‘It’s not sustainable’: US farmers reeling as Iran war pushes fertilizer costs up
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/20/iran-war-us-farming-impactOpen linkView original on reddthat.com
Oh no the John Deere welfare queens are about to get yet another bailout
No, they want. This time around, they want them to go under, so the AGcorps and data centers can buy it all up cheap.
After all, they won't be needing their votes in the future.
All these maga farmers are going to lose their farms to Trump's buddies and then we'll all be paying more for food.
For BAD food.
Trump fucking over the farmers who voted for him yet again
2nd time in 1 year. the first time was his 1st term and he quickly "fixed' that sorta.
Great. More of our tax dollars will be wasted keeping up more Trump voters who regularly vote against their own best interests...yet no one sees them as what they are: welfare queens.
this is the 3rd the farmers voter for him, and the 3rd time he screwed them over.
And there is famers who didn't vote for him and countries needs famers
Aw... Are the leopards not eating the right faces there dumbasses?
This is why you don't elect idiots
As a Canadian I am all for selling our potash to just about anyone else.
They said they didn't need anything from us.
That includes military assistance and fertilizer.
It's sort of bonkers that sewerage treatment plants do create fertilizer as well. It just has to get from the treatment plants to the plant plants.
Also, most fertilizer being shipped around the world is just nitrogen taken from the air, which is an energy intensive process. Hence, the use of LPG.
Human sewage is not fertilizer. It's full of drugs, plastic, and who knows whatever else people just dump down the drain. Sure the water gets filtered, but the solid waste is contaminated as fuck all.
It has to be processed to remove the junk, which also sterilizes it. Which takes energy and time, and it USED to be more cost effective for a plant in a place where LNG comes from to pull nitrogen from the air to make fertilizer.
We already have plenty of solid sewerage waste, and even agricultural waste from cows we should be reusing.
...there's free drugs down there?
*don't?
But they do. That sludge is mostly spread on non-food fields though, because that would require more treatment than we are willing to pay for.
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/12/02/texas-farmers-pfas-forever-chemicals-biosolids-fertilizer/
https://fortworthreport.org/2025/01/27/sewage-fertilizer-poses-health-risks-epa-warns-what-does-that-mean-for-north-texas/
https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/01/forever-chemicals-sludge-may-taint-nearly-70-million-farmland-acres
https://apnews.com/article/sewage-sludge-pasture-farms-milk-beef-harmful-cancer-epa-42e084b6a41852fdafd199d355c7a890
It's much more efficient to shop fertilizer than lpg.
My city has been making fertilizer from the sewage sludge for a century now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milorganite
Glad someone is!
you dont want to use sewage/poop as fertilizer, you will be risking bacterial,viral and parasites from it.
As it's processed, it has to have pfas, microplastics, and heavy metals removed. That also sterilizes it.
Maybe we can bail them out...again.
Apparently farmers don't have bootstraps.
Almost as if this impending economic collapse of the USA is by design...
Fertilizer isnt sustainable...
We're gonna run out, but before we do it's fucking up the entire ecosystem.
There's no way to sustain the population we have now, any that thinks we can isn't thinking on the right timelines.
We absolutely can sustain the population we have now. The majority of crops grown don't even go to humans.
No we can't...
Even if everyone switched to a full vegan diet and we culled every farm animal immediately, it would be a bandaid.
We're propped up by non renewable phosphate fertilizer and virtually no country tries to reclaim what is used.
I'm pretty sure one small wastewater plant in England reclaims it, the rest gets flushed out to the ocean where it causes further issues and becomes for all intents and purposes irrevocable.
Like, I'm not saying going vegan is pointless, I'm just saying it's the equivalent of paper straws on a global timeline.
We're fucked, and we've been fucked longer than any human has been alive, we just haven't realized it yet.
Yes, we can. The issue isn't a lack of resources, it's a lack of proper distribution to where the resources need to go.
Removing fertilizer would cause a major economic downturn but most agriculture isn't grown for human food. It's calorie crops that get turned into feed and fuel. We would see temporary depressions in many farm areas until they rebound into food or clothes plants like cotton or flax. And that's only a year or two for the farmer to learn their crop. Good land doesn't stay empty for long.
Everyone is agreeing with that...
The problem is "good" land.
Even if we only grew the most efficient crops and utilized proper crop rotation, we wouldn't be able to feed just humans without fertilizer.
And not only are we going to run out, the runoff into the environment is fucking shit up.
Like, that's what people aren't understanding, and I honestly can't think of an easier way to explain it.
Fertilizer is use and stockpiles are fine and not a pressing concern.
Just like how tobacco doesn't cause cancers and fossil fuels will last forever with no downsides!
Fertilizer is most definitely sustainable. Drowning your fields in it isn't. We will have energy to spare to produce nitrogen fertilizers. You don't need that much energy for that, just more than nothing.
It's not, but luckily there's a way I'll never see another one of your unprompted and illogical opinions again.
Saskatchewan produces 30% of the world's fertilizer and it's nowhere close to the end yet.
The only problem for America is they have an idjit in power who can't see far enough ahead to NOT tariff the shit out of it.
As I said:
I'm assuming you're talking about ammonia fertilizer tho.
Do you know that process requires fossil fuels?
Do you understand that burning fossil fuels isn't sustainable?
Phosphate and potash are both mined, and eventually we'll run out of that just like the liquid natural gas to get the ammonia. But we need all three in specif percentages, we can't just use any combination, they don't do the same thing...
Continuing to use fertilizer to support an ever expanding population is as sustainable as turning the AC up to mitigate climate change.
It only "works" if you don't understand the problem, unfortunately lots of people get belligerent when they realize they're not thinking thru something.
No. Please don't assume. Go find data that backs you up.
https://thisvsthat.io/ammonium-sulfate-vs-potash
No what?
You linked a source saying that ammonium sulfate and potash are different and have different functions...
Which is what I said:
I don't understand what you're trying to disagree with, or what "assumptions" you're talking about?
The only assumption I made was that you were talking about ammonia, but if that's what you meant your link makes zero logical sense...
What are you trying to say?
Smaller farms, maybe.
But Big Ag will just jack up prices while the little guy fails. Oh, look! Cheap farms to buy up!
Great video from a farmer addressing the fertilizer "crisis" https://youtu.be/13gQAt7OzxE