The latest episode of the Europeans podcast (@[email protected]) features a really nice interview with Eugen Rochko (aka "Europe's anti-Elon") where he goes into his thoughts about Mastodon, the Fediverse, and his own position in all of it. It's a really interesting discussion, and an excellent example of how one can talk to people about the Fediverse without making it sound incredibly intimidating.

The interview starts around 0:40:50.