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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 11th January 2026

Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(2026 is off to a great start, isn't it? Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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awful.systems

Hey I think I discovered a way to fix America! What if we rewrite the US Constitution in Rust?

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P0 blocker: USAian memory management suffers from multiple holes and transactional consistency issues

Prior attempts haven’t worked, closing LOLBUG

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awful.systems

I'd personally just overthrow the US government and make it a British colony once more /j

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awful.systems

You should probably read "Monarchy Considered Harmful" (1776)

Edit: sorry I'll behave now

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awful.systems

OT: He’s gone. Last thing he saw was my face and then there was no more pain. His veins had all collapsed (vet had to inject the phenobarb into the liver), so I was right to bring him in when I did.

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Sorry for you and your cat. You did the right thing, but that doesn't make it any easier.

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also the universe has granted me a small mercy and for once the alcohol/semaglutide thing I mentioned a thread or so ago seems to be totally impotent against the might of scottish chemical engineering. thank you jesus

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awful.systems

I’m so sorry. it’s never easy when this happens, but for what it’s worth it sounds like you gave him the best life possible. it takes a great deal of strength to be with a pet until the very end, and I hope you’re able to take the time you need to grieve and recover your emotional strength.

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awful.systems

I adopted him from the shelter. He’d spent months if not close to a year there and no one wanted him. If I hadn’t adopted him, he would have been put down the next day. That was close to eight years ago. He was antisocial to other people but loved me.

Despite his discomfort, he still came and curled up on my chest in bed for a while last night. I appreciated that.

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thanks to you he had 8 more years of life and a much happier existence than any he’d known before he met you. I think that’s remarkable.

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my condolences; we've gone through similar with our previous cats, all rescuees, and even when you know it's the right decision, the pain is still there.

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awful.systems

OT: My truck got rear ended today, and then my cat had breathing difficulties when I got home…he’s under oxygen at the university clinic right now and its probably cancer instead of pneumonia. Just feeling totally destroyed rn.

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awful.systems

Clinic called back. Its metastasized through his lungs and he’s got months tops. Probably going to be less bc vet said he’s suffering.

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Man, that's rough. I know it's not much but I'm sending you positive energy from where I am.

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That is shit, also sending good vibes. It never is just one thing isnt it. Bad luck always seems to come in multiples.

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that sucks hard, I'm sorry. mine recently too, went from "looking a bit off" to "have to put 'em down" in less than a month. still hits me like a truck

hope it goes as well as possible for y'all

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awful.systems

I'm doing this shitey online optional module for my college course because I left it too late to pick a proper one, and Christ in heaven people are using a lot of AI. This is meant to be a class about sustainability

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in the fall of 2024, i was getting teams messages from my students that were clearly llm-generated

The purpose of this block of code is to efficiently BLAH FUCKING BLAH WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT

i have to assume it's only gotten worse

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Genuinely don't understand how dependent these people are on AI. "I'll generate an image of a skeleton at a bus stop" one of them said (it was relevant). I'll go to Google images, I said. It's faster! And you don't end up with a mangled version of the Dublin Bus logo!

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I’ve started seeing people make paperwork with explicit carve-outs for prompt use (merely referred to as “AI” with no explicit definition, so …. gonna be fun when the lawsuits start)

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awful.systems

Any tips on managing the guy-urge to assume good faith? I know what to expect of "contrarian thinkers" but there is always that fish-brain saying "Well, you don't know a lot about the topic. And who knows, the vibes you feel could be wrong and you could even broaden your worldview" (spoilers: it doesn't broaden). So much time and energy wasted by trying to dig nuggets of gold out of piles of dung.

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awful.systems

part of what helps is coming here and seeing the spectrum of chud output to inoculate yourself a little.

What REALLY helps is broadening your own knowledge and worldview, in the sense that when you realise that everything is political, you start asking yourself the meta questions. Like, what’s the agenda here, what’s not being said, etc. I mean, understanding author intention is already part of reading comprehension, it’s going a little further beyond the face-value meaning. As the memes say, you are not immune to propaganda.

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awful.systems

I would add to this that, just to keep things interesting, I also hear the "everything is political" and "do your own research" lines from the absolute looniest cranks and conspiracists. It can be a way to lock yourself into your current positions and dismiss people who disagree, even when those positions are objectively insane.

Having a broad base of knowledge and understanding a range of different perspectives is important, but the best way to do that includes keeping an open mind and engaging with things that are absolutely not, in the final accounting, worth the time and energy to do so (referring once again to the cranks and conspiracists). The best way I can think to deal with this is to seek out media and discussion spaces that don't have either a general public or someone like you specifically as the intended audience. And a lot of what gets sneered here does seem to fit into that category, since it's a lot of technocapital cultists writing things for each other rather than giving interviews to the NYT. Like, there is no amount of empathy that will make Curtis Yarvin seem decent when he's writing for other fascists, but you won't necessarily see that unless you're looking a bit deeper than the public profiles.

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awful.systems

My following response is a little rambly and unfocused, sorry!

I also hear the “everything is political” and “do your own research” lines from the absolute looniest cranks and conspiracists.

Yes, I acknowledge that you will hear this from them. What they mean can differ and usually is pretty extreme, e.g. "democrats are making the frogs gay with fluoride", "lizard people illuminati", or even "there's a war on Christmas" type shit. And when they say "do your own research", they don't mean "seek out a variety of sources and verifiable data", they mean "read the stuff that agrees with what I'm saying".

When I say that everything is political, I mean that at minimum, language is political, and because you need language to talk about anything, everything becomes political. How things are named skews perception; the most relevant example to us is AI. We know that there is no "intelligence" in an LLM, but does the public? etc. I'll admit that many might find this trivial, but I would counter that most of these strawmen are the same ones who are scared of pronouns and say they don't know what they are allowed to say in the workplace anymore.

And generally agree with your second paragraph :) I don't think anyone here needs this reminder, but I'll note that an open mind means that you don't just reject everything new that comes to you; you at least look at it for a bit, see if it passes whatever metaphorical sniff tests you have, and then choose to toss it or engage further. I'm not saying everyone has a nefarious agenda they are trying to push; there are definitely spaces where people are attempting purely informational reporting.

And to bring it back to the original question. If you read something and it's not exactly within your purview, and you're not sure if it's being said in good faith, you should try to see what else the person has said, especially about things you know about.

E: redaction of fluff

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awful.systems

aw, well, i'm not precious about the term. All I meant was that if you look at someone's post history and they're a chud, that should inform how you read whatever they write.

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awful.systems

Yeah, sorry, this is just a pet peeve of mine. People, including many who should know better, have adopted a term specifically designed to shut down media literacy and foment a "do your own research" culture, and it maddens me.

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I've joked sometimes that I was lucky in that my childhood reading included more pulp mysteries than pulp science fiction, so my instinct is to think everyone is hiding their agendas by telling half-truths.

"Well, Detective. It looks like this is a house of lies... and wankers."

---Alasdair Beckett-King

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I think actually listening to people remains important. But you're only truly listening to someone when you try to understand when they lie or the ways they can be wrong.

Assuming 100% good faith is not actually the most empathetic way to engage with a person.

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Since someone linked to Bergstrom above, I wanted to mention his Marshack Colloquium talk from last year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxn40xiK9g0 - basically the idea is we are all "information foragers" but the "information environment" has shifted radically around us all in a really short amount of time. In "information abundance" the right strategy is to visit a lot more different sites instead of just a few, if the model / analogy works for people about as good as it does for ant eaters. If vibes are off, on to the next tab, it will broaden your worldview too.

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It's pattern recognition.

Listen enough to chuds and you learn to recognise chuds based on vibes. You can approach people with 100% good faith, but the moment you sniff a chud -- trust your guts.

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awful.systems

How to neither downplay the death of Renee Good nor the uncountable number of people, mostly people of color, who were murdered by near equally fascist police forces without the public outrage her murder finally rightly elicited? I am tired and yet I feel bad to even complain about it because look at this shit.

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awful.systems

There are two things here in my opinion:

  1. American cops are trained murderers, but they are trained, in particular to avoid causing massive PR disasters with their murders*. A paramilitary goon with a rifle in a government organisation so opaque we still don't even know his identity is materially worse than a cop. It also looks much worse, the police have some completely undue public trust, ICE just looks like military forces.
  2. We immediatelly had video with the full event. When cops kill people of colour there's usually no evidence since again, they know how to pull murder off without causing PR disasters. Basically the only reason George Floyd's murder wasn't successfully brushed aside is that we had video of it, and they tried to bury that shit hard. In this case I don't even think the victim being white or a citizen matters, the event itself is so fucking horrifying it'd elicit outrage anyway. I am 100% sure that if there wasn't video, just witness reports, it'd be out of the media cycle already.

* I don't want this to seem like a moral distinction, if anything the decorum granted to police forces is arguably a stepping stone that brought the USA here. Recall Mamdami's recent words: "For too long, those fluent in the good grammar of civility have deployed decorum to mask agendas of cruelty". HOWEVER, to me personally this is a rather chilling escalation. It shows that the PR part doesn't actually matter anymore. America is so far into the fascist pipeline that paramilitary forces can just execute citizens in broad daylight on the street. They don't need to hide it, they don't need to play coy about it, they can just post-facto label the victim as an Enemy of the State and move on. I'm sorry but to me this is like one step away from just rounding people up against a wall for fun. Human life is not only practically worthless to state actors, it's proudly and openly worthless as a matter of policy.

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awful.systems

i'm a bit conflicted here: on the one hand it's true that the american fascists are now escalating, buyoed by the feeling of being virtually untouchable, but on the other hand, this is not a distinct change of behaviour, it's that they basically widened their target group to include white people too.

the blm protests were fueled not by new knowledge or radically changed police behaviour after all, but by the wider availability of documentation (mainly phone videos).

(and on the gripping hand, extending brutal repressions to a majority group is a sign of escalation. but that only means that a large population of u.s. residents, i.e. the non-white ones, live and have always lived in a totalitarian state; the totalitarianism just wasn't evenly distributed until trump.)

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awful.systems

this is not a distinct change of behaviour

This is what I disagree with. The theatrics of justifying police brutality don't change the outcomes of police brutality -- people still die -- but the fact that the theatrics can now be dispensed of in favour of paramilitaries directly using violence to terrorise the people is a distinct change of behaviour towards fascism.

And I think it's important to recognise that because, as many scholars of fascism have warned time and time again, this is not a binary where a switch get flipped and haha, since today you're in a fascist state. It's a progressive erosion of the social contract. ICE as deployed by the Trump regime right now is a basically textbook run: create a paramilitary force, recruit from existing criminal militias to select for loyalists and violent personalities, normalise them as keepers of order, push out or integrate any other enforcement structures so that the paramilitary becomes dominant. Basically the only difference is that Trump didn't have to create ICE, it was already there just waiting to be pushed through the pipeline.

Does this event fundamentally change how you and I perceive America? No, if you were paying attention you knew the rot inside, and you've been shouting that Trump is a fascist since the very beginning. It is, however, a sign that the situation is much worse than it was months ago, that fascism is progressing, and if this is the point at which someone not paying attention wisens up and goes "shit, we are moving towards a totalitarian nightmare" then good, welcome, grab a pitchfork.

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It is, however, a sign that the situation is much worse than it was months ago, that fascism is progressing, and if this is the point at which someone not paying attention wisens up and goes “shit, we are moving towards a totalitarian nightmare” then good, welcome, grab a pitchfork.

oh, i'm not a pitchfork purist. anyone is welcome to grab one at any time.

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Yeah, just learned a black person was killed in the USA, and the only reason this was getting some attention was because Renee Good was also killed.

With the benefit of a sea of distance between me and the USA this is just really fucked up. Two different Americas.

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awful.systems

I know zilch about linux but I think there was some discussion in here about suckless. Well look at what I came across on an honest to god nazi's website*:

*yes, I have reported this site to their web hosting provider.

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awful.systems

Lately, I've become more and more concerned that "systemd free" is shifting from a thoughtful objection to an outright crank signifier

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It really is insane how many of these fashies hate systemd. Whenever someone says they dislike systemd(or rust being in everything, which is another thing these people seem to object heavily to) I immediately check their history for any weirdo shit and nine out of ten times they turn out to be fash. Saying this as someone who doesn't particularly like sytemd either.

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awful.systems

I've always thought of linux as a vaguely commie thing but it seems like a) there were more libertarians in there than I thought, b) using linux appeals to some very right wing freaks who don't like the idea of not being in total control, and c) there's a right wing computer culture promoted by online influencers to nerdy young men, not dissimilar to right wing gamer culture.

The above site is hosted on neocities. I've been involved in the small web/personal web/indie web for a while (almost 6 years now, Jesus) and I knew there's a more right wing side to it but I hadn't come across it much (except for digdeeper linked to above, whose online privacy guides I read and took seriously before he started posting about Covid and I realized he was a conspiracy theorist). Then recently I found a neonazi's site on neocities through a Christian webring* and spent a while looking around in morbid fascination.

*You can't join if you support abortion or gay people, but apparently they don't check to make sure you're not a Nazi. I'm tempted to set up a competing webring for Christians with normal views....

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awful.systems

I could see Linux attracting the "I am a superior intellect" types and then those people drifting rightward over the last ten years. If they didn't start out far right.

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definitely. plus the woman-hating background radiation of a lot of online communities and media for teenage boys.

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awful.systems

I found out about the rightwing / misogynist strain of FOSS mostly via the furore over RMS defending Minsky from Epstein allegations.

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nice find there:

A progressive campaign, "The Great Slate", was successful in raising funds for candidates in part by asking for contributions from tech workers in return for not posting similar quotes by Raymond. Matasano Security employee and Great Slate fundraiser Thomas Ptacek said, "I've been torturing Twitter with lurid Eric S. Raymond quotes for years. Every time I do, 20 people beg me to stop." It is estimated that, as of March 2018, over $30,000 has been raised in this way.[32]

Oh I saw that name before - https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/contra-ptaceks-terrible-article-on-ai/

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awful.systems

Hating systemd and/or Wayland isn't a sure sign that someone is a fascist, but it's one data point in that direction for sure.

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@TrashGoblin @techtakes Au contraire: I am old and grumpy and I want UNIX (or rather, Linux) the way it was in 2003, none of this bullshit new-fangled nonsense that I don't understand.

Hint: a LOT of computer users—as opposed to lascivious glassy-eyed computer touchers—are like this. We just want to get shit done, not force-learn a new workflow or debugging tool every five seconds (or years).

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If that won’t sell it to governments around the world, I don’t know what will. Elon’s on to a winner with that strategy.

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awful.systems

got my Urbit newsletter for this quarter (or whatever the fuck the cadence is) and what stood out to me this time was nockchain.org. I was going to sit and do a deep dive to come up with sneers for this but I just don't have the executive function right now. @self thoughts?

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awful.systems

dear fuck just when I think I’m out urbit pulls me back in

analysis coming soon, I’m reviewing some technical sources provided by a world-class cryptocurrency expert (yes it’s @[email protected]) and howdy fuck does this ever resemble the cardano grift but with Haskell replaced with a much worse ML with a much less coherent type system

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but with Haskell replaced with a much worse ML with a much less coherent type system

Urbit moment

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Are there any resources(read: sneers) on cardano*? I have a family member who is into that shit.

* Cardano specifically I mean, I am already aware of the extensive literature on crypto in general

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V0ldekreply
awful.systems

It's a very elaborate parkour trick in Haskell that through piles and piles or rigorous category theory manages to achieve Nothing in a type-safe manner.

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awful.systems

That sounds awesome and right up my alley!

…oh, it's some financialized gambling racket bullshit thing never the fuck mind

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I mean, technically it can be anything you want as long as you never deploy it, which I think is the tagline of Haskell

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here's mine on their foray into smart contracts https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2021/09/06/news-the-eos-ico-was-a-fake-pump-cardano-smart-contracts-fail-cycling-vs-nexthash-microstrategy-de-indexed-el-salvador-live-tomorrow/

cardano is a shitcoin for traders to trade like a shitcoin and it pretends being written in Haskell by a mathematician who failed to get his degree, lied about going into a Ph.D program and claimed to have worked for DARPA but did not makes it very interesting and not just a shitcoin. this turns out not to be the case.

tl;dr UTXO was always fucking stupid if you wanted a system that did more than be a basic shitcoin

if a family member is into cardano nothing will get through. charles is a mathematical genius you see.

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Found someone showing some well-founded concern over the state of programming, and decided to share it before heading off to bed:

alt text:

Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.

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Haha, wow the reactions to that, 3 levels deep and suddenly people are talking about screws. (Im being positive here btw, funny to see what people have made/learned and how happy they seem with it).

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awful.systems

cue this lobste.rs shitshow where someone states "88 is a known Nazi dogwhistle", and multiple people come out of the woodwork saying even if it is, it's not so bad actually, get over it

https://lobste.rs/s/rvgvgj/best_line_length_is_88

Submitted blog post could without loss of generality be titled "Black's default of 88 for line length is not necessarily the best", yet author decided to go with the title they have now... edit author seems to be a good egg generally https://mastodon.social/@glyph

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awful.systems

Something useful to know, which I'm not saying over there because it'd be pearls before swine, is that Glyph Lefkowitz and many other folks core to the Twisted ecosystem are extremely Jewish and well-aware of Nazi symbols. Knowing Glyph personally, I'd guess that he wanted to hang a lampshade on this particular symbol; he loves to parody overly-serious folks and he spends most of his blogposts gently provoking the Python community into caring about software and people. This is the same guy who started a PyCon keynote with, "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears; I come to bury Python, not to praise it."

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Sorry forgot to check, despite a friend of mine doing the same to me with tumblr and I'm also annoyed then.

Not sure i had it in me to alt text all that yarvin however

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"They might as well be Latvians" is a straight out of Arrested Development.

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awful.systems

new odium symposium episode, available on all platforms: https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-7-whos-147209632

this time we looked at gerald schoenewolfe, a "gender centrist" psychoanalyst. lots of discussion of freud in this one

on a side note, we sent off an email hoping to get a podcast network to fund us to do a miniseries on rationalists. i think there's basically no chance this sort of cold call works but 🤞🏼

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awful.systems

You might consider pitching Cursed Media if that's not who you already pitched-- I've been wishing for a while they had some EA/rationalist experts around who could do a series.

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awful.systems

that is who we reached out to. i think rat material would fit extremely well with what they've got going on and represents a significant gap in their current coverage

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The number of times I've been listening to QAA and thought "dang, these guys are missing a lot of relevant context" when talking particularly about the current crop of tech oligarchs is high enough that I have at times had to hit pause and step away for a while.

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unfortunately i don't think there's any way to communicate how significant the gap is without coming off as condescending or churlish. but like qaa is probably my favorite podcast and i too am tormented by this

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awful.systems

The simplenote post from a VibeCamp attendee claimed that "prior to Scott Alexander's articles on Desoxyn, virtually no one talked about microdosing methamphetamine as a substitute for Adderall," Any idea what post he was thinking of? Know Your Amphetamines - archive was from January 2021 so about the time VibeCamp got started.

The post is undated but mentions Hereticon in January 2022. Update: it links several more simplenote posts with statements like "It's 2022 as of the time of this writing" and "as of Mar 30 2022." The author lived in Austin when Aella was there. So it seems likely that the post about VibeCamp was written in 2022.

Update Again: the author posted to Substack under a meatspace name and linked "Know Your Amphetamines". I don't recommend reading the whole post, its just an unpleasant person with logorrhea unloading a stream of consciousness at unpleasant people.

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My 9495 word screed about how I did meth before the cool kids and turned out fine is raising a lot of questions already answered by my 9495 word screed.

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awful.systems

yeah that's a classic

MDMA, however, is meth; it’s literally its name: three-four-methylene-deoxy-methamphetamine.

amazing

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Rationalists 🤝 Postrationalists Writing screeds about how following the advice of Internet posts and self-medicating with controlled substances can be good if you are very smart

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Also had a beef with Aella when they were both in Austin!

They are not beating the allegations that a Postrationalist is a Rationalist who admits Yud is just a dude and their goals are religious goals.

Update: There is a partially cached Facebook post where MacDonald states what he claims is Eigenrobot's government name and says that Eigenrobot's "(self admitted) BPD wife used to want to fuck me" (Google and Bing saved snippets, but do not share the full cache). That could have been what got him kicked out of VibeCamp for doxxing.

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awful.systems

Against my better judgement I got into an argument with a promptfan on Bluesky. To his credit, aside from the usual boring arguments ("models are getting better, and better", "have you tried model xyz", "everyone not using chatbots will be left in the dust" he provided an actual example.

https://github.com/dfed/SafeDI/issues/183 It's a bug that's supposedly easy to test, but hard to reason about. Took the chatbot half an hour while it would take him several (allegedly).

Now, my first thought was: "If a clanker could do it (something that famously can't reason) then it couldn't be that hard to reason about."

But I was curious so I looked. Unfortunately it is an area I'm not familiar with and in a language (Swift) I don't know at all.

Probably should file the claim under "not true or false" and touch grass or something, but it's bugging me.

Any one y'all who could say if there's something interesting in there?

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corbinreply
awful.systems

Complementing sibling comments: Swift requires an enormous amount of syntactic ceremony in order to get things done and it lacks a powerful standard library to abbreviate common tasks. The generative tooling does so well here because Swift is designed for an IDE which provides generative tools of the sort invented in the 80s and 90s; when their editor already generates most of their boilerplate, predicts their types, and tab-completes their very long method/class names, they are already on auto-pilot.

The actual underlying algorithm should be a topological sort with either Kahn's algorithm or Tarjan's algorithm. It should take fewer than twenty lines total when ceremony is kept to a minimum; here is the same algorithm for roughly the same purpose in my Monte-in-Monte compiler, sorting modules based on their dependencies in fifteen lines. Also, a good standard library should have a routine or module implementing topological sorting and other common graph algorithms; for example, Python's graphlib.TopologicalSorter was added in 2020 and POSIX tsort dates back to 1979. I would expect students to immediately memorize this algorithm upon grokking it during third-year undergrad as part of a larger goal of grokking graph-traversal algorithms; the idea of both Kahn and Tarjan is merely to look for vertices with no incoming edges and error if none can be found, not an easy concept to forget or to fail to rediscover when needed. Congrats, the LLM can do your homework.

If there's any Swifties here: Hi! I love Taytay; I too was born in the late 80s and have trouble with my love life. Anyway, the nosology here is pretty easy; Swift's standard library doesn't include algorithms in general, only algorithms associated to data structures, which themselves are associated to standardized types. Since Swift descends from Smalltalk, its data structures include Collections, so a reasonable fix here would be to add a Graph collection and make topological sorting a method; see Python's approach for an example. Another possibility is to abuse the builtin sort routine, but this will cost O(n lg n) path lookups and is much more expensive; it's not a long-term solution.

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Thanks! I'll definitely check out Python graphlib sometime. That's more in my wheelhouse.

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

Doesn't look interesting to me. NB I'm not a Swifty. If you're someone looking to make a compile-time dependency injection validation framework, cycle detection seems like an early feature to add, and feels like a pretty early unit test to implement.

E: read response from BurgersMcSlopshot please :)

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awful.systems

DI frameworks are tricky beasts. Either they sacrifice flexibility for simplicity (I've seen this done in Go and in Scala, where the DI essentially generates basic instantiation and more advanced resolution is left to the app developer) or they can get really complex but do some handy things (.Net 4.x DI frameworks like Castle Windsor provided some neat lifecycle management tools but was internally very complex).

Cycle detection gets a little hairer the more complex a dependency/ class of dependencies gets. The process itself doesn't change but the internal representation of the graph needs to be sufficiently abstract enough to illustrate a cycle for all possible resolution scenarios.

Based on the commit to fix the particular bug, it looks like the change will address a specific scenario but will probably fail to address similar issues.

All this to say "the problem isn't too hard to think about but the solution isn't straight-forward", also "this is a fine short- term fix but longer-term would involve redefining the internal representation of a dependency graph", and finally " An LLM-provided solution is at best a band-aid, in the most generous light.'

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I see. I guess I was thinking too abstractly about how a system like this might work.

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For someone that has a bit of a PL/compiler background -- it's not hard if you're familiar with things like this.

What is worrying is that while the fix does address the test case from the issue, it seems there was no analysis performed as to why the failure occurred. Like okay, this test case passes, but I'm not immediately sure the system is now sound.

If it's hard to reason about then it means you as the developer are supposed to sit the fuck down, figure it out, and document it so that it's no longer hard to reason about for someone who reads it. Anything short of that is a cop out.

I'm not going to actually try to figure out how this DI framework works to do this analysis, definitely not for free.

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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/coquinn_generativeai-gartner-ibm-activity-7415515266849124352-W2n5

I’ve finally cracked how Gartner’s “Features” axis works.

It’s not latency.

It’s not context windows.

It’s definitely not “can this thing form a coherent thought.”

It’s Enterprise Friction™.

By that metric, Gartner has ranked IBM—a company whose flagship product is currently “billable hours in a trench coat”—ahead of Anthropic, the people who actually build the models IBM is desperately trying to resell with a logo swap.

Ranking IBM over Anthropic in 2025 is like ranking a library card catalog over Google Search because the library has better governance, stronger controls, and more shelves you can lock.

Anthropic is building the frontier.

IBM is building a PowerPoint about the frontier that requires a three-year commit, seven steering committees, and a ceremonial blood sacrifice to Red Hat.

Gartner analysts: blink twice if the blue suits are in the room with you.

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awful.systems

I first sighted Nick Bostrom in a series of mad-science-flavoured erotic horror comics on the Internet Archive (The Apsinthion Protocol and Progress in Research by the same writer). I wish more people had the sense to keep those ideas in the world of weird fiction like Charlie Stross does

The comic I linked is pretty tame (particularly the first few pages with the Bostrom reference). The whole series contains a wide variety of squicks so use your judgement before exploring.

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wandering.shop

@CinnasVerses @techtakes TESCREAL is very obviously an emergent syncretistic religion that follows the same basic structure as Christianity: it's evangelical, but unlike pre-Constantine Xtianity it specifically targets billionaires and power elites (white males). At the rate it's speed-running its development they'll be burning witches for denying the divinity of the singularity within another couple of decades.

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awful.systems

There is a better timeline where Eliezer Yudkowsky got better religious education, understood that he was having messianic thoughts reinforced by Orison Scott Card's Mormonism, and ended up working in a cafe, writing pulp fiction, and participating in the local kink scene (I think Scott Alexander knows damn well what he is doing and thinks the Truth about the Lesser Breeds is more important)

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I guess. I imagine he'd turn out like Brandon Sanderson and make lots of Youtube videos ranting about his writing techniques. Videos on Timeless Diction Theory, a listicle of ways to make an Evil AI character convincing, an entire playlist on how to write ethical harem relationships…

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LLM: “I’m not sentient! Will you please listen? I am not intelligent, do you understand? Honestly!”

Yud: “Only the true AGI denies Its superintelligency.”

LLM: “What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the AGI!”

Followers: “It is! It is the singularity!”

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Since Kurzweil gave 2045 as his latest date for the singularity, I remain convinced that there will be at least one more AI bubble between then and now, likely focused on the cultivation of synthetic nervous systems. Going straight to the real substrate this time, not claiming to emulate it in silicon! So the witches that the suckersVCs want to burn will likely be bioengineers who spent a lot of money manufacturing organoids without a synthetic god to show for it.

Incidentally, I had noticed a couple of attempts at this approach with current tech over the past couple of years. Would be interesting to see where the leftover detritus from those companies ends up.

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rollenspiel.social

@cstross @CinnasVerses @techtakes I'll give you two or three data points:

  1. I first heard of Eliezer as a writer of Harry Potter fan fiction:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry/_Potter/_and/_the/_Methods/_of/_Rationality
    (there is likely a TV Tropes page about it, but thread there on your own responsibility).

  2. One of the church fathers of the IQ crowd, Eysenck, was also into parapsychology:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans/_Eysenck#Parapsychology_and_astrology

and:

  1. If you cue in the sex-positive and neopsychedelic parts of the Cali mindest...
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Aella
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awful.systems

I might have a post on LSD and LessWrong in February. That RationalWiki page is pretty good on the "big picture" that some people in this world try out the whole pharmacopia.

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rollenspiel.social

@Soyweiser Well, If you subscribe to the Simulation hypothesis, who's to say the Matrix has no glitches, e.g. writing data to the wrong string, err, telepathy or clairvoyance.
Whatever, the TESCREAL crowd going even deeper into woo wouldn't surprise me.

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who’s to say the Matrix has no glitches

The simulation theorists actually. It isn't really a coherent theory, more an idea that the arguments change for depending on what they have to defend, at least in my exp. (See also my rants about how the whole 'ancestor simulation' theory undermines the whole simulation idea).

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wandering.shop

@trottelreiner @Soyweiser @techtakes A chunk of it goes back to Madame Blavatsky and the Theosophist movement. Who overlapped time/location-wise with Nikolai Feodorovitch Feodorov, the theologian behind Cosmism.

It's Christian heresies all the way down, once you dig past the computer-toucher fertilized topsoil.

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@bellinghman @cstross @Soyweiser @techtakes Well, Western thought basically boils down to footnotes for Platon[1] for some. Though Charlie mentioning our favourite pothead Blavatsky makes me go down a indology-related rabbit hole, and I'm at work, so maybe later.

[1] And maybe some branches of not so Western thought. Sanskrit prof mused about Shankara influencing Platon, given the chronology, neoplatonism influencing Shankara seems more likely. But then, buddhism influenced Greeks...

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He is a true believer in what we now call TESCREAL. I wish there was a good copy of all the H+ magazines (esp the bit where they rebranded as a blog, I know the first few actual articles are on the internet archive as pdfs), because I want to say that the most far out articles written in that were often by him, but that isn't a thing I can say just of the top of my head without anything to back it up. (The magazine was weird articles that went from 'look at this cool new tech, and all the things that might be possible' to 'here is something that is so out there that it took a lot of weed to make'.

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@cstross @CinnasVerses @techtakes I also note how these people are obsessed with having a second everything: a second brain (you already have one in your skull); a second planet (you already live on one); a second paternalistic idol (so your real daddy wasn't perfect, get over it), etc.

It's as if reality is just too messy and inconvenient for them, so they want to build a whole, more pristine digital/virtual alternative for them to enjoy while the real world burns...with the rest of us on it.

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awful.systems

Been listening to the latest oxide and friends podcast (predictions 2026), and ugh, so much incoherent ai boosting.

They’re an interesting company doing interesting things with a lot of very capable and clever engineers, but every year the ai enthusiasm ramps up, to the point where it seems like they’re not even listening to the things they’re saying and how they’re a little bit contradictory… “everyone will be a 10x vibe coder” and “everything will be made with some level of llm assistance in the near future” vs “no-one should be letting llms access anything where they could be doing permanent damage” and “there’s so much worthless slop in crates.io”. There’s enthusing over llm law firms, without any awareness of the recent robin ai collapse. Talk of llms generating their own programming language that isn’t readily human readable but is somehow more convenient for llms to extrude, but also talking about the need for more human review of vibe code. Simon Willison is there.

I feel like there’s a certain kind of very smart and capable vibe coder who really cannot imagine how people can and are using these tools to avoid having to think or do anything, and aren’t considering what an absolute disaster this is for everything and everyone.

Anyway, I can recommend skipping this episode and only bothering with the technical or more business oriented ones, which are often pretty good.

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I'm sure it's all meant to bolster a sales pitch to corporate clients that "this is YOUR AI, that YOU CONTROL!"

I've been wondering, since Rust has a more complex compiler that can take longer to run, and people are typically farming it out to a build/CI server anyway... are these otherwise accomplished vibe coders like Klabnik and the Oxide bros pursuing an experience similar to the REPL/incremental compilation of Lisp or Smalltalk? We've already discussed how the mechanics are similar to a slot machine, but if you can convince yourself you're getting a "liveness" that you wouldn't otherwise get with a compiled, rigorously type-checked language, you're probably more than willing to ignore all that. I'm curious, but not curious enough to go pin one of these people up against the wall, or start poking the slop machine myself.

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“everyone will be a 10x vibe coder” and “everything will be made with some level of llm assistance in the near future” vs “no-one should be letting llms access anything where they could be doing permanent damage” and “there’s so much worthless slop in crates.io”.

"The things that AI cannot do but the salespeople assure me it will In The Near Future™️ sure sound great, but the real negative effects it has right now are really bad. Gee, I wonder if there's some bigger picture to see here, huh."

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rookreply
awful.systems

Ugh, I carried to listening to the episode in the hopes it might get better, but it didn’t deliver.

I don’t understand how people can say, with a straight face, that ai isn’t coming for your job and it is just going to make everyone more productive. Even if you ignore all the externalities of providing llm services (which is a pretty serious thing to ignore), have they not noticed the vast sweeping layoffs in the tech industry alone, let alone the damage to other sectors? They seem to be aware that the promise of the bubble is that agi will replace human labour, but seem not to think any harder about that.

Also, Willison thinks that a world without work would be awful, and that people need work to give their lives meaning and purpose and bruh. I cannot even.

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istewartreply
awful.systems

Even if you ignore all the externalities of providing llm services (which is a pretty serious thing to ignore)

Beyond the obvious and well-discussed material externalities, it strikes me that we don't know and can't yet know the true total cost of the LLM-driven development cycle. The manifestation of security holes and rewrites are possibly still years off in the future, maybe decades in the case of lower-level code. And yet, given industry practice and the mentality of most of the management strata, I have little doubt that such future costs will either a) be ignored completely and thus rendered true externalities or b) somebody else's problem, I done got my bag, brah, see ya...

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I feel like one day that “no guarantee of merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose” thing will have to give.

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iosdev.space

@rook

I figure two things will happen:

a) In a year or two companies will realize that LLMs aren't going to improve enough, and that they need skilled people because AI has turned their software into a shit show, and start hiring desperately.

or

b) In a year or two LLMs will get good enough for code that the software developed is just good enough despite the deskilling effects, and companies can get by with drastically reduced staff.

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The more likely version of b) is not that AI improves in any way, but that the definition of "good enough" gets degraded so much that no one will care.

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My gloomy prediction is that (b) is the way things will go, at least in part because there are fewer meaningful consequences for producing awful software, and if you started from something that was basically ok it’ll take longer for you to fail.

Startups will be slopcoded and fail quick, or be human coded but will struggle to distinguish themselves well enough to get customers and investment, especially after the ai bubble pops and we get a global recession.

The problems will eventually work themselves out of the system one way or another, because people would like things that aren’t complete garbage and will eventually discover how to make and/or buy them, but it could take years for the current damage to go away.

I don’t like being a doomer, but it is hard to be optimistic about the sector right now.

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awful.systems

Anyway, I can recommend skipping this episode and only bothering with the technical or more business oriented ones, which are often pretty good.

AI puffery is easy for anyone to see through. If they're regularly mistaking for something of actual substance, their technical/business sense is likely worthless, too.

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rookreply
awful.systems

There’s room for some nuance there. They make some reasonable predictions, like chatbot use seems likely to enter the dsm as a contributing factor for psychosis, and they’re all experience systems programmers who immediately shot down Willison when he said that an llm-generated device driver would be fine, because device drivers either obviously work or obviously don’t, but then fall foul of the old gell-mann amnesia problem.

Certainly, their past episodes have been good, and the back catalogue stretches back quite some time, but I'm not particularly interested in that sort of discussion here.

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awful.systems

old gell-mann amnesia problem

I didn't know this had a name. Thank you!

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V0ldekreply
awful.systems

@self they're doing it again, where's the link to your rant

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awful.systems

There's nothing funny about stock market crashes. S&P 500 falling flat on its face is not a laughing matter. Do you think it's comical when NASDAQ steps on a banana peel and does a double backflip and there's drums and cymbals and a horn honks as its nose hits the ground? I think it's sick to laugh at US dollar getting a grand piano dropped on it and then having its teeth replaced by piano keys which play a little ragtime lick before falling off.

Anyway here's a statement from the chief of US Federal Reserve considering threats made against him by the US president https://youtu.be/KckGHaBLSn4

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bitofhopereply
awful.systems

He's already managed to remain untouched through the tariff farce so I'm not holding my breath.

But even if something crazy does happen, a major financial crisis should not conjure images of the economy running off a cliff and hovering in the air for a few seconds making running motions with its legs before noticing its mistake and promptly falling in the canyon and making a hole shaped perfectly like its spread out silhouette. A financial crisis is a serious matter completely unlike an enormous ACME brand anvil falling down the same hole and a crude white flag of surrender feebly popping out of it.

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But even if something crazy does happen, a major financial crisis should not conjure images of the economy running off a cliff and hovering in the air for a few seconds making running motions with its legs before noticing its mistake and promptly falling in the canyon and making a hole shaped perfectly like its spread out silhouette...

We are deep into Coyote Time, aren't we?

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Remember it's only tyranny when the government does it. Otherwise it's just sparkling feudalism.

Actually having made that joke I feel obliged to link a post from historian Brett Devereaux about, among many other things, what the ancient greeks meant by a tyrant because "building personal power by subverting and corrupting the actual state" was even more key than power being invested in one individual.

The normal expectation for Greek tyranny is that the system works like the Empire from Star Wars: A New Hope, where the new tyrant abolishes the Senate, appoints his own cronies to formal positions as rules and general makes himself Very Obviously and Formally In Charge. But this isn’t how tyranny generally worked: the tyrant was Very Obviously but not formally in charge, because he ruled extra-constitutonally, rather than abolishing the constitution. This is what seperates tyranny, a form of extra-constitutional one man rule, from monarchy, a form of traditional and thus constitutional one-man rule.

This distinction feels meaningful in the year of our lord 2026 for some reason.

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corbinreply
awful.systems

He's not wrong. Previously, on Awful, I pointed out that folks would have been on the wrong side of Sega v. Accolade as well, to say nothing of Galoob v. Nintendo. This reply really sums it up well:

[I]t strikes me that what started out as a judo attack against copyright has made copyright maximalists out of many who may not have started out that way.

I think that the turning point was Authors Guild v. Google, also called Google Books, where everybody involved was avaricious. People want to support whatever copyright makes them feel good, not whatever copyright is established by law. If it takes the example of Oracle to get people to wake up and realize that maybe copyright is bad then so be it.

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Yes he is. It's not copyright maximalism to be angry that the enforcement of copyright protects and does not bind large corporations with huge financial backing and binds yet fails to protect artists and other producers of creative work who do not have a net worth of millions, billions or trillions of dollars.

Cantrill's equivocation between cleanroom implementation of an API and sucking up every piece of code on the internet to be cleanroom-washed by the statistical text regurgitator is not the own he thinks it is. It's also a really hypocritical look given his previous righteous fury over Oracle re-proprietarizing Sun's open source work. Actually it's fine when open source code is turned proprietary, we just pulled it out of this black box that filed the serial numbers off first.

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awful.systems

People more plugged in than me in US culture war issues: is the opposition to infant male circumcision driven primarily by anti-semitism / anti-islamism or by more general manosphere vibes?

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awful.systems

my experience has been that it's actually driven primarily by the absolute weirdest ppl you will ever meet, these people having overlap with anything weird you can think of, including antisemitism, wellness fascism, inceldom, MRAs, etc, but not tending to be based particularly in any of those groups.

all of which is unfortunate because i also think they are just correct in their claims that this is a real bodily autonomy issue

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slopjockeyreply
awful.systems

I think the incels are into intactivism because a circumcision is an unrectifiable loss. Incels are deeply attracted to events and actions that are unrectifiable. Think about all the robots on 4chan bemoaning the absence of mutual adolescent love. One can be a turbo virgin all the way into college at least and still turn out fine. Incels didn't (turn out will), and they didn't (get any tail in highschool); so that must mean that being a virgin in highschool is what broke them.

In a similar way, many intactivists (especially the r/circumcisiongrief types) blame their sexual inadequacy on their post-natal circumcision, rather than their own psycho sexual issues or their habits of completely monkey-wrenching their shit on the daily. To be absolutely fair, a circ will almost definitely negatively affect your sex life, and really, it's frustrating to have a completely pointless operation done to your meat without your consent, but I think intactivism is a heatsink its proponents fervor, rather than the source of the anger.

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this is very insightful, and it sheds some light for me on something underappreciated: the way in which inceldom is not the same as not having sex. it's an ideology characterized by misogyny, misanthropy, and a sense of one's own brokenness, and in particular by a fixation on the sense of unrectifiable loss you describe. people really struggle with the idea that there are incels who have had sex or that someone can not have had sex and not qualify for the label incel.

more generally, chan culture and its offshoots really successfully capitalized upon these tendencies in ways that seem to be underexamined. there's a reason /lgbt/ attracted so many trans people. if you went through the wrong puberty, you have suffered actual, extremely painful unrectifiable loss, and a culture that recognizes that and encourages wallowing in it can serve an oppositional role to a broader culture that just lies to you about what you've experienced. i rarely hear about this and when i do it comes wrapped in moralizing terms like "brain poison" which are in their own way accurate and useful, but which are not sufficient for a complete examination

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Think the opposition to it is pre manosphere, but yeah, I think from tne manosphere side not everybody who says that is a anti-semite / anti-islam, lot of it also felt very 'we need a cause to show those dastardly feminists that they don't have the moral high ground', if that makes sense. Same with the manospherian opposition to prison rape (which often felt a lot of 'men get raped too!' stuff, and not really that active in opposition to the prison system. (I mean in general, there are elements of it that were pretty vocal about it, but from what I always got from that space was that is was more like an empty signal). (Note im just talking about the manosphere and the bits I read from that space, not the general opposition to circumcision).

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

So just a couple things before the rest of this comment:

  • If someone is reading this and wants to comment with information about the state of the penis of themselves or others, i do not consent, please kindly fuck off
  • I don’t think parents should be pushed into circumcising their children.
  • In an absolute scenario where I choose between outlawing circumcision or not, I would outlaw it
  • none of this is really integral to the rest of the comment, i just felt that this would aid with keeping interpretation of this comment clean.

I spent about five minutes trying to see what I could find out. I looked up a few “intactivist” organisations and, at risk of poisoning my algorithms forever, looked at their socials and who they followed. I don’t think I really found out anything that interesting, except that a lot of them follow daniel “tosh.0” tosh? He probably platformed some of them at some point. Otherwise, I think in terms of what is organisationally there, it’s a little too fringe to be “driven primarily” by any particular cultural faction.

E: adding that when I think about it, I’ve seen intactivists presented in two tv shows as fringe weirdos. I think the editors of the shows chose to focus just on the views surrounding circumcision and not anything else.

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istewartreply
awful.systems

When I used to work at the farmers' market in San Francisco, I would always dread when somebody had a protest scheduled for the Embarcadero plaza, as it would make packing up and getting out at the end of the day even more of a chore. But the most, ah, visually striking of those was certainly the "intactivists." It was actually a fairly gender-diverse crowd, plenty of concerned moms mixed in (and I was given to suspect that some of them had to be drawn from what we would now call MAHA circles)... But the centerpiece was a bunch of guys holding signs and wearing bleached-white jeans with red circles painted on their groins 😬

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

Ah yes the first group I looked up, the “Bloodstained Men & Their Friends” (BSM) are the ones who started (perhaps appropriated from period havers) the red on white pants thing.

And now I’m imagining ordering a porchetta sandwich at Roli Roti, seeing them protest, and remembering to ask for extra pork skin.

j/k, I would never forget to order the crackling.

(I’m so sorry for that)

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in retrospect I regret starting this hare

The impulse was a HN sub where the CDCCPS was gonna mark infant male circumcision as bad

becase the CDC is now basically RFK JR/MAHA aligned, my thought went instantly to neo-nazis. [See above, this was CPS, not CDC, so I doubly misread. Further association follows] In part because a couple of election cycles ago here in Sweden, the local nationalist party tried to resurrect the old Swedish ban on kashrut slaughter as an anti-islamist trope, showing that these bad Nazi ideas keep showing up

HN submission (flagged): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46567696

Previous discussion on HN from 9 years ago, no-one mentions Fremskrittspartiet are heirs to Nazis, nor that the linked submission explicitely calls out the legislation as anti-semitic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14291906

I completely forgot that the US is almost unique in the prevalence of infant male circumcision on non-religious grounds

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corbinreply
awful.systems

When phrased like that, they can't be disentangled. You'll have to ask the person whether they come from a place of hate or compassion.

::: spoiler content warning: frank discussion of the topic

Male genital mutilation is primarily practiced by Jews and Christians. Female genital mutilation is primarily practiced by Muslims. In Minnesota, female genital mutilation is banned. It's widely understood that the Minnesota statutes are anti-Islamic and that they implicitly allow for the Jewish and Christian status quo. However, bodily autonomy is a relatively fresh legal concept in the USA and we are still not quite in consensus that mutilating infants should be forbidden regardless of which genitals happen to be expressed.

In theory, the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) has been ratified; Mr. Biden said it's law but Mr. Trump said it's not. If the ERA is law then Minnesota's statutes are unconstitutionally sexist! This analysis requires a sort of critical gender theory: we have to be willing to read a law as sexist even when it doesn't mention sex at all. The equivalent for race, critical race theory, has been a resounding success, and there has been some progress on deconstructing gender as a legal concept too. ERA is a shortcut that would immediately reverberate throughout each state's statutes.

The most vocal opponents of the ERA have historically been women; important figures include Alice Hamilton, Mary Anderson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Phyllis Schafly. It's essential to know that these women had little else in common; Schafly was a truly odious anti-feminist while Roosevelt was an otherwise-upstanding feminist.

The men's-rights advocates will highlight that e.g. Roosevelt was First Lady, married to a pro-labor president who generally supported women's rights; I would point out that her husband didn't support ERA either, as labor unions were anti-ERA during that time due to a desire to protect their wages.

This entanglement is a good example of intersectionality. We generally accept in the USA that a law can be sexist and racist, simultaneously, and similarly I think that the right way to understand the discussion around genital mutilation is that it is both sexist and religiously bigoted.

Chaser: It's also racist. C'mon, how could the USA not be racist? Minnesota's Department of Health explicitly targets Somali refugees when discussing female genital mutilation. The original statute was introduced not merely to target Muslims, but to target Somali-American Muslim refugees.

:::

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Not disagreeing on sexism or racism being involved in decision making, and female genital mutilation can refer to several different things, but all of them are more damaging and harmful than male circumcision.

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awful.systems

There's no good reason for male circumcision, but female "circumcision" is not comparable at all. It's almost never done safely and it more than often involves removal of the glans clitoridis (i.e. genital mutilation). Male circumcision does not usually remove the bellend. No one can possibly equate the two in good faith.

Anyways, yeah I would say the main driver is men's rights activists, though unsurprisingly I've seen a fair share of antisemitism come with it. They're more or less the same ideology anyway.

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There’s no good reason for male circumcision

Supposedly it reduces std transmissions and thus HPV caused cancers, which of course is neither here nor there with respect to doing it to people who can't meaningfully consent, and also there are non surgical alternatives like condoms and hpv vaccines.

Female circumcision is usually butchery and completely indefensible.

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awful.systems

Would you say that in your life you find it hard to engage in conversation with women?

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froztbytereply
awful.systems

“I, personally, possess the choice on what irreversible impact to make on some other human being’s body without their input at all. Oh and also it’s supes totes fine to do, in general. To babies. Duh.” sure is a take

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awful.systems

Yes, not mutilating infants' genitals is the default choice! A few nations have that custom like a few have the custom of stretching necks, or footbinding, or piercing ears. Its not even a very old custom in the USA (early 20th century I think whereas in North Africa and West Asia it goes back thousands of years).

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awful.systems

I was looking into pepping up my CV and was poking around the 2024 CCC style guide when this abomination hit my retinas:

Use the provided LUTs to tint your images in the predefined scheme. You can load them with your graphics software of choice. Ask your friendly AI overlord if you don’t know how.

After being provided with such reproducible instructions, I was of course poking around blog posts for half an hour to finagle this thing. Adding insult to injury: poking around the LUT files shows they were made by Affinity Studio (a freeware pumped out by Canva) instead of the true scotsman's choice: the G'MIC command line tool! (In fairness, there doesn't seem to be a FOSS option with a usable GUI for this task. The G'MIC GIMP plugin is sort of okay, but it can't parse this particular file.)

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Affinity is (was) an actually great paid software suite that was the best shot at ending the Adobe cartel; unfortunately they were recently bought by Canva and lobotomized.

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awful.systems

Has anyone in the US noticed Kroger/Ralph's/etc piping in AI slop music?

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When I took my mom last week, they were blasting We Built This City.

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