Spyke
lemmy.zip

What keeps a peach from being a single-seed berry or from an avocado being a drupe?

Edit: low-key love that we are all learning by sharing knowledge and evidence. It's refreshing.

Edit 2: Fun Fact. Did you know Oklahoma has Watermelon as the State's Vegetable?

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lemmy.world

In other words, by my understanding, peaches have a pit containing their seeds, but avocados just have a seed.

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bdonvrreply
thelemmy.club

We call it that but the whole thing is just a big ol seed

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

But how is that any different than a peach? I’m so confused by this.

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Looks like the endocarp in the avocado is imperceptible, whereas it is the hard pit in peaches and other drupes, per Wikipedia

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Drupes have pits contained within a hard shell (I guess called an endocarp?).

Peach pits look like an almond inside of a walnut shell basically. Avocados just have a really large seed in direct contact with the buttery soft mesocarp.

I don't know who decided to classify gourds, melons, and citrus fruits as berries, but I imagine they had mischief in mind...

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An apple sounds much less appealing when you describe it as an indecent (achoo) swollen receptacle tissue with a soft mesocarp...

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discuss.tchncs.de

Aubergines, cucumbers, kiwi, and citrusfruit are botanical berries as well. The correct answer is that berry should be seen as a culinary term just like fruit and vegetable.

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lemmy.world

Fruit is sweet, vegetables are savory, berries are what I declare to be a berry. Done and done

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lemmy.zip

Most "fruit" are sweet because we made them so. And we did so with plenty of vegetables too.

Sweetest thing in my garden are tomatoes.

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Mulligrubsreply
lemmy.world

Once you grow your own tomatoes, supermarket just won't do. It's a different world, we are tomato buddies

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I'm so excited to start planting; all the tomato seeds we planned last weekend have already germinated

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Berries aren't berries. Vegetables aren't real.

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lemmy.world

I didn't know plants have ovaries. Does that mean that strawberries are like an afterbirth? Are seedless fruit menstrual flow?

Maybe humans could evolve so that the bloody placenta attracts wolves who then raise the baby.

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lemmy.world

You know that white stuff that the seeds attach to in chilis? That’s the placenta! It’s the spiciest part of the whole pepper!

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I can't tell if you've ruined chilies for me, or if something else is happening.

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Now I need to know if Blackberry is a berry.

*No:

The usually black fruit is not a berry in the botanical sense, as it is termed botanically as an aggregate fruit, composed of small drupelets.

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It's the same as tomato being taxonomically a fruit. Taxonomically does not mean culinarily. Most people use culinary terms for these. Tomato is a vegetable. The first berry group is berries. Etc.

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At times like these I'm kinda ok with portuguese lacking a "proper" word for berry. "Bago" or "baga" isn't really used, at least not in everyday life, everyone will always refer to them as fruits

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