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lemmy.world

This greaseball wants to sell out trans people, not understanding that the reactionaries will just move on to the next target.

But you can't expect a liberal centrist to understand solidarity. I want him to lose the gubernatorial primary so fucking much.

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lemmy.world

Presidential primary? He's already governor but term limited. Fortunately, the more people see him and not his social media team, the greasier he's revealed to be

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pawb.social

IMO, a California politician would face an uphill battle in the general anyway.

Republicans have spent so long demonizing California as a place full of communists and corruption that any politician associated with California is going to be viewed with intense suspicion by the (unfortunately all-important) flyover states.

Now, to be clear, fuck those ignorant assholes. But we do kind of need their votes, regardless. And it would be a mistake to run a candidate in the general election who has this disadvantage in swaying them.

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The funny thing is newsom is so far removed from being any of those things Republicans paint California Dems as.

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Yes, I think he likes it that way. The status quo is the goal. He's not actually progressive at all, he just wears a progressive mask when he needs to, so it gets him votes.

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He's portrayed as satan to the people he's trying to meet half way

This is a guy who does not understand the current media landscape and will Keir Starmer himself into being Donald Trump Lite. He is a political dead end that will inevitably reinforce fascism.

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How did the other side get so many votes being extremely culturally abnormal? The claim makes no sense.

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Remember when Bernie Sanders called out Newsom for being part of the big business class?

He's a classic D.

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lemmy.world

Im honestly not sure how he is different from Mitt Romney. They might be the same person.

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lemmy.today

Yes, the American people really want to be ass fucked by corporate america without their consent. It's the fault of those arguing there needs to be consent that America rejected our candidate, someone that never breached 30% approval all term, didn't win a single state in the prior primary, and wasn't offering any popular reform in her campaign.

It must have been bigotry, which somehow then exonerates us from anointing a candidate that couldn't win.

Win some lose some, the important thing is the rich don't have to unsteal your lunch and can continue to steal your homes while they are at it. It's not like the other party is openly planning on fixing elections. Oh they are? Well I'm sure it's just performative, and they won't follow through. I mean it's not like they would dare to indict likely front runners and establishment types in 2027 in the fall for false election rigging charges. /s

This is all too stupid to satirize at this point. People still trust them to lead the resistance somehow though.

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lemmy.world

You say that but I present the DNC 2028 counter to every argument you might have

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things that really matter (0:18)

Like opposing genocide? I'd consider that something that really matters.

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piefed.social

I stopped listening to this man when he told everyone to stay home during Covid and happily went out to dinner with his rich friends.

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lemmy.ca

Well, he's close to saying they need to focus on universal material issues more than leaning into identity politics, which I agree with, but I don't think that's quite what he's going for. Focusing on universal material issues does not mean throwing this or that marginalized group under the bus and he's already run over some people.

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He is doing the classic Liberal doublespeak.

He starts off by saying Democrats should not focus on identity politics. But then right after it he says that Democrats should adopt his version of identity politics to solve the issue instead of not letting it be the focus.

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sopuli.xyz

When centrists say "focus on kitchen table issues" they don't actually mean focus on universal material issues. It's just a cudgel to try to crack the left and make them think nothing should be done on anything. Most of his vetoes have been against straightforward material concerns, not mandating trans flags on paper straws.

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Most of his vetoes have been against straightforward material concerns, not mandating trans flags on paper straws.

This is the most damning part against giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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The palestinians in 2024, trans people in 2028. And you'll have people crying about harm reduction in 2030 blaming leftists for telling others not to vote for the double genocide party.

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Holy heck. The Voyager app autoplays video with the sound muted, but his facial expresssions and body language are slimy and supercilious.

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Charliekirk and billionaires aren't normal, Gavin. Stick to trolling trump and then drop out of the primary.

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They don't even talk about that stuff as much, it's conservatives claiming they do that got it into everyone's heads that Dems go on and on about trans people.

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thelemmy.club

I would vote for Newsome over Trump, Vance, or Rubio, but please not Newsome. He's not progressive.

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lemmy.world

Eh, tbh I might just not vote. I also hate people saying this this early on, it can give him and the establishment the idea that people will just support whatever dogshit corpo Dem they shove at us. There has to be a line somewhere, and he's damn near it.

We still have a whole ass primary season to go, and we have to make damn sure they know that people hate newsom.

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sh.itjust.works

How'd that go in Late 2024?

Have enough Venezuelans died yet?

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Don't pretend you care about a hundred dead Venezuelans when you supported the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

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lemmy.org

What he's saying isn't wrong. Republicans are very good at identifying a wedge issue then pinning it onto Democrats. Gavin is saying Democrats shouldn't take the bait so easily, allowing Republicans to dictate the terms of discourse. Which is absolutely true.

But the solution isn't to just abandon trans people, women, immigrants, Palestinians, Ukrainians, or any other targeted community used as ammunition in a political fight.

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But the solution isn’t to just abandon trans people, women, immigrants, Palestinians, Ukrainians, any other targeted community used as ammunition in a political fight.

It's centrists' solution.

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