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Singapore To Serve As Airport Testbed For CFM RISE Open Fan Engines

Under the initiative, either Singapore Changi Airport (SIN) or Seletar Airport (XSP) will be used as a testbed to co-develop what CAAS describes as a “comprehensive readiness framework” for integrating open-fan engines and next-generation aircraft into existing airport operations. The work will cover aircraft and engine design considerations, airport infrastructure modifications, changes to operational procedures, safety standards and regulatory processes.

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Think of how easily those things can be hosed down after they shred a whole flock of seagulls.

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feddit.uk

And how much more easily they could survive it. Conventional turbofans get the birds stuck inside and fail. These could effectively bounce them off.

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Sure, a few seagulls would survive but that is something that could easily be fixed in another version.

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jlai.lu

Turbofans are tested by shooting a standardized frozen turkey into them. The engine must survive to be qualified.

I'm sure a bad luck event can have birds stuck inside, but in most cases they go all the way through.

Edit: found this reference: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-33/subpart-E/section-33.76

And this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBHJvSJoX4k Not sure if it's the right thing, some comments say it's a blade separation test, which is much more violent than bird ingestion.

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piefed.social

It makes sense, at that altitude birds are frozen solid.

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Hehe, I expect they're thawed before the test, but who knows!

The GE9x is shown being tested by launching a block of solid ice at the fan, and it shreds the ice!

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jlai.lu

That's why plane tickets are so expensive...

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Is it any worse than what would happen to birds with conventional turbofans?

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My friends a goose and I asked him what he thought about this design. Completely unphased by it, infact I'm not even sure he understood me.

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The amount of people in here that are complaining about non-issues as if they don't know that exposed props have existed for centuries now is baffling.

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sh.itjust.works

They're claiming 20% more fuel efficiency which would be huge, but at the expense of a metric fuck load of moving parts. Also who the fuck knows that happens if you have to make a gear up landing with these things

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feddit.uk

How many more moving parts than a conventional turbofan? Maybe four gears and a rotor?

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This thing looks like it has less moving paths than a normal turbofan... Look at cutouts of the CFM56, easily available online.

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Uh all of those blades, including the fixed ones, are variable pitch. Every single blade has several precision moving parts

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There would probably be less damage than from a conventional turbofan hitting it - the blades would shatter rather than the cowling digging in.

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Loud. There, an actual complaint that would be applicable to this design.

Regular turbofans will kill geese at basically the same rate as this and would be just about as dangerous as well. But moving parts outside of shielding will be louder, as more sound energy will make it to the fuselage.

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