Spyke
lemmy.world

The total number of active users in the last month would be a much more accurate statistic. The number of users does not give the correct result due to bot accounts.

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kbin.social

The chart here shows 37,000 active users for Lemmy, and this chart here shows 45,000 active users for Kbin.

And if the recent trend continues then those numbers should grow.

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

What actually is kbin? Is it just Lemmy with a different user interface? Does it have multiple instances like Lemmy?

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Starbuckreply
kbin.social

Think of it like email, where you can use GMail and I can use Hotmail, but we can talk to each other. I can see your post and respond from my kbin account (like this).

4
Tartereply
kbin.social

The goal of Kbin is to communicate with many other ActivityPup services.

Lemmy: Link aggregator, social network, forum
Kbin: Link aggregator, social network, forum, microblogging
Mastodon: Microblogging

You can use Kbin to interact with Lemmy, Mastodon, Pleroma, Peertube, and others. That's why I switched today (and loving it, exploring everything right now).

I don't believe that there are multiple instances of Kbin right now. I only know of kbin.social (it is free and open source, though, so anyone can open another instance, I think). Edit: This was wrong. There are many instances. See the answer below.

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

Switched to kbin? How is it's front page aggregation? Is it closer to reddit than Lemmy?

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scifureply
kbin.social

Yes it’s much better and sorting seems stable.

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

I just checked it out. It certainly feels now polished. Do you know what the dev community is like? Do they update and add features frequently?

3

It is a tight small shop from what I understand. Their github: https://github.com/ernestwisniewski/kbin

Ernest, from what I've seen, has been very receptive and passionate about all the incoming users. They scaled their infrastructure quickly to meet demand and were interacting with users on kbin regarding features they would like to see. I have high hopes.

2

AFAIK kbin is way early in development and got slammed by a wave of new users after Rexxit happened.

So the dev’s priority right now is server and platform stability, and it’s already way smoother than it was a couple weeks ago. That being said, there are a ton of features planned and development seems to be going pretty quickly at the moment

2

The site is very new and is in active development. For now, it's mostly under the hood stuff but the stability of the experience increased quite a bit since I first started a week so they must be doing it right.

I believe the owner @ernest is doing the heavy lifting by himself.

1

I had exactly the opposite experience, I joined a kbin and a lemmy instance and opened communities in both, definitely found lemmy easier to jump on too, and lemmy for me was more stable by a large chunk , but that might be the instance I am on seems very well run.

3

Think of it as two types of cheese, both are gorgeous.

1

Its a completely different link agreggator software. But since both Lemmy and kbin are based on the ActivityPub protocol, instances of both can federate with each other. Hence, lemmy users can see content posted on kbin instances and vice versa.

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Actually lemmy has over half a million total users and Kbin stands at about 50,000 the 37,000 number is just the lemmy.world users

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Philreply
lemmy.world

Here is the active users last month curve

It is not just active users , we have gone from under 100 nodes (instances) to over 300 in June alone , I really love the distributed network idea, I could see large sub from reddit running there own instance where they really have control of the destiny of there community.

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lemmy.world

Lemmy is where it's at. I'm noticing an insane jump in quality. It feels like everyone on reddit wants to be a comedian or repeat the same thing 1000 times just to show they fit in.

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ptahreply
lemmy.world

I've checked Reddit a few times the past few days and I've started to notice how many comments are the same inside jokes over and over again. The hive mind really looks different when you're on the outside.

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Expect a crazy peak around July 1st, that's when reddit apps will shutdown, after that things should settle I think.

19

I imagine there will still be a higher than normal amount of growth, but not as steep, through the rest of the summer as other people give up on Reddit after the changes. Some casual users may not understand what's going on, but they'll notice the changes through July and August without all the 3rd party people and the mods who leave/have left/got removed, which may drive them to alternatives.

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I hope the new version of Lemmy is released before then so the home page gets fixed.

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

What does "active" mean? Are lurkers considered active? Or do you have to vote/comment/post to be considered active?

12

Looking through the code on GitHub it looks like active is the number of new posts plus the number of new comments in a certain time period (in this case 6 months).

Caveat: I'm just a hobbyist so my reading of the code may not be exactly correct.

create or replace function site_aggregates_activity(i text)
returns int
language plpgsql
as
$$
declare
   count_ integer;
begin
  select count(*) 
  into count_
  from (
    select c.creator_id from comment c
    inner join user_ u on c.creator_id = u.id
    where c.published > ('now'::timestamp - i::interval) 
    and u.local = true
    union
    select p.creator_id from post p
    inner join user_ u on p.creator_id = u.id
    where p.published > ('now'::timestamp - i::interval)
    and u.local = true
  ) a;
  return count_;
end;
$$;

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_day = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('1 day'));

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_week = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('1 week'));

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_month = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('1 month'));

update site_aggregates 
set users_active_half_year = (select * from site_aggregates_activity('6 months'));

2

Not sure you can infer that from this chart as I believe it counts active users and contributors so lurkers won't show up, of course will will have a lot of people checking us out. Not that bots won't be an issue in the future they will.

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lemmy.world

I understand a large part of it is an influx of spam bots on unsecured instances so don't get too excited quite yet.

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Philreply
lemmy.world

I have not seen a great deal of evidence of spam bots yet myself

1
kbin.social

It's just like 14 people not understanding the software and creating accounts on every instance

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scifureply
kbin.social

Not really multiple accounts on lemmy but one one lemmy.world and another on kbin. Then came across lemm.ee which had some sorting bug fixed and liked the name so… yeah 2 lemmy accounts and one kbin.

3

Exactly what I've done as well. Probably not necessary, but a part of my learning curve.

1

That's me at the beginning. I was confused and it seemed to not work. But now I got it :D

1

Very good news for us! And by the way Reddit keeps fucking up over and over again the growth won't slow anytime soon.

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Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam ....spaaaammm glorious spam

3

The vast majority of this "growth" is from bots. It's not genuine, unfortunately.

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