It's just not worth the effort. You'll find out they have change their policies on something, and you'll have to fix your app to suit. It's an endless churn of busywork
My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the ID requirements aren’t entirely their fault. Know Your Customer laws have started requiring things like IDs, so it’s likely that lawmakers are to blame for that gripe.
I mean, to some extent: waydroid actually works quite well, if you don't mind their security issues, a few apps also work with android translation layer. My main troubles are actually with virtual keyboards: there's nothing as good as heliboard so far, although the new plasma keyboard with custom layouts is usable
Interesting. I've tried Linux phones, they're not a bad idea per se. It looks like Waydroid is literally just emulating LineageOS, though, so I do start to wonder what the point is.
I suppose one advantage would be you can actually hack your system a bit, instead of having everything locked into the ROM.
It's more like a chroot, not exactly emulation. The point, at least for me, used to be that some apps for android have better ux than their Linux counterparts (mostly newpipe vs freetube and antennapod vs kasts), but since both of those work reasonably well in ATL, I don't really use it much now.
Compared to lineage, I quite like being able to run desktop software as well; nix is a godsend here, since they compile many packages for arm64 as well as x86. Although, to be fair, I haven't tried running nixos in chroot alongside android; mb a viable option as well
more than that; you need to build on a ios machine, so every few years you have to buy a mac mini or some shit just to run xcode to compile the app. at least the last time I released an app across both stores that's where we were (8 years ago).
So that's why there weren't any open source apps on iOS. When I started my degoogling journey I got an iPhone to try out the grass on the other side. But i was sorely disappointed by both the low quality of the apps and the lack of open source alternatives.
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Luckily google would never do the same to android /s
https://keepandroidopen.org/
Its still cheaper to publish on the play store (one time fee of $25), and iirc apks would still be installable with adb anyway.
Still a shitty thing to do
One time fee sure, and then they close your account for not pushing updates frequently enough....
I'm triggered.
Writing a privacy policy for an entirely off-line app was endlessly frustrating.
And it's crazy that there is no validation of the policy, you can say what you want and then do anything you like...
Give them a pseudo update
It's just not worth the effort. You'll find out they have change their policies on something, and you'll have to fix your app to suit. It's an endless churn of busywork
and they started requiring government id in the us
My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the ID requirements aren’t entirely their fault. Know Your Customer laws have started requiring things like IDs, so it’s likely that lawmakers are to blame for that gripe.
even in the EU? that's a bit hard to believe
Honestly, that's great, but you might as well cut to the chase and switch ROMs as well. Google isn't going to budge.
To postmarketos preferably
If you don't care about installing any particular mobile software, that would work.
LineageOS is the current game in town otherwise, unless you want a Pixel, in which case there's options like GrapheneOS.
I mean, to some extent: waydroid actually works quite well, if you don't mind their security issues, a few apps also work with android translation layer. My main troubles are actually with virtual keyboards: there's nothing as good as heliboard so far, although the new plasma keyboard with custom layouts is usable
Interesting. I've tried Linux phones, they're not a bad idea per se. It looks like Waydroid is literally just emulating LineageOS, though, so I do start to wonder what the point is.
I suppose one advantage would be you can actually hack your system a bit, instead of having everything locked into the ROM.
It's more like a chroot, not exactly emulation. The point, at least for me, used to be that some apps for android have better ux than their Linux counterparts (mostly newpipe vs freetube and antennapod vs kasts), but since both of those work reasonably well in ATL, I don't really use it much now.
Compared to lineage, I quite like being able to run desktop software as well; nix is a godsend here, since they compile many packages for arm64 as well as x86. Although, to be fair, I haven't tried running nixos in chroot alongside android; mb a viable option as well
And this is why iOS gets progressive web apps from me. It isn't that I can't afford $100, it's more fuck Apple for demanding tribute from my work.
I instead label iOS as simply unsupported
It's not that iOS is unsupported. It's just that they prohibit browsers from implementing the features my webapp needs.
If you make them with graceful degradation. Most toolkits/frameworks don't. Else, simply make your webapp a webpage, please.
As Steve intended. The first iPhone had no app store.
more than that; you need to build on a ios machine, so every few years you have to buy a mac mini or some shit just to run xcode to compile the app. at least the last time I released an app across both stores that's where we were (8 years ago).
Cloud bro
not really wild about it. but, fortunately has not been a problem since ignoring the iOS market lol.
Not that great
We have that problem at work. There's basically just a single hoster that provides mac machines with CI pipeline integration. And it's janky as fuck
If people want your app on ios then set up a donnorbox or something.
Will a döner box do?
Jetzt hab ich Hunger
How about a dick in a box?
That comes in the Donner Party box
If they are charging that much they clearly don't want my app
So that's why there weren't any open source apps on iOS. When I started my degoogling journey I got an iPhone to try out the grass on the other side. But i was sorely disappointed by both the low quality of the apps and the lack of open source alternatives.
There is some, but it's mostly large projects with a lot of funding.
There's some oss projects on the app store that cost money as a way to cover the fee
Don't forget about apple aggressively blocking any form of sideloading for a while
Still happens in the US, sadly. The EU forced them to allow sideloading, but the US version of iOS still tries to prevent it.
Damn I didn't know that. At least ios can now save PWAs lol
There are some open source iOS apps. VLC, Organic Maps, Psychonaut Journal, NetNewsWire, lots of Lemmy clients.