I wonder how many Americans are going to realize that there really isn't that big of a difference between Russia invading Ukraine and the US invading Venezuela.
Oh right, they also kidnapped its head of state. And they were upfront about it being for their own gain.
The only difference is that the US was way more successful. It's literally identical to what Putin tried with Zelenskyy in the opening days of the Russo-Ukraine war.
Unfortunately, I think most Americans would lose a memory contest against a goldfish, so they can't recognize the parallels.
Both deserve the cudgel, with the difference that the russian populace actually risk something if they protest, but the american populace is so silent on this you can hear the crickets.
LOL, Russia brutality crushes protest and America doesn't. Point Russia? You guys are hilarious.
The reality in America is a bit more complicated. There are two kinds of protests, those that are pointless and easily brushed aside, and those that might actually achieve something.
America sets up "free speech zones" and a whole myriad of laws to make sure the second kind of protest is always illegal, and it has no problem using brutality to shut them down.
Protest in America is almost always performative and relatively pointless. What matters is political activism and educating and energizing voters. That's the only thing that has ever made a difference in the US. For protest to be effective at all it has to move voters, but opportunities to do that with corporate media pushing back are rare.
this 100%. i've been shot by rubber bullets on 6 separate occasions as the police made protective circles around nazis to make them safe. even at those free speach zones, bring everything you need to diffuse riot control equipment just in case things get weird because they just well might.
our militarized police forces LOVE kettling people, beating them, and pepper spraying them. come prepared even if you think the protest you're going to is safe
::: spoiler text
HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR AMERICANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.
:::
Imma be honest... It's hard to argue with this one.
Americans (i would type it your way but my autocorrect) like to have their cake and eat it too. We typically say, "We don't agree with this thing" when somewhere around 50% of the country or more agrees with that thing.
There's a really old episode of South Park called I'm a Little Bit Country about the Iraq war and the dichotomy of political groups. Conservatives and proggressives realize they are giving eachother cover.
Even though America always seems to do the worst thing in the world at the time, there are so many people in the country who audibly and visually don't like it, that they get to feel like it's being done to THEM as well.
We Americans are both the perpetrators and the victims! We are powerless, but our voices matter! It's all a part of the golden handcuff package that keeps most people comfortable enough to do nothing.
This comic was drawn before this happened, I think.
How is this related? The comic is about the international reaction towards Americans and Russians, not the domestic government reaction to protesters against these things.
I am genuinely baffled. This is completely unrelated to the point of the comic or to it being possible to cross-post from Hexbear.
I think there are multiple ways of reading that comic, seeing the mixed vote reaction.
It could be seen as a tankie post about muricans still having more freedom of speech vs russians. Thats how I saw it, because it was crossposted from tankie-land.
It could be seen as a tankie post about muricans still having more freedom of speech vs russians. Thats how I saw it, because it was crossposted from tankie-land.
OK, so you read the comment completely, objectively wrong (the truncheon says "visa ban" on it, visa bans are imposed by other countries) because you turned off your ability to connect basic concepts when you saw the "tankie-land" word.
if you're american seeking to flee now even if you yourself are not in danger, you are participating in a neoliberal colonial project. stay and help your vulnerable neighbors. you will do more to help venezuela and queer people by staying put, getting active, and studying groups like the zapatistas than you can by going to a future vassal state
I wonder how many Americans are going to realize that there really isn't that big of a difference between Russia invading Ukraine and the US invading Venezuela.
Oh right, they also kidnapped its head of state. And they were upfront about it being for their own gain.
many Americans aren't smart enough to form a thought they didn't get from Fox news.
ftfy
If we're talking about the internet.
The only difference is that the US was way more successful. It's literally identical to what Putin tried with Zelenskyy in the opening days of the Russo-Ukraine war.
Unfortunately, I think most Americans would lose a memory contest against a goldfish, so they can't recognize the parallels.
Both deserve the cudgel, with the difference that the russian populace actually risk something if they protest, but the american populace is so silent on this you can hear the crickets.
this really smugged my ideology
LOL, Russia brutality crushes protest and America doesn't. Point Russia? You guys are hilarious.
The reality in America is a bit more complicated. There are two kinds of protests, those that are pointless and easily brushed aside, and those that might actually achieve something.
America sets up "free speech zones" and a whole myriad of laws to make sure the second kind of protest is always illegal, and it has no problem using brutality to shut them down.
Protest in America is almost always performative and relatively pointless. What matters is political activism and educating and energizing voters. That's the only thing that has ever made a difference in the US. For protest to be effective at all it has to move voters, but opportunities to do that with corporate media pushing back are rare.
this 100%. i've been shot by rubber bullets on 6 separate occasions as the police made protective circles around nazis to make them safe. even at those free speach zones, bring everything you need to diffuse riot control equipment just in case things get weird because they just well might.
our militarized police forces LOVE kettling people, beating them, and pepper spraying them. come prepared even if you think the protest you're going to is safe
Me when i see americans:
::: spoiler text HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR AMERICANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE. :::
Don't forget sanctions
Imma be honest... It's hard to argue with this one.
Americans (i would type it your way but my autocorrect) like to have their cake and eat it too. We typically say, "We don't agree with this thing" when somewhere around 50% of the country or more agrees with that thing.
There's a really old episode of South Park called I'm a Little Bit Country about the Iraq war and the dichotomy of political groups. Conservatives and proggressives realize they are giving eachother cover.
Even though America always seems to do the worst thing in the world at the time, there are so many people in the country who audibly and visually don't like it, that they get to feel like it's being done to THEM as well.
We Americans are both the perpetrators and the victims! We are powerless, but our voices matter! It's all a part of the golden handcuff package that keeps most people comfortable enough to do nothing.
Yeah, I do wish all imperialist countries were punished more on the world stage.
So they can still crosspost from hexbear!
It's gonna get rough for the libs 😈
More leftists on leftymemes?! 🤯🤯🤯
You say that as if it's a bad thing :p
Well, yes. otherwise the upper right panel would have an ICE van in it with some unidentifiable incels…
What do you mean by this, lmao?
https://lemmy.world/post/41256115
I am genuinely baffled. This is completely unrelated to the point of the comic or to it being possible to cross-post from Hexbear.
I think there are multiple ways of reading that comic, seeing the mixed vote reaction.
It could be seen as a tankie post about muricans still having more freedom of speech vs russians. Thats how I saw it, because it was crossposted from tankie-land.
OK, so you read the comment completely, objectively wrong (the truncheon says "visa ban" on it, visa bans are imposed by other countries) because you turned off your ability to connect basic concepts when you saw the "tankie-land" word.
As much as I hate American imperialism, it does make for good memes.
some context for the bottom row https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/12/16/exiled-russian-accused-of-spying-on-opposition-including-navalny-movement https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2025/11/04/russian-pro-democracy-activist-detained-in-poland-admits-to-working-for-fsb-en-news
tldr openrussia didn't learn that there's no such thing as former fsb agent, and now there are consequences
if you're american seeking to flee now even if you yourself are not in danger, you are participating in a neoliberal colonial project. stay and help your vulnerable neighbors. you will do more to help venezuela and queer people by staying put, getting active, and studying groups like the zapatistas than you can by going to a future vassal state