commercial made it past focus groups. I want to punch everyone in that commercial with considerable force. Any press is good press I guess?
QUIT WITH THE SHITTY ON FIELD INTERVIEWS
Clemson clearly did something to anger the football gods
Clemson looks really rough. Big oof.
I think most Clemson fans are used to it at this point. Another overrated preseason ranking for us. But I have hope that Riley will at least get our offense on the right path.
As someone who hasn't been following closely ... what the hell happened to Clemson? Specifically the offense? They went from championship caliber to wet noodle.
Clemson was so consistent for so long because, unlike most successful teams, they kept their staff together. But then one OC left, then the other, the DC all within a couple years and they started going down. Then DJ played like ass (which could’ve been coaching but still) and they bottomed out. They replaced a lot of coaches and are hoping to come back now.
At least I think that’s what happened.
We kept promoting internally despite continued failure on the field. We had Tony Elliott and then Brandon Streeter as our Offensive Coordinators. We also haven’t recruited well for OL due to hanging on to our OL coach. When Dabo fired Streeter and hired Riley (and our OL coach retired) the entire Clemson fan base rejoiced. Even if we take the L here we at least have some hope which we didn’t have under Elliott or Streeter.
Clemson losing in solidarity with TCU.
Assuming this holds up, the Frogs thank you for taking half of the attention for the upcoming media cycle. TCU is now stuck hoping that Coach Prime was an evil genius all along.
Wow
Clemson is 2/7 on fgs their last 2 games. 2/8 including the fake
Well I'm no cock, but honestly I still haven't forgiven clemson for the 04 peach bowl. So obligatory
“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Good to know that we are still in our villain stage, at least for now.
That game traumatized a young g0d0fm15ch13f, we were still considered powerhouses at that time and I view it as the beginning of our downfall. Hope you manage to have fun in the remainder of your season (but I wouldn't mind if you keep losing)
I’ll have fun, I’m still glad we hired an outside OC. Plus, these games make us shed some Walmart fans which is always good. Maybe one of these losses will light a match under our team like the 2016 Pitt loss.
Dabo is so pear shaped it hurts
Love the duke helmets honestly
Losing by three touchdowns has to unrank us. I’m not even going to vote for us in the c/cfb poll at this point. Unrank Clemson you cowards!
I mean, we have one data point for the season for Clem and it's losing by three scores. I don't really see how anyone can justify ranking them right now.
There's no way, clemson you ok there bud?
Cheers to the orange team!
Go Orange teams!
My darn internet cut out during that last drive. Felt like that Dr Pepper commercial where they're rushing to get the stream up
It seems like I can’t make it through a Clemson game without a targeting ejection. Usually it’s on us but still.
Well, regardless if we can come back or not (probably not) we deserve this L.
Oof. That’s a costly mistake.
Really shooting ourselves in the foot after some great runs.
TD Shipley! That muffed punt by Calhoun might be the turning point of the game. Hopefully our offense doesn’t lose the little momentum that it has gained.
Hopefully Garrett Riley can make some good halftime adjustments. We can’t rely on Duke to keep making mistakes that keep us in the game.
We still can’t defend against QB runs.
Thanks Duke for not shutting us out. I hope you guys win out! I will root for you if you match up against FSU in the ACC title.
I wonder how we mess this drive up
Oh I figured it out!
On one hand, I feel better that we have some semblance of a second half offense. On the other hand, we seem allergic to the red zone.