Spyke
slrpnk.net

Lemmygrad is not for everyone. In fact, it is a heavily insulated corner of the Fediverse. If you do not belong, then you lost nothing by being made unwelcome. Many instances are not federated with Lemmygrad, and I am surprised slightly that federation is even maintained with Lemmy.zip.

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greenbitreply
lemmy.zip

Yeah I know, I just don't investigate which instance it happens to be on when there's a commentable thing on the feed. But it's a funny thing to get so worked up with the little bans when nothing was antagonistic towards them.

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slrpnk.net

Instances do have their own character. Such differences are an intentional and favorable feature of the Fediverse, but also demand a basic level of consideration, for effective navigation.

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piefed.social

"Don't you dare disagree with me, or I'll get really hostile and ban you" doesn't demand consideration or respect.

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slrpnk.net

I have no power to stop Lemmygrad from existing, and it is unlikely that I would find cause to advocate against its being allowed to continue existing, as long as it operates simply as a site for activity that many would recognize as protected freedoms of expression.

Additionally, I am using an instance that is not federated with Lemmygrad. As such, my experience in the Lemmyverse is just the same as though Lemmygrad did not exist, which I find quite optimal. LIkewise, Lemmygrad users would not be receptive to my politics, as much so as I am not agreeable to its politics.

Among the virtues of a federated design is that we may choose the experiences we prefer, against the inevitability that others will exist who prefer experiences quite different.

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piefed.social

All of that, I agree with. It's fine. In the same way, I certainly believe that maga.place should be permitted to exist.

My point was that implicitly asking people to give "consideration" in the way that you did, is asking that some level of respect be granted to people who are giving none in return. It's the paradox of tolerance. It's okay to shun people who are making excuses and apologetics for literal mass murder, even to laugh at them for balling up their fists and shutting their eyes tight, and insisting that you are the one who is jingoistic, hostile, counterfactual, unreasonable, and all that, if you aren't fans of the same mass murderers they are.

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I meant "consideration" in the sense of reaching decisions based on awareness.

I think you simply misinterpreted my phrasing.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Lemmy.zip is one of those no-defed instances so it's not that surprising that they continue to be federated even with instances which exist to spread hate and propaganda.

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It seems like a misguided policy, and not particularly consistent with the "Code of Conduct".

Much of the value of the federated design is lost without the threat of defederation to incentivize good behavior and to isolate bad behavior.

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lemmy.zip

Another poor pure soul was oppressed by the communistic regime. Sad.

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Bazellreply
lemmy.zip

Valid point, but I would rather say some communists, not just one, especially assuming how fragile their ego is sometimes.

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It says in the post headline that yet again the accusation is a confession

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You reached the end

Ooh got one 'every accusation is a confession' type reason | Spyke