Spyke
sh.itjust.works

Ok, so psychopaths marry psychopaths. In other news: rain still wet.

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lemmy.world

I heard of anecdote of a guy who worked as waiter for the rich in a luxury yacht. He said pretty much what rich people ever talk about is building more wealth. These people are psychopaths. They see life as material transactions.

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not all, but most rich people are constantly obsessed with positioning themselves versus their peers in business and family. its how the untalented keep score.

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lemmy.world

This seemed a little sus to me so I checked the dictionary. Merriam-Webster says wet can mean consisting of liquid such as water. (See 1a of screen capture).

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Lodespawnreply
aussie.zone

Also if two water molecules are next to each other then are they not making each other wet?

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That was actually what my initial response was going to be! Then I checked the definition and saw it wasn’t even necessary to argue at the molecular level.

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andros_rexreply
lemmy.world

Hydrogen bonding with just any molecule they bump into. Those promiscuous polar particles.

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Their so corrosive to the bonds of those around them, if only they'd think of other more

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Wet is used as a synonym for rain in my local dialect. The endless flexibility of english is amazing. Noun that verb! Adjectivize all the words!

Just don’t put colour before size in your stack of adjectives or everyone cringes, for some reason.

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Jessicareply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Water makes it self wet? The other definitions and reasoning is plausible. Water makes water wet? Stoner ideas?

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athatetreply
lemmy.zip

I’m just tired of people arguing that weter isn’t wet when it’s right there in the name.

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There are a number of things that are wetter than water. So yeah, it's wet, but it's not the epitome of wetness.

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Well, telling someone to shut the fuck up is quite rude, and definitely an overreaction. You need to touch grass.

Also, what is weter?

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sh.itjust.works

This news is being posted as if everyone thought she was attracted to his personality

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

I genuinely think she was. To psychopaths, everyone is transactionally of limited use. I think in him she genuinely saw and identified someone like herself. And if something had happened to her. Charlie would have 100% done the same as her. They aren't well.

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Triumphreply
fedia.io

She's happier now, I'm sure, because he's more useful to her dead than he was alive. There's a transaction for ya.

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

Eh... he was a fair target for mockery and it's not like his death changed any minds for the better... Charlie the martyr is far worse than Charlie the living douche.

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I think the less hate spread actively, the better. Its a drop in a bucket, but a light rain is better than a heavy downpour.

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MAGAs don't do martyrs well because they're all psychopaths, and can't maintain the pretense of caring enough to keep someone's legacy alive.

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lemmy.world

Wait till you see how fast Melania moves on and profits from Donny’s death. She might set a land speed record.

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lemmy.world

Melania tacitly admitted during her husband's first term that she is a trophy wife and married Donald for money. When asked if she married Donald for the money, she responded "he wouldn't marry me if I'm not beautiful".

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D_Creply
sh.itjust.works

(Disclaimer: she's only talking about physical beauty. She's as ugly as the devils haemorrhoids on the inside)

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Wildmimicreply
anarchist.nexus

I also have to add that she doesn't really look attractive too - the Mar-a-Lago face is a super ugly trend

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Eh, I think she's fine on that front, whatever procedures she has had are a bit lighter.

She doesn't have the over the top saw-face like others in the circle that have basically mutilated themselves with ill-advised procedures.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Once he is dead, all of those creditors he doged will be fighting each other to pick the corpse clean. She will probably be shredded in the feeding frenzy.

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Most of the money he's borrowed over the last couple decades links back to Russian Oligarchs so they will likely right it off as a business expense.

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That is just the classic Phyllis Schafly playbook - making a career out of telling women they shouldn’t have careers.

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lemmy.ca

We are somehow surprised a shitty person had a shitty wife? There are plenty of dynamic asshole duos.

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On the trigger, not looking at where it's pointing, and what's she going to do, is that her resting pose, just going to hold it out there all day long.

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lemmy.today

Should surprise no one since she obviously didn't marry him for his looks or personality.

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lemmy.world

Since not even his wife seems to care, can they just stop reporting? Some podcaster got shot a while ago, a lot of people get shot all the time.

Kids get shot, ICE shoots people who the fuck cares about this guy?

Why was this ever big news?

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They immediately used his death to try to argue that trans people are all domestic terrorists, and organized witch hunts to get people fired for making comments (often targeting professors that were on TPUSA’s hit list). There is a good chance that the Trump regime will cite the shooting as evidence that trans people should be viewed as terrorists.

I think it also really exemplifies the “reality show” - iffication of right wing American politics. The president is a reality TV star, Dr Oz is administering Medicare, Hegseth was a news personality; Erika Kirk is just an opportunistic vulture like the rest. The kind of person who spends their life trying to get on Big Brother or Survivor so that they can make a career out of partying and socializing.

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aussie.zone

As much as they are both (all 3 actually) are horrible people, there's nothing nefarious in her not grieving how people want her to.

Perhaps she doesn't care. Perhaps she does, but sees an opportunity and can suck it up. Perhaps she does and she is using work to distract herself. Perhaps she does and it comes out differently. Perhaps she does and shes good at acting like nothing is wrong.

It's all just a distraction story.

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fizzlereply
quokk.au

In some ways I completely agree.

Its absolutely possible for someone who loves their husband to appear happy after they suddenly pass away.

However, the pivot to capture the TP USA business is a conscious one, and it definitely feels pretty gross to anyone who understands that it is indeed a business.

The thing is, to people receptive to their message, its not a "business", its a cause or a movement. They can just say "Charlie would have wanted her to continue his work!"

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

Yes but even if it is a conscious decision and she doesn't or didn't care about him, there's nothing illegal about it. It's just unseemly. She should be able to do as she pleases, no different to any other awful grifter. It's not really news. It's gossip.

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It's not a matter of illegal, it's a matter of how much of a grift it is. Celebrating merch sales about your husband's death is just sociopath level.

It matters in the context of this movement trying to play like they gave a shit about this man for the sake of sympathy when even his own widow clearly cared about engagement and merchandise than his actual death.

Admittedly, not that newsworthy because most of the world has stopped thinking about him, but TPUSA is still rolling and still riding that martyrdom angle.

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Nah the Trump administration hitched their wagon to the Kirks so her unseemly behavior is newsworthy IMO.

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lemmy.world

I mostly agree with you, but I don't think this is just a distraction story. The more interesting thing is the rift forming between MAGA influencers. Candace Owens clearly has beef with Erika Kirk.

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Owens seems to lash out against everyone when she feels she isn't getting her due. That's a problem normally, but she seems to have outlived her usefulness to them. She's been sidelined in that crowd for a while now, and only really makes the news over crazy shit

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I'll never be rich or famous, and I'm a member of a group these folks actively stoke hate towards. But I'll say this, when I die, I know my wife will actually be sad about not having me anymore. That's something a lot of these folks can't honestly say

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Obviously it's only hosted on Twitter: https://x.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/2016323405125963895

It's not as bad and the title makes it sound. She talks about the memorial service and having millions of people hear the gospel and stories about Kirk. She's not giggling about the assassination. She's a grifter, obviously, but this audio is not the bombshell Owens says it is.

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My husband's dead. Like, I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead.

She should put that on a t-shirt.

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To be fair, if I was that asshole's spouse and learned he'd just been shot, I'd have been pretty happy myself.

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lemmy.ca

Eleven. days. later - I’m, like, more traumatized from seeing that snuff video then his own wife was.

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sploderreply
lemmy.world

I saw it accidentally and it legit fucked me up even though I hate the fuckin bastard. My ocd latched onto it hard and it replays in my mind at 2am 😅😵‍💫

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I hate him too. It’s not even that though. You couldn’t not see that video. His wife went on a money making, fireworks widow tour. Which was obscene. I saw a video of her putting in fake tears before getting onstage. These people are psycho. She’s a realty tv star, no wonder she’s being elevated.

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MojoMcJojoreply
lemmy.world

That is PTSD, or part of it. Go for a walk, bring someone with you, and talk to them about it. Ask them to just listen. Do that regularly. Maybe every Sunday at first. It's not a cure, but it helps more than you would expect. If you don't have someone, go by yourself and talk to yourself about it, out loud. Best of luck.

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The first night it happened I puked from the panic of not being able to stop it. I have talked to my husband about it a few times so he’s aware of what I’m going through and it has helped lessen the fear of it. It definitely helps to talk about it. I also started a small dose of Prozac for my ocd which has helped, too. Thank you for your comment and tips, I will try that as well ❤️

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Correction, for her it was the event of a century. For me it was a Sunday on my 22nd wedding anniversary, and spent all morning having fun in bed with my wife because I am not dead

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lemmy.world

Don't worry, Erika. People will forget about you and your idiot husband soon enough.

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Achreply
lemmy.world

No.

Remember them forever. Rememer them the same way we remember Hitler, and for the same reason.

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bampopreply
lemmy.world

I think he'll be remembered the same way we remember Horst Wessel. Much less memorable than Hitler.

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lemmy.zip

Yeah, more like my memory of an itchy rash I once had on my ball bag.

Horst Wessel

More like Horst Carotid-Vessel

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She is so weird. First time I saw and heard her I was like: There is something wrong with this woman.

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infosec.pub

Not surprising. I recall when she “forgave” and every media outlet and commentator was like “this is wonderful, healing and what we all need to do!”

Why are so many folks so dumb in recognizing charlatans? We need education just for this. Know when you’re being played!

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I'm becoming increasingly of the opinion that some groups of people care more about the packaging than the message.

As long as a person says the right kinds of things, is of the right pedigree, or has the right support and/or accolades, they can get away with damn near anything.

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Is this a way to put her back in the spotlight? If republicans have thought me anything it is that ridiculous rage baits are fair game for getting online interaction.

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This is a worthless story consisting entirely of peoples reactions in social media. What a waste of internet.

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lemmy.today

If she's actually a Christian and believes in Christianity 100 percent, she would believe her dead husband is now in heaven. Why would she be sad about that if she really believes? She also has kids. Is she supposed to be sad and mope around all the time? Would it be better for her kids if she constantly was crying and not talking to anyone and staying in her room all day? Should she have thrown herself on a pyre after?

It's fine to be critical of this woman for disagreeing with her political views, but it's outrageous and gross for criticizing how she responds to her husband's death. Some people like to put on a happy face in public and we have no idea what she is going through in private.

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Why would she be sad about that if she really believes?

Because her loved one is no longer on Earth where she can live her life with him? My mom is 1000% a believer, and she was still an absolute wreck when my dad died, when my tia died, and when my brother died. Her only comfort is that "they're in heaven", but it did little to lessen the blow because she genuinely loved these people in her life, and now they're just gone.

Erika eagerly jumped into the spotlight right after her husband was murdered, and has been happily riding the wave of new fame/attention. I'm not sure if you've ever lost someone that close to you, but there's no way I could've pulled myself together enough to do that after my dad or brother died - much less if it was my life partner.

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Dipperreply
thelemmy.club

If all we were talking about was her being happy again, you'd be 100% correct. But there is a difference between moving on versus giggling at her husband's murder less than four months after his body is put in the ground. Public or private, that's a level of moving on that simply insults her husband's memory.

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was she laughing at his death or whatever the fuck event of the century is?

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

No amount of Christianity faiths away grief. Whatever you may sincerely think in your mind, you will feel the weight of the loss

Neither do folks necessarily expects a widow or widower to be wholly consumed by grief, and maybe even after 11 days be able to normally engage with normal life, though as far as my experience has been, such a traumatic death tends to impact people longer...

However, it is difficult to imagine such a cheerful, at ease demeanor in the context of discussing the memorial, and celebrating how awesome the 'merch' did. But let's go and give the benefit of the doubt and say that a person with almost a couple weeks under their belt can at least distract themselves by pretending this is just another event and distancing their mind from the reality that it has to do with the spouse's death. Except then due to some context I don't know she seems to be concerned about infighting, and says he's dead now and get over it as a reason to stop whatever infighting she was concerned about.

So she wasn't acting like someone who found enough strength and comfort in her faith to carry on in a functional capacity in spite of the trauma. She wasn't acting like someone who was distracting herself from the situation. She was a person at ease and excited about engagement and merchandising, with perhaps a bit of impatience for people that need to be told to get over it, he's dead.

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She has kids. Maybe she is actually such a good mom she's trying to hold it together for them. To me, it's crazy people are judging this woman... She's the mom who is choosing to keep being happy after something awful happened to her, showing her kids how to keep the faith and keep carrying on. I don't agree with her policies or religious views, but everyone being judgmental of her is shocking to me.

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Should she have thrown herself on a pyre after?

It wouldn't have to be after. Anytime would be fine.

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programming.dev

All these stories amount to "wow, she's not grieving like I think she should!"

Who gives a fuck. What a bizarre fixation on a widow's reaction.

She believes in the Christian God and most people making this point probably don't. So no shit she's not going to grieve the same way. She didn't really lose him in her mind. It's just temporary.

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

I didn't know a single person whose faith caused them to feel like the loss of a loved one is no big deal. They may say that in their mind, but it hurts all the same

But maybe 11 days is enough to be a bit more collected in general, but the context is off-putting. Even thinking about revenue and merch sales during something akin to your spouse's funeral seems like a sociopath. I've heard people who had absolutely moved on and normal day to day get choked up at a one year memorial when they were faced with discussing a close friend. To be directly talking about a memorial for your husband less than two weeks after his death without missing a beat, and sincerely at complete ease, not merely trying to put up a brave front... That's not the reaction of someone that actually cared.

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I don't have that faith any more, but I used to be devout and associated almost exclusively with religious people. When I work as a missionary, my life focused only on God and church work, the prospect of dying didn't feel significant to me. It was unfortunate, like getting ill, but nothing dire. It actually made it difficult for me to sympathize when I was helping comfort people who had a loss in their family. It led me to thinking that most people don't actually believe their loved ones are going to a better place or that they're going to see them again. Their grief is closer to how I would react to irrevocable loss.

In short, I've learned that people grieve a lot differently than I do. I don't think it proves people care about someone more just because they're constantly bawling and inconsolable.

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