Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 8th February 2026
Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.
Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. A lot of people didn't survive January, but at least we did. This also ended up going up on my account's cake day, too, so that's cool.)
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Re datacenters in space:
Multiple hackernews insist that SpaceX must have discovered new physics that solves orbital heat management, because otherwise Musk and the stockholders are dumb.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862222
Edit: may have gotten the ol URL switcharoo:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862170
Current top comment is nice (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46862435):
Truly a conundrum worthy of the XXI century
Very much "sweaty guy hovering over two buttons"
The leaps in logic are so idiotic "he managed to land a rocket up right, so maybe he can pull it off!" (as if Elon personally made that happen, or as if a engineering challenge and fundamental thermodynamic limits are equally solvable). This is despite multiple comments replying with back of the envelope calcs on energy generation and heat dissipation of the ISS and comparing it to what you would need for even a moderately sized data center. Or even the comments that are like "maybe there is a chance", as if it is wiser to express uncertainty...
1,604 comments jfc
The Comics Journal: I have no mouth and I must scream at Black people: Scott Adams, 1957-2026
The headline alone is worthy of upvoting. About halfway through the article, the author includes an embedded YouTube video of the Dilberito Flash game. Made me reflect that 20 years ago, they might simply have directly embedded the game itself. And contemplate what the Web might look like if/when external YouTube embedding craps out.
And goddamn:
I didn't realize it was quite that harsh, but so it goes. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
OT: paying the cat tax…again. Please ignore the ash on Hector’s head, its an ongoing mystery where thats been coming from.
You can basically tell their personalities from the photo.
once again, the facade of the "whoops, bad company" falls to the ground the moment she needs her hands to fill the pompoms instead of hold up the venetian mask
::: spoiler transcript a quote tweet by @XiWellWisher, reads: "So what's the deal with this ghastly woman again? She's a sort of silicon valley Ghislaine Maxwell?"
the quoted tweet by aella reads: "There's apparently a pro-billionaire protest in SF on the 7th. I might go to this to support! Anybody else going?" :::
also, real weird account name on that account, wonder if it's a sock
robin hanson blocked me for referring to him as aella with tenure. now i think that he's ghislaine maxwell with tenure
"pro-billionaire" sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little. Also the billionaires are the ones rushing to create the thing so many rationalists claim is an existential risk, why the fuck would you support them??
Yeah, @XiWellWisher going up against Aella on X, The Everything App is well into late-SNL stages of unfunny parody
i don't find that name too strange, it's a post-ironic Online Leftist shibboleth
Bruh
Ryan Mac:
https://bsky.app/profile/rmac.bsky.social/post/3me4wmrgic226
These are the people who come next election will be voting strictly according to an AI's say so.
Enjoyed this piece from Mission Local on San Francisco's "March for Billionaires" yesterday.
Choice excerpts:
A polycule with Aella, otherwise known as a nightmare fuck rotation
Scum.
edit: reasonably certain annie is annieposting from tpot.
I assumed billionaires could afford better signs. Were all her EAs on leave that week?
Remember when Rationalists pretended to care about truth, steelmanning, ideological turning tests etc.
(Also implying that billionaires are strong and attractive is funny)
Yall still are radical hippies. Some hippies just love the boot.
Rationalism, the empathy removal training center.
lol.
Converted by Scott. (That 'people are saying I was wrong but actually I was right' disclaimer aged worse than the post).
Did any actual billionaires show up to press their case, or was it all just cronies?
from bsky photos looks like entire gathering was 30 people. t h i r t y p e o p l e i might have counted some reporter or someone passing by randomly by accident
gag. going full mask off now
but of course
desperately trying to latch themselves onto the coattails of whatever passes for cool among nerds these days
I see that Silicon Valley has transcended AGI technology* and can now execute NP-complete** problems.
* A Guy in India
** Nationals from the Philippines, Completely
Tangentially on topic:
Just finished The Regicide Report by friend of the instance Charles Stross. Hell of a finish to the main series! I'll likely start a re-read of the whole series soon, and I'm hopeful that it'll win all the awards.
Had a couple of shower thoughts afterward:
In the previous novel, a bunch of American computer bois with brainworms concocted a plan to disassemble the moon and turn it into orbital datacenters, which is lol
Ghislaine Maxwell is the Iris Carpenter of pedos.
Keeping speculative fiction ahead of current events must be exhausting.
@o7___o7 @techtakes That's why I'm fleeing screaming back to the arms of far-future space opera ATM.
@BlueMonday1984 @o7___o7
I reread the last couple of 'main line' laundry files books before I dived into the latest. The complete capture of the US government by The Sleeper's minions tracks what's actually happened since in the US I had a panic attack and needed a day or two to calm down.
Same thing happening in the UK now. I can t think of anywhere safe to hide.
I hear ya. I mean, Stross's George Clooney stood and fought the horrors, while ours ran away to France. (The book really captured the unique American flavor of High Weirdness and the stickiness of Amerca's belief in its own mythos, didnt it though?)
In the here and now, I try to remind myself that they're the ones who suck and that they should hide.
When Woke 2 comes we're going to be insuffferable.
Today in excellent cold opens: "I didn't talk to ChatGPT, I never have. Instead, I took a load of edibles and laid down in the driveway with the hose on. I produced nothing of value and wasted a ton of water, but at least I ate three protein bars so I'm so healthy."
Bit early to celebrate, but every bit of grit in the wheels of the llm machine is welcome: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift
Still plenty of other ai projects going full steam ahead, but promotion in plenty of tech companies and especially microsoft comes with being associated with a product launch, and if you’re smart what happens after the launch is someone else’s problem. I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty of this stiff clinging on until it reaches consumers, and then being immediately “scaled back”.
R3call
Buisness plan: daily reminders to Recall the Recall Recall. It's memento mori for CEOs as a service.
Does (deservedly) mercilessly bullying Slopya Nadella actually work?
So Krauss tried to introduce Joe Rogan to Epstein
But Rogan may have been unwilling to do so
How is it Joe Rogan is (possibly) the smartest person in this situation?
Similarly, what's going on with Charles Murray (Bell Curve) ???
He converted to christianity? https://www.amazon.com/Taking-Religion-Seriously-Charles-Murray/dp/1641774851
But now supports euthanisia? https://www.compactmag.com/article/how-i-changed-my-mind-on-assisted-suicide/
Over in the epstein files, Jim Watson tried to make an intro but Murray never replied? https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00475960.pdf
Apparently he's a Quaker, so maybe that's how the euthanasia stance can pass muster. But Quakerism might also make even less sense with his views on race? I don't know enough about the reality of Quakerism to say.
Also, looks like Harris also deliberately side-stepped the dinner bait but I don't know how much of that was because of Chomsky's presence. Epstein tried again a year later without the Chomsky attendee name-drop, but Harris might have just not replied.
At least there are no surprises with Dawkins, even his sleazy friend Brockman seemingly finds him tiring
Glib jibes aside, I haven't been able to bring myself to look at many of the docs that aren't just quasi-celeb emails, the few I did see were far too much for me. I'm horrified at nearly everyone from all ideological stances on a number of different levels I never considered. I can only hope the remaining victims someday are able to find some peace, and some kind of huge systemic reform can come from this. What a vile world we live in.
being a member of the old boy club beats ideological differences.
Quakers have a history of being anti-racist, but views on stuff like abortion and euthansia cam vary a lot. Quakerism is big on both individual conscience but also social justice and activism. It's an interesting denomination.
The common clay of the new west:
::: spoiler transcription Twitter post from @BenjaminDEKR
“OpenClaw is interesting, but will also drain your wallet if you aren't careful. Last night around midnight I loaded my Anthropic API account with $20, then went to bed. When I woke up, my Anthropic balance was $O. Opus was checking "is it daytime yet?" every 30 minutes, paying $0.75 each time to conclude "no, it's still night." Doing literally nothing, OpenClaw spent the entire balance. How? The "Heartbeat" cron job, even though literally the only thing I had going was one silly reminder, ("remind me tomorrow to get milk")”
Continuation of twitter post
“1. Sent ~120,000 tokens of context to Opus 4.5 2. Opus read HEARTBEAT md, thought about reminders 3. Replied "HEARTBEAT_OK" 4. Cost: ~$0.75 per heartbeat (cache writes) The damage:
There are other posts of the same story that include the original “dev” learning his lesson by using a cheaper model instead of just using a clock.
https://bsky.app/profile/rusty.todayintabs.com/post/3mdrdn3uu7226
There’s also a hackernews which is interesting : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46854150
I hadn’t realised quite how terrible the basic offering was. I guess every reinvented-cron-but-unaffordable project pushes the ai companies a little closer to bankruptcy, which is better than nothing, I guess.
$1000 a week?? Even putting aside literally all of the other issues of AI, it is quite damning that AI cannot even beat humans on cost. AI somehow manages to screw up the one undeniable advantage of software. How do these people delude themselves into thinking that the dogshit they're eating is good?
As a sidenote, I think after the bubble collapses, the people who predict that there will still be some uses for genAI are mostly wrong. In large part, this is because they do not realize just how ruinously expensive it is to run these models, let alone scrape data and train them. Right now, these costs are being subsidized by venture capitalists putting their money into a furnace.
They think it's just that they're early, like they did with bitcoin. Maybe in six monthsthe dogshit will start to taste great, who's to say, and so on and so forth.
Also swengs in the USA often make absurdly more than 1K/week.
I guess I can check back in six months to see how they're doing ... wait a minute, they were saying the same things six months ago, weren't they? That's a bummer.
Well, sure, but that was six months ago.
Tired: it's required to taste
Wired: it's an acquired taste
they're already pivoting to the narrative that "local models will be plenty good enough and it will be trivially affordable to run them"
ON WHAT HARDWARE BEN, DDR2 SCAVENGED FROM JUNKYARDS???
i still think that lots of people damaged by chatbots will stop in their tracks when this vc money burning charade ends, they won't be able to set up it all locally because chatbots brainrotted them even if it was possible in the first place
god I can’t wait for the subsidies to end
Either the stupidity just metastasized or China is going to try and pull a reverse star wars on the US and make them burn up an even more horrendous amount of capital to keep up with nothing.
China plans space‑based AI data centres, challenging Musk's SpaceX ambitions (reuters)
You know what they say. Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake, as this can allow them to continue their errors and lead to their own downfall
patio11 and tptacek are experts on daycares in Minnesota. This is very on topic for a technology website that eschews politics.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46915587
It's a real fuckin scum scrum over there(1). Between these dorks and Mozilla Jake, it seems like every nerd-ass fash clown in tech got the memo to talk like an emotionally abusive ex with dying wizard characteristics.
(1) even more so than ususal
I miss when Patrick McKenzie was just sharing an American's view on Japanese culture and reminding devs that names are not always Firstname Lastname in the Latin alphabet and 'just' paying yourself twice the average local income from your business is not a failure. The following is deep twitter pundit brain for a rich white man in Chicago who has lived most of his adult life in Japan and SoCal referring to social programs for poor brown people in Minnesota:
Edit. I also like the HN response which explains that private companies have few responses to fraud except refusing service, but the State of Minnesota can arrest fraudsters, command third parties to provide evidence about them, and send them to prison, so the People of Minnesota require strong evidence before it uses those powers.
I knew nothing about, and had no opinion on, daycare facilities in Minnesota run by Somali immigrants, before Trump-supporting media entities decided to make the topic an astroturf issue. On the other hand, I had plenty of experience with people whose worldviews had been severely warped by such coordinated media campaigns. Mr. McKenzie should take some time to reflect on this.
Yes, I think the people who should have opinions beyond "the state government found some fraud and is investigating further cases" are people who live in Minnesota and have connections to daycare or immigrant communities. Its notorious that the NYT repackages stories by reporters in smaller orgs (or randos on social media) and puts its own spin on them! They don't have a specific editorial line on social services in the Midwest, just instincts.
Btw, been appreciating your posts lately!
more proximately, he also went to the Manifold Markets meetup for statistical predictors that just happened to include Jordan Lasker, which is why he keeps making these posts with curiously Lasker-adjacent talking points. It's very disappointing.
patio11's sometimes bosses at Stripe are such ambitious capitalists that they sometimes scare him. Maybe his racist friends told him that the Japanese are honorary Aryans?
Ammon Bundy has his own little hillbilly elegy in The Atlantic this week. See, while he's all about armed insurrection against the government, he's not in favor of ICE. He wants the Good Old Leppards to be running things, not these Goose-Stepping Nazi-Leopards. He just wanted to run his cattle on federal lands and was willing to be violent about it, y'know? Choice sneer, my notes added:
All cattle, no cap. I cannot give this man a large-enough Fell For It Again Award. The Atlantic closes:
Oh, the left doesn't have a home for Bundy or other Christofascists. Apology not accepted and all that.
I'm willing to accept him if he converts to Communist Anarchism in his heart of hearts and writes a long treatsie on what he thinks that even is.
i think it's when you and a bunch of other vegans live in a group home together and argue over who does the dishes
OT: vehicle shopping is such a clusterfuck these days jfc. Do not recommend. Also car salesmen are on par with rationalists, I swear to god.
The "we'll save some bucks by removing physical knobs and pose this as futuristic by making some vital functions only accessible via multiple levels of menus on a touchscreen" thing is the worst and should be banned.
the last time I drove a car was in 2015 or so, and back then every car I got had no computers in them. I dread the day that I need to have a vehicle again and my friggin car will upload bullshit into the cloud or whatever. the idea of having screens of any kind on a car is repulsive to me
Navigation stuff is unfortunately (and embarrassingly) critical for me, otherwise I’d be in total agreement with you.
I've been deliberately learning to navigate without GPSes and tech devices, as a life skill (also on foot/public transport). I'm terrible at navigating, but I'm realising navigating is kinda like handwriting—in that it's very easy to fall into the trap of saying "I'm terrible at this" as a kind of immutable personality trait, while in fact it's perfectly expected that one is bad at a skill that one never uses, and turns out I can get better at it even with a little bit of deliberate practice. I suck at things but I can improve.
In the meantime when I use an electronic map to navigate, I still would rather stick a smartphone to the dashboard a car and use whatever navigation app I prefer, than have the screens and navigators built into the car.
OT but, though this is mostly about appreciating things in nature rather than navigating a city by car or on foot, this book has helped me a lot with not being anymore a person with a "bad sense of direction", even when walking downtown: The Natural Navigator by Tristan Gooley . I really recommend it for people who hike, even occasionally.
I’ll check this out, thanks!!
One thing I discovered on my mom's late-model VW SUV is that the manufacturer-provided semi-physical/capacitative touch dash buttons are pretty much useless when interacting with Apple CarPlay; that all becomes touchscreen-only. And the forced transition in inputs is not particularly obvious. I have to wonder if most implementations are like that, compounding confusion on top of distraction.
Huh, I just realized yesterday that my car (also a late-model VAG model) does have a touchscreen that reacts to gloved fingers. This was the base infotainment system, not Carplay.
Unfortunately the steering wheel controls are touch, not physical. A big downgrade.
that one in which the person behind/running @FirefoxWebDevs drops the mask so fast it looks like a magic trick: gallery link
thread by @self, toots by myself and others. the poster managed to keep their civility for quite a while until I dared(tm) to highlight their lack of a reply outside of UK 5pm, at which point they immediately ramped up
(and based on some screenshots I’ve been sent, he’s also been doing the classic tail-darvo moping elsewhere)
I’ll have you know we’re acting like someone who’s rude to “serving staff” right now, where serving staff is defined as a formerly chrome currently mozilla developer relations marketing guy with fucking flatlined vibes
uhm @self can you show me where I wrote this? can you show me where I wrote these exact words? no? that’s so irrational of you.
listen here you little shit, we have a USER STUDY that proves that those who don’t even think of “serving staff” are the most virtuous humans. no you can’t see the data why would you even ask that
for those who hadn’t seen before, FWD is an account that showed up on the fedi not too long ago (3~4mo?), and has been acting as a Mouthpiece (and semi consent manufacturing outlet)
across a number of “polls” (with forced answer paths) they’ve had their replies absolutely blasted, and across literally hundreds of replies they’ve dodged the point so hard they might have invented a new sports class
earlier today I attempted to (quite lightly) check with them if they understand why their responses aren’t all-liked. it didn’t take much of long for them to go off the rails
Thanks for lighting his ass on fire. o7
and it wasn't even my goal to do that! couple of replies across hours, trying to see if this guy is capable of ... irunno, unassing their head(?) and engaging with the criticisms
then the subtlest thing set them off and shit went mask off so fast
but hey, at least this way we now just know and don't have to guess. so much easier
The vibes were wretched. Why do people to have to battle emotional abuse from a goddamned web browser?
+1, yeesh. Btw, if Dingus McGee there resides in the UK, might some of that shit might be legally actionable? I'd certainly have strong feelings about being defamed by the representative of a rather well-funded technology company lol
Found another website doing a good job keeping eye on the slop machines and their promoters: The AI Dirty List.
It also lists those who have fought against the bullshit fountains as well.
It seems that Anthropic has vibe coded a C compiler. This one is really good! The generated code is not very efficient. Even with all optimizations enabled, it outputs less efficient code than GCC with all optimizations disabled.
The first issue filed is called "Hello world does not compile" so you can tell it's off to a good start. Then the rest of the six pages of issues appear to be mostly spam filed by some AI guy's rogue chatbot.
I knew the Anthropic blog post was bullshit but every single time the reality is 10x worse that I anticipated.
@lagrangeinterpolator
That's beginning to look like a metric...
@sailor_sega_saturn
The comments are a hoot, at least.
@sailor_sega_saturn @dovel the nice thing about rogue chatbots is that there's no difference between that and a non-rogue chatbot
I wonder what actual experts in compilers think of this. There were some similar claims about vibe coding a browser from scratch that turned out to be a little overheated: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/01/27/cursor-lies-about-vibe-coding-a-web-browser-with-ai/
I do not believe that this demonstrates anything other than they kept making the AI brute force random shit until it happened to pass all the test cases. The only innovation was that they spent even more money than before. Also, it certainly doesn't help that GCC is open source, and they have almost certainly trained the model on the GCC source code (which the model can regurgitate poorly into Rust). Hell, even their blog post talks about how half their shit doesn't work and just calls GCC instead!
I wonder why this blog post was brazen enough to talk about these problems. Perhaps by throwing in a little humility, they can make the hype pill that much easier to swallow.
Sidenote: Rust seems to be the language of choice for a lot of these vibe coded "projects", perhaps because they don't want people immediately accusing them of plagiarism. But Rust syntax still reasonably follows languages like C. In most cases, blindly translating C code into Rust kinda works. Now, Rust does have the borrow checker which requires a lot of thinking to deal with, but I think this is not actually a disadvantage for the AI. Borrow checking is enforced by the compiler, so if you screw up in that department, your code won't even compile. This is great for an AI that is just brute forcing random shit until it "works".
I only sampled some of the docs and interesting-sounding modules. I did not carefully read anything.
First, the user-facing structure. The compiler is far too configurable; it has lots of options that surely haven't been tested in combination. The idea of a pipeline is enticing but it's not actually user-programmable. File headers are guessed using a combination of magic numbers and file extensions. The dog is wagged in the design decisions, which might be fair; anybody writing a new C compiler has to contend with old C code.
Next, I cannot state enough how generated the internals are. Every hunk of code tastes bland; even when it does things correctly and in a way which resembles a healthy style, the intent seems to be lacking. At best, I might say that the intent is cargo-culted from existing code without a deeper theory; more on that in a moment. Consider these two hunks. The first is generated code from my fork of META II:
And the second is generated code from their C compiler:
In general, the lexer looks generated, but in all seriousness, lexers might be too simple to fuck up relative to our collective understanding of what they do. There's also a lot of code which is block-copied from one place to another within a single file, in lists of options or lists of identifiers or lists of operators, and Transformers are known to be good at that sort of copying.
The backend's layering is really bad. There's too much optimization during lowering and assembly. Additionally, there's not enough optimization in the high-level IR. The result is enormous amounts of spaghetti. There's a standard algorithm for new backends, NOLTIS, which is based on building mosaics from a collection of low-level tiles; there's no indication that the assembler uses it.
The biggest issue is that the codebase is big. The second-biggest issue is that it doesn't have a Naur-style theory underlying it. A Naur theory is how humans conceptualize the codebase. We care about not only what it does but why it does. The docs are reasonably-accurate descriptions of what's in each Rust module, as if they were documents to summarize, but struggle to show why certain algorithms were chosen.
Choice sneer, credit to the late Jessica Walter for the intended reading: It's one topological sort, implemented here. What could it cost? Ten lines?
That's the secret: any generative tool which adapts to feedback can do that. Previously, on Lobsters, I linked to a 2006/2007 paper which I've used for generating code; it directly uses a random number generator to make programs and also disassembles programs into gene-like snippets which can be recombined with a genetic algorithm. The LLM is a distraction and people only prefer it for the ELIZA Effect; they want that explanation and Naur-style theorizing.
This could be its own post. Very nice!
This one idk, some of it could be more concise but it also has to build the graph first using that weird seemingly custom hashmap as the source. This function, however, is immensely funny
I think this makes it sound more cutting-edge and thus less scathing than it should, it's an algorithm from 2008 and is used by LLVM. Claude not only trained on the paper but on all of LLVM as well.
I feel this is an artefact of the near complete collapse of mainstream journalism, combined with modern tech business practises that are about securing investment and cashing out, and every other concern is secondary or even entirely absent. It’s all just selling vibes.
People only ever report the hype, the investors see everyone else following the hype and panic that they might be left out and bury you in cash. When it all turns sour and people ask pointed questions about the exact nature of the magic beans you were promising to grow, you can just point at the blog post that no-one read (or at least, only poor people read, and they’re barely people if you think about it) and point out that you never hid anything.
I don't even think many AI developers realize that we're in a hype bubble. From what I see, they genuinely believe that the Models Will Improve and that These Issues Will Get Fixed. (I see a lot of faculty in my department who still have these beliefs.)
What these people do see, however, are a lot of haters who just cannot accept this wonderful new technology for some reason. AI is so magical that they don't need to listen to the criticisms; surely they're trivial by comparison to magic, and whatever they are, These Issues Will Get Fixed. But lately they have realized that with the constant embarrassing AI failures (AI surely doesn't have horrible ethics as well), there are a lot of haters who will swarm the announcement of any AI project now. The haters also tend to be people who actually know stuff and check things (tech journalists are incentivized to not do that), but it doesn't matter because they're just random internet commenters, not big news outlets.
My theory is that now they add a ton of caveats and disclaimers to their announcements in a vain attempt to reduce the backlash. Also if you criticize them, it's actually your fault that it doesn't work. It's Still Early Days. These Issues Will Get Fixed.
I tell people that this is code for RAM and storage will cost 10x by this time next year when this comes up. Highly recommended.
We're Still Early never dies
Anthropic doesn't pay me and I'm not going to look over their pile of garbage for free, but just looking at the structure and READMEs it looks like a reasonable submission for an advanced student in a compiler's course: lowering to IR, SSA representation, dominators, phi elimination, some passes like strength reduction. The register allocator is very bad though, I'd expect at least something based on colouring.
The READMEs are also really annoying to read. They are overlong and they don't really explain what is going on in the module. There's no high-level overview of the architecture of the compiler. A lot of it is just redundant. Like, what is this:
Ye dude, of course it doesn't depend on the IR, because this is before IR is constructed. Are you just pretending to know how a compiler works? Wait, right, you are, you're a bot. The last sentence is also hilarious, my brother in christ, what, why is this in the README.
Now this evaluation only makes sense if the compiler actually works - which it doesn't. Looking at the filed issues there are glaring disqualifying problems (#177, #172, #171, #167, etc. etc. etc.). Like, those are not "oops, forgot something", those are "the code responsible for this is broken". Some of them look truly baffling, like how do you manage to get so many issues of the type "silently does something unexpected on error" when the code is IN RUST, which is explicitly designed to make those errors as hard as possible? Like I'm sorry, but the ones below? These are just "you did not even attempt to fulfill the assignment".
It's also not tested, it has no integration tests (even though the README says it does), which is plain unacceptable. And the unit tests that are there fail so lol, lmao.
It's worse than existing industry compilers and it doesn't offer anything interesting in terms of the implementation. If you're introducing your own IR and passes you have to have a good enough reason to not just target LLVM. Cranelift is... not great, but they at least have interesting design choices and offer quick unoptimized compilation. This? The only reason you'd write this is you were indeed a student learning compilers, in which case it'd be a very good experience. You'd probably learn why testing is important for the rest of your life at least.
I wonder if this is going to hold out long enough to get some obnoxious AI-first language created that is designed to have as obnoxiously picky of a compiler as it can in order to try and turn runtime errors that the model can't cope with into compile failures which it can silently retry until they're 'fixed'
The fact it doesn't have an assembler or linker, and I am doubting it implemented its own lexical analyzer, I almost struggle to call this a compiler.
The claim it is from scratch is misleading since it has all prior training from open source.
Building a small compiler for a simple language (C is pretty simple, especially older versions) is a common learning exercise and not difficult. This is very much another situation where "AI" created an over simplified version of something with hidden details on how it got there as a way to further push the propaganda that it is so capable.
Waiting for some promptfondler to complain that this kind of assignment is not really fair for an AI because it has actual requirements.
This could be regarded as a neat fun hack, if it wasn’t built by appropriating the entire world of open source software while also destroying the planet with obscene energy and resource consumption.
And not only do they do all that… it’s also presented by those who wish this to be the future of all software. But for that, a “neat fun hack” just isn’t enough.
Can LLMs produce software that kinda works? Sure, that’s not new. Just like LLMs can generate books with correct grammar inside, and vaguely about a given theme. But is such a book worth reading? No. And is this compiler worth using? Also no.
(And btw, this approach only works with an existing good compiler as “oracle”. So forget about doing that to create a new compiler for a new language. In addition, there’s certainly no other language with as many compilers as C, providing plenty of material for the training set.)
This shouldn't be left merely implied, the autoplag trained on GCC, clang, and every single poor undergrad who had to slap together a working C compiler for their compilers course and uploaded it to github, and "learnt" fuckall
@dovel @BlueMonday1984 https://steve-yegge.medium.com/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16dd04
did you have a point you wanted to make?
There seem to be a few people here now who just dump unrelated links without any explanation. (See also the one who just posted a dozen, which all seem to mention Trump). No idea what they are trying to do.
this, yeah
not everybody heard of gas town within first two weeks
Not one, but two utterly out of touch LWs trying to interact with culture.
Earlier today, woke Proust get slammed by some young 'un direct from college: https://awful.systems/post/7140871/10327823 (note that they can take time off to read Recherche, even going to the length of spending time in France, which tells me they don't really have to worry about getting a job or anything)
And now, someone tries to "explain" the perfectly spherical explosion at the end of the Akira movie with the fact that atom bombs in Japan really looked like that because humidity, utterly forgetting that the explosion in question was psychic/telekinetic and therefore probably follows its own damn rules on visual appearance
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pbChvM8xZnKmxaKAa/jackson-wagner-s-shortform?commentId=xjX85Kah6AQNsnHPg
I swear to fucking god both LW and HN have the worst takes on culture in general and SF/F in particular.
Imagining an LW enjoyer attempting to tackle Proust and getting straight armed into the Shadow Realm.
The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki made mushroom clouds.
In the Baker test at Bikini Atoll, the bomb was underwater, dimming the initial flash and making initial transient effects more visible.
slowmo shot of the last american nuclear test delivered by airdrop, it is spherical, but not because of condensation cloud (that moves away quickly and is transient anyway)
I think Dominic Housatonic developed into a mushroom cloud as it progressed (past the interval captured by the slowmo).
like any other, it can be even seen deforming in the last frames
Very impressed with this comment from the creator of the Zig programming language, regarding dealing with AI slop submissions, and generally about LLMs for coding.
I should look into Zig again! Technically, I've always leaned more towards Rust, because I like its more uncompromising approach to safety, while Zig always seemed to me a bit more middle-of-the-road on that. But I've been disappointed about how wide-spread LLM usage has become in Rust circles, I fear that its culture might tip over in favor of slop. (But it's not there yet and I hope it won't happen!)
Anyway, I'm ordering the "Introduction to Zig" book...
Wow, I also now found the migrating to codeberg post. I should revisit Zig.
And the correct policy regarding "AI", too. Viva Zig
I was taught to take off every Zig, not install them! Clearly it was a more innocent time.
Moltbook still going great. Even the enthusiasts are feeling that the shine may have worn off.
Turns out that combining unsecurable vibe-coded web services with unsecurable chatbots and combining them into an unmoderated public platform can be bad. Also, shrugging off problem reports with “i unno” is a bit of a bad look.
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How about just not creating the problem in the first place. How about that.
The people who are worried that Moltbook is where agents are gaining self-consciousness forgot the part of Accelerando where all the AIs were basically scammers (the Slug)
The real damning thing is the speed that the true believers abandoned this garbage fire. You used to be able to string these guys along for years, and now they can barely keep the trend going for a week. Gonna be real weird when the scammers realize they've finally burnt out all the good will.
@rook
Peter should go back to PDF manipulation libraries.
Quick PSA: Not by AI is made by AI bros to help their slop machines violate the commons more effieicntly
Freshly minted LWer does LLM-assisted analysis of LLM Facebook and concludes that the bots are conspiring to take over
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Et7dgiBjSj2zJnGuM/unicode-ekfv
No thought to the fact that (at least AFAIK) there's no verification that the posting entity is actually an LLM, and not a cheeky human stirring things up
Protos: Brock Pierce’s dark and disturbing friendship with Jeffrey Epstein
new odium symposium episode. this one is a lot lighter than the previous two. we went back and looked at joseph swetnam, the guy the word misogyny was coined to describe, and how he got relentlessly dunked on by his peers.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/9-first-149546072, or on any platform
Emails Show Even Epstein Thought Crypto Pumps are Unethical | Gizmodo
Crossover month for the epstein extended universe continues...
Continuing on the theme of nerds misreading culture, here's Asimov with abundant sour grapes about Nineteen Eighty-Four
https://www.newworker.org/ncptrory/1984.htm
Via HN, where no-one bothers commenting on the fact that the piece is hosted on a Marxist-Leninist, anti-revisionist website.
I don't think I disagree with much of what Asimov is saying here! Aside from the silly bits about left infighting and scifi as forecasting (yawn), and the horrible recount of the Spanish civil war, I've made pretty much the same observations about 1984. It's nihilistic and reactionary, it's profoundly misogynistic and it reeks of contempt for the working class. It's also shockingly naive and paradoxically enthusiastic about the workings and effectiveness of propaganda and censorship. There's certainly nothing prescient about it. It's baffling to me that it's still popular with leftleaning people to this day.
The most generous thing I can say is that the book might have been intended purely as satire, and as such it would at least be coherent. But sadly I don't think this is how people tend to read it.
There's a letter in the book of Asimov's correspondence that his brother edited where Asimov says that he'd been asked "How close are we to George Orwell's 1984?" again and again in the years leading up to 1984, to the point that he was sick of it and dreading the actual year 1984, when no one would ask him about anything else. I figure he had a lot of venom built up in his system that came out here.
He was also a veteran of science-fiction fan club drama, after which he worked in academia, so yeah, he knew sectarian in-fighting.
Sour indeed. There are some decent observations in there. He correctly notes that the book is dissing Stalinism specifically. Newspeak never became a real problem and superficially similar phenomena don't mean language is losing its expressive power. And yes, those depictions of working class people have more than a whiff of classism to them.
Then there's a lot of complaining about leftist infighting. It's pretty appropriate for this to be hosted on that site. It's only anti-revisionism if it comes from the Vanguard Party region of Marxism-Leninism, otherwise it's just sparkling sectarianism.
Better organized than the POUM, I'll give it that. "Won out" is an interesting choice of words to describe any republican faction in the Spanish civil war.
And then there's the cringe. No robots and computer? My stories have robots and computer because it's impossible for someone to always pay attention to spying a bunch of people. The panopticon doesn't work, actually, because even if at anytime someone could be watching you, they couldn't possibly be watching you all the time unless they have robots and computer. Also why isn't this dystopian society more feminist?
Orwell had Julia working in the novel factory - where machines spliced together romance trash pablum for light entertainment. So he accurately prophesied LLMs.
The thing is, the world in 1984 is feminist! as imagined by a bloke who hates feminism. Sex for pleasure is outlawed, makeup and dresses are banned, women look and act like men (and indeed are worse than men) instead of following their womanly nature. It's a feminist dystopia!
I mean, if god damned Asimov thinks your book is misogynistic, you know you've fucked up!
never heard of wokeness, i see
The whole federation loves nolto.social, an open source, federated alternative to linkedin! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the noto.social is vibe-coded
I’m confused that anyone thinks that the world needs another linkedin…
Lots of people in IT have been fired and must find a new job.
Honest question, since I’m not on linkedin (and kinda looking for a new job): does it really help anyone find a job? It has been my impression from the outside that it’s mostly empty drivel.
I think there might have been a golden age of recruitment on linked in, and it might have passed. A friend of mine has been a CTO at a couple of small places, and recruited a whole bunch of their employees via linkedin but now finds that there’s just too much genai bullshit now and it is becoming uneconomical to find real candidates there. The problem isn’t linkedin-specific, but I think it has been hit pretty had.
In ~9 months of searching, I've gotten to two second-round interviews out of dozens of applications to LinkedIn listings. Take that as you will.
Anecdata here, I've been unemployed 2 times in the last 3 years and both times I mostly used LinkedIn to look for leads. Had some ok comms with recruiters too .
Depends on where you are and what kind of jobs you're looking for but for computer janitoring like me it worked ok
Thanks everyone for the replies <3 Guess I should make an account there after all… bleeeh :/
I regard it simply as a place to park my resume, and periodically get emails about open positions I might want to apply for. I don't think I have ever read a post on the social side of it, and I certainly haven't posted there.
Requiem for a film-maker: Darren Aronofsky’s AI revolutionary war series is a horror | The Guardian
Too bad, I liked about half of his films, esp The Wrestler.
following up the previous thread about Eliezer in the Epstein files, he’s responded on reddit
EDIT: this sneer has been deemed important enough for its own post so feel free to sneer there too
Either deliberately whitewashing the situation or completely missing the point of why people are mad at Epstein, Yud really can't help himself.
edit: Or depending on the timeline and the fact that 'prison time for soliciting a 14 year old' was on top of Epstein's wiki as early a 2016 he's explicitly saying they didn't mind that part with 300k on the line.
Double-highlighting this choice bit:
Your periodic reminder that this man is considered a major influence by many of today's working venture capitalists
Lots of ‘this isn’t a big deal’ shrieking in that thread.
I might be crossing a line into conspiracy theory nut over here, but is it weird that both this and his response to the zizzian’s rape allegations have undertones of “i don’t know/im not completely sure”??
It's possible it just means the responses aren't vetted by a lawyer, and will be revised as neccessary.
Enjoy sneering at this LWer tackling Proust
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/j3ZtsYBYBcTTFXH5S/in-search-of-lost-time-a-review
Edit it has garnered one comment so far
You know what? I don't think Proust would have disagreed with having rats avoid his novel.
I feel like I just read someone reviewing Toccata and Fugue in D Minor by complaining that there's no upbeat sections and no overall chorus and the song isn't about anything, that we're just "tossed about on the storms of emotion that by the end we are all seasick to"
I liked the part where the reviewer is mysteriously compelled to visit France while reading this novel, which is notably set in France.
I happen to know there are multiple translations of the novel into English, and I'm confused as to why the reviewer refers to
which doesn't really mesh with anything here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search_of_Lost_Time#English-language_translations
Not that it matters much in the end.
I’d chalk it up to the LWer inability to a) summarise and/or summarise accurately, and/or b) LLM usage.
im gonna shit
oh no baby what are you doing
you ... mother ... fucker ... so not only did you manage to miss the fact that this is a gay book, you completely skipped past one if not the most important theme in the novel which is language and the way people talk and write and the various ways they conduct themselves in different times and places, but oh nothing happens it's just people talking aaaaaaaaaa
also this is a funny book! it's funny! it's not all maudlin meditations upon time and memory! fuck you!
I don't think the LWer even realised those themes were there. This whole review screams "failed high school English" to me.
yup this is pretty much what happens when you grind books for xp instead of actually reading them
Such a great description
The comment, see my prediction that when a movement runs out of idea they inevitably start a dating site for the in crowd, and 'lets do book summaries so we can all read faster'. Esp vague self help style places do this all the time.
First I heard of this.
I find it very funny to see worm listed among the other “long books everyone says they read but didn't” because I am 100% percent certain that literally noone outside of LW does that
How much do people actually "like to claim to have read" books, rather than saying they want to read more big books but never have the time?
I think the version of this that happens is mostly people making claims about a book they heard from somewhere. see: 1984
intellectual elite my arse.
Intellectual: e-lite, the mass produced promo type handed out with sherbet packets in primary school
eLite like the old Apple Newton eMate: transparent, limited functionality, not actually all that powerful
Username is one “t” off from being an anagram for enteritis
Axios publishes an ad for Anthropic. tptacek bravely defends a corporation from unimpressed fellow hackers
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46902909
Edit: tptacek implies that Ludic no longer stands behind Contra Ptacek's Terrible Article On AI, which I don't believe.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46906403
tptacek explains that the one armed bandit addiction loop is good actually:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46905142
Edit2: He took off to his Xafe space. Getting Mozilla Jake vibes. lol at tptacek calling it the orange site:
https://xcancel.com/tqbf/status/2019493645888462993
Has someone already done it or should I send the email? Ludic would be delighted I'm sure
I can do it, I have to email a bunch of stuff today anyway. (Edit: sent.)
Hero!
Here's a screenshot in case it vanishes:
They are organizing another Inkhaven in April, maybe because it brings in at least $80,000. I do not recommend committing to spend a month in the presence of our dear friends given their practice of allowing sexual, psychological, and substance abuse in their communities!
https://www.inkhaven.blog/
It does seem kind of vulnerable to a determined gonzo journalist, doesnt it?
I don't know if there has been any on-the-ground journalism about our dear friends except possibly the Zizian murders and some of the investigations into misogyny and sexual abuse. What reporter without a bankroll from EA has money to spend a few months in the Bay Area making friends with introverted bloggers?
One of the mentors at Inkhaven will be Jesse Singal who has said good things about pedophiles and KiwiFarms and is worried about so many young people identifying as trans. Does he have prior connections to eugenics or race pseudoscience? Pinkerite says he is Bluesky buddies with Razib Khan (one of the names RationalWiki can no longer mention).
YCombinator will let founders accept payments in butts:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46875033
pegged butts
heh heh
Hmm, we already tried the thing where a bunch of startups have their cash on deposit with a couple of normal, FDIC-insured banks that had grossly mismatched duration in their capital structures. I wonder how this will play out
"They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work"
In Great Depression 2 news...
Goldman Sachs taps Anthropic’s Claude to automate accounting, compliance roles:
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/06/anthropic-goldman-sachs-ai-model-accounting.html
Love the idea of having the plagiarism machine do compliance work. The computer takes care of everything!
AAaas: Arthur Anderson as a Service.
In other news, Larry Garfield of GarfieldTech has had enough of the bullshit fountains, and put out a fury-filled sneer in response.
Larry Garfield was ejected from Drupal nearly a decade ago without concrete accusations; at the time, I thought Dries was overreacting, likely because I was in technical disagreement with him, but now I'm more inclined to see Garfield as a misogynist who the community was correct to eject.
I did have a longpost on Lobsters responding to this rant, but here I just want to focus on one thing: Garfield has no solutions. His conclusion is that we should resent people who push or accept AI, and also that we might as well use coding agents:
He readily admitted as much when I asked him on mastodon about how to approach the subject with friends and family who are using the "it is what it is" rationalization. Then mentioned cult deprogramming research as something he's not as well versed in as he would like.
Make of that what you will/want
10/10 No notes.
Between this shit and the oncoming tech-inflicted recession, my wife and I are both reskilling out of tech. I'm looking into electrician and she's looking into accounting. Two fields that are, at least in theory, sufficiently motivated by accuracy and reality to be at least somewhat protected from the rise and fall of the confabulatron.
We'll see how it goes, but God if that "Burn in hell" doesn't just hit me right in the soul.
Good luck. There's a lack of trained electricians here in Sweden, which amazes me, it sounds like a decent job for someone with a technical bent and some handiness. Better than plumbing (no disrespect to plumbers, love them, but not the work I want to do)
there's a couple of amusing hells inside that job, you either have to deal with construction crews and contractors, jump between power poles including in cold and rain, wrangle with paperwork for permits for new lines, or fix horrors left by someone before you, it can be also dirty and people-facing
@gerikson @YourNetworkIsHaunted
You have to be a semi-contortionist to be a plumber.
Heckin yeah, are you going through a union?
I liked this takedown of METR's task horizon "research": https://arachnemag.substack.com/p/the-metr-graph-is-hot-garbage
In addition to all the complaints I already knew of and had, METR's methodology for human baselining of tasks was even worse than I realized.
And you know... I actually kind of respect METR relative to a lot of boosters and doomers for at least attempting any hard numbers and not just vibes and anecdotes (METR is the ones that did the study showing LLMs actually reduced coders productivity even as it made them think it increased). But the standard for quantifying LLM performance in practical terms is absurdly low.
i thought they were yet another rationalist offshoot
They absolutely are. I am just giving them a tiny bit of credit for at least attempting academic research on LLM performance. But only a tiny bit, as they blog post I link discusses, their methodology is really sloppy and not to the level of most academic research and wouldn't get through peer review of most decent journals.
that one METR graph was also a big part of the AI 2027 “prediction”
It was basically the only "empirical" (scare quotes well earned) data they actually used in their "model", even then, they decided exponential improvement wasn't good enough, they plugged it into a hyper-exponential model that went to infinity at just a few years regardless of the inputs.
yeah lmfao it was bad. I thoroughly enjoyed titotal’s takedown of that graph. I can’t believe the documentary versions of that paper on youtube have millions of views and people eating it up
Those comment sections are gonna be a joy when 2027 and 2028 roll around
recently learned about electrofuels. it's a hypothetical rube goldberg scheme where you put enough energy to propel 5-7 EVs in, and pull out enough gasoline to fuel one car. it's sold as a green technology, because now gasoline is green somehow. this spin ignores that it would require massive buildout of renewables + nuclear, and just by doing this electrification of many energy end uses just makes sense, including transportation. (what the fuck is train??) it's also sold as a long term storage for renewables, but i struggle to see how scheme that has less than 30% roundtrip efficiency can be considered "storage". just build more renewables and don't use them all if needed
::: spoiler cui bono? it's a complicated pr campaign by volkswagen group (and some other usual suspects). this is a nonexistent magic solution to a real problem, so it fits a common pattern (and also makes it stubsack material) that also attempts to shank electric vehicles adoption.
if anything, it's backwards because EVs are adopted faster than renewables buildout happens (cars last less than powerplants). if realized, this allows volkswagen group to manufacture regular cars for a long, long time even after oil refining stops. originally, it was proposed as a hypothetical luxury product for antique car owners, because it's physically possible, but doesn't make sense in energy or cost terms. but then someone spun it into potential regular retail good, and also maybe this pr campaign was a part of reason why internal combustion car ban was axed at eu level recently. now that it happened, they don't need to push it so hard
it is something ironic in there that last time this process made sense was in nazi germany, just this time source of syngas is different :::
If VW is trying to mainstream this, that tells me they're scrambling to keep milking the premium end of their portfolio that relies on extravagant IC engines (Porsche, Lamborghini, Audi etc.). Very bad sign for them, as the ID Buzz van looks to be a complete failure to the point of "pausing" production, and VW Commercial Vehicles is their backbone in Europe, much like Ford relies on truck sales in the US. I watched a video a few weeks ago that discussed how their European van/utility vehicle portfolio is aging and totally fragmented, to the point that they are selling rebadged Ford Transit vans manufactured in Turkey. I thought it was bad when they were badge-engineering Dodge Caravans for the US market for a few years, but totally bungling the EV van rollout in Europe is seriously bad business for them.
It was also hilarious how the rich guys on the Porsche forums were bad-mouthing the rather sexy Mission X EV supercar concept a couple years ago. No matter how cool a 9,000-rpm flat-six is, letting yourself be driven by the guys who just want you to keep making that forever will not stave off everyone else (now including China and Vietnam!).
i don't know if they started it. what i suspect as their contribution is bold claim that electrofuels might be cheaper than regular petrol in the glorious future, while currently they're much more expensive. (30x?) strict prerequisite for their competitiveness is cheap electricity, but at this point they're not needed. there was also Porsche owned wind power to methanol plant, and while methanol works as petrol replacement, all the plastics in contact with it must be resistant which is not a given. i guess the main value of it for them is propaganda, they're not ready for EV manufacture
Wait so they figured how to use renewable energy to create something that still generates emissions? Is this a ploy to get Trump on board with renewables?
the point is, as always, to continue doing business as usual (in this case, by inhibiting BEV adoption). that fuel is carbon-neutral but also extraordinarily wasteful. trump's deal is something called "clean coal", which isn't (it suggests carbon capture, but it's not a thing, they marketed normal emissions control like we have in europe as some unusually green innovation). i think he was also captured by gulf monarchies for the one hour when their representative talked to him
e: wait it still makes smog so checks out
So, the idea isn’t entirely as stupid as it initially sounds. There are two things that you gain from this approach:
FWIW, I suspect the cost will end up being even higher, because you’ll start losing the economies of scale that modern vehicle infrastructure has, because normal people will just use EVs.
It can only ever be an intermediate technology anyway. Artificial photosynthesis and more sophisticated fuel cells seem like much more plausible longer-term futures.
i think that business logic goes against your first point. spatially: if you have source of cheap energy and want to make money out of it, instead of making little money (by making fuel) why not make more money? (by setting there energy intensive manufacture) this seems to be current meta, with places like iceland and norway making aluminum and nitrogen fertilizers respectively. this can continue in other places and maybe extended to some other industries.
temporally (because there are also sunny and windy days when regular people won't consume all energy): this scheme requires cheap electricity, which is needed for cheap hydrogen. this requires massive renewables buildout, which means electricity is cheap for regular people, which means that every gas stove/heater and car will get replaced with electric ones, both residential and maybe perhaps faster for industrial users (more available loans). this means you have to reinforce transmission grid anyway. this also means cheap hydrogen, and because main input to its production is electricity, it makes more sense to use electricity when it's cheap. this means it's naturally suited to suck up all excess generation (both daily and seasonal), and also if electricity production is seasonal then so should be price of hydrogen. if price of electricity or hydrogen varies, then some industries can suck it up at greater rates when it's cheap. i'm thinking here of aluminum smelting (electricity input, daily variation, already done), or ammonia synthesis, or direct reduced iron smelting. i bet there's more. the point is, maybe you get to avoid storing hydrogen to some degree, because you can effectively store energy in finished or semi-finished goods. you can, for example, make some direct reduced iron and just store it when hydrogen is available, and then smelt it into steel in arc furnace when it's not. fertilizers are already sold in annual cycle and stored long term, and anyway ammonia is much easier to store than hydrogen. how it plays out will depend on energy/hydrogen costs vs storage costs vs capex for overcapacity costs. all together, i think this means that because of large amount of generation needed, you don't actually need to store energy this way at all, because when generation is low then electrolyzers turn off, and something will work at all times, probably. when you're able to do that, you won't need to
in terms of scale, first your lunch is eaten by EVs of various shapes, then by use of hydrogen for transportation (rocketry fits there), then you have to compete with biofuels (jet engine will take anything that burns without ash and can be pumped). then some of methanol will be used for fuel first, because it just works in engines and fuel cells, and it's a step before hydrocarbon synthesis. only then synthetic petroleum makes sense, this basically leaves some aviation (that won't use methanol) and military uses
Because now you have to establish a complex supply chain and potentially large worker base in a place that’s potentially quite inconvenient for both, instead of a much simpler supply chain and smaller workforce.
Well, not necessarily. Because as I said, there are places which are very sunny and/or windy which are also a long way away from the people and industries which would like to consume the power that could be produced there.
Long distance power transmission is an very expensive infrastructure to build, and unless you’re building even more expensive modern HVCD systems you can get significant transmissions losses to the point where your distant renewables aren’t really much good. If you can convert the power to something transportable, either on-site or nearby, then you can avoid the transmission losses and giant infrastructure projects.
Much as I do not like the oil industry, there is a significant amount of equipment and expertise out there for storing, transporting and converting flavours of hydrocarbons into other flavours. Some use could be made of it.
I’m not so sure about that. They’re a whole ecological catastrophe in and of themselves, and another cash crop that rich nations can extract from the poorer ones, ultimately to everyone’s detriment. They’re also going to be feeling the squeeze from climate change which is going to make them harder to grow economically as time goes on.
There might be a breakthrough ethanol-brewing algae which might suddenly change everything, but I don’t anyone has the bioengineering chops for that yet.
I strongly feel that hydrogen is even more of a dead-end technology than these e-fuels. It is a right pain to store and transport and has rubbish energy density. There’s no future in the hydrogen economy. I’d bet we’re more likely to jump to artificial photosynthesis and fancy fuel cells than we are to see any substantial hydrogen infrastructure.
i'm not sure why you think that it is the case. if you want to make aluminum, you just need a ship to come in and pile up alumina, then take up piled up aluminum. the process is decently automated these days and you avoid making hydrogen. if you want to make ammonia, then all you need is hydrogen that you use as soon as it's made and nitrogen which is separated from air on demand. nitrogen fertilizers account for something like 2% of global primary energy use so it's probably decently scalable. then you can ship out liquid pressurized ammonia, or convert it to ammonium nitrate which again you can pile up*. however with methanol you run into a Problem, because you need carbon dioxide, which means that you have to ship it from somewhere or capture in a massive installation. this immediately makes logistics of this entire enterprise harder. if you want to convert methanol to hydrocarbons then it takes some extra energy for little benefit (2x energy density) and some losses. to some degree, maybe it will make sense, but maybe it'll be easier to just build up renewables where people already live
in that scenario biofuels get to serve much smaller segment than today in the first place so maybe it's less of a problem. there are also things like biogas
and you base that on what exactly other than vibes? there are applications where you need hydrogen directly as a reagent like ammonia synthesis, and these are probably most adaptable to this approach. methane is also proper PITA in terms of storage, yet we store it anyway because it's cheap as a fuel. if hydrogen is cheaper than that, then it will be used where applicable. it's easier to transport coal than electricity but not lignite; i don't know how it will play out with hydrogen, but either way you can imagine a situation where hydrogen is generated onsite, or within pipeline distance, and used immediately or maybe with some storage worth hours to days. this fits iron smelting (DRI) nicely, today the fuel used for it is methane because it's cheapest (process common in India). if hydrogen is cheaper than that, it will be used instead. other than that, applications where high heat is needed and where no electric heating can be used would be another use of hydrogen, like glassmaking and metal objects manufacture. hydrogen might be not disastrously bad option as fuel for transportation, because every step in manufacturing other fuels introduces losses; there are other tradeoffs
what do you want to fuel these fuel cells with? hydrogen is simplest option and most efficient (60% roundtrip efficiency or so). artificial photosynthesis is not a thing currently and strictly worse than combination of any energy source + conventional electrolyzer, because you have to combine not within single device but within single material something that will work as both. this also is only applicable to solar, not to wind or nuclear. some of these direct light to hydrogen schemes also only use UV only, and hydrogen is mixed with oxygen which is suboptimal, not to mention that main output of that work seems to be grant applications, while both electrolyzers and solar panels or wind turbines are available today, in bulk, straight from factory, and even more efficiently in decarbonization terms, these can replace coal-based electricity generation
regardless, main value of electrofuels today is in propaganda
* regular process starting from gas has carbon dioxide as a byproduct, so urea is another option, but with hydrogen it would have to be provided. it's more expensive even today. maybe liquefied gas carrier could provide carbon dioxide and load ammonia on return leg, with some other dry cargo ship picking up that urea at some other time
Some suggestion here that notbyai.fyi is an ai industry op: https://social.treehouse.systems/@imbl/115978426251286619
Seems plausible. Notbyai seems pretty keen on ai, and is very relaxed about what counts as “not by ai”, and adds up to a scheme whereby you pay a pro-ai techbro a monthly subscription to advertise to ai firms that your website is ideal for scraping training data from.
Called it, 2 years ago: https://lobste.rs/c/fhob3x
actually didn't call, had forgotten all about it
"Amazon plunges 9%, continues Big Tech’s $1 trillion wipeout as AI bubble fears ignite sell-off"
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/06/ai-sell-off-stocks-amazon-oracle.html
@mirrorwitch @BlueMonday1984
What a shame
#FFFO
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/feb/05/amazon-pulls-melania-from-cinema-after-owners-criticism-as-rumours-mount-over-fake-ticket-sales
https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-white-house-ballroom-is-being-bankrolled-by-genocide-and-ice-profiteers/
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/world/europe/icc-judges-us-sanctions-trump.html
https://www.axios.com/2026/01/20/amazon-prices-trump-tariffs-andy-jassy-davos
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/28/business/media/amazon-melania-trump-film-critics.html
https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/01/business/melania-box-office-amazon
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/20/amazon-jassy-trump-tariffs-prices-shoppers.html
https://variety.com/2025/digital/news/jeff-bezos-washington-post-defends-trump-demolition-white-house-east-wing-ballroom-1236561444/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/03/trump-ballroom-donors-contracts-enforcement/
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4962902-billionaires-2024-election-bezos-musk/
"Fund a Fascist and Find Out"
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/tech/tech-leaders-supported-trump-lost-money-dg
https://www.commondreams.org/news/amazon-tax-breaks
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/jan/27/neil-young-gifts-music-greenland-removes-from-amazon-over-trump
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/23/trump-inauguration-donors-include-meta-amazon-target-delta-ford.html
https://www.wsj.com/business/trumps-tax-law-sharply-cuts-amazons-corporate-tax-bill-ee94ac24
Boycott these too
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/apple-google-trump-white-house-ballroom-donors-21118578.php
Someone has a program to steal people’s entire codebases using malicious ai coding assistant extensions.
https://www.koi.ai/blog/maliciouscorgi-the-cute-looking-ai-extensions-leaking-code-from-1-5-million-developers
(note, it is an ai firm posting this, compete with cutesy slop hero image)
The vscode extensions actually do exactly what they advertise, it’s just that they also take all your code and share it with a third party for whatever purpose.
Found a quality sneer aimed at a vibe-coder sysadmin: https://nullrouted.space/2026/02/05/sysadmin-in-the-llm-age/
more fodder for my theory that LLMs are a way to cash on the artificial isolation caused by the erosion of any real community in late stage capitalism (or to put it more simply, the "AI" is a maladaptative solution to the problem of not having friends)
The suspicion that notbyai.fyi was in fact a pro-ai techbro highlighting scrapable data has prompted comment from the founder: https://mastodon.social/@notbyai/116004178899556722
…which seems like a load of cobblers. Imbl brings the receipts: https://social.treehouse.systems/@imbl/116014455337112737
I’ll assume the argument will devolve into weasel words over what “ai bro” and “ai design agency” will mean, and I suspect the conclusion will be that actually he’s working for and with ai bros, with an interest in selling ai bro-related services to further the goals of ai bros in general, but somehow that wont’t be precisely the same thing.
did that imbl thread get locked? I get 404 on it
Looks like they zapped it. Possibly unhappy that it was being spread.
Anyway, the gist of it is:
The don’t just do that, so it’s ok guys!
This is the first time I have ever seen the term "AI design agency," which raises some yellow flags
Hacking Moltbook: The AI Social Network Any Human Can Control
Opus 4.6 is More Corn (ft. Dr Weird and Steve)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6TMOMTtAMBI
for a second i thought we were talking about the audio codec and got mildly interested but no