US speaker warns of 'one of the longest shutdowns,' says he 'won't negotiate' with Democrats
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/10/14/us-speaker-warns-of-one-of-the-longest-shutdowns-says-he-won-t-negotiate-with-democrats-until-they-pause-health-care-demands_6746395_4.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmings.world126
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Also coming from the guy that refuses to swaer in a Democratic who won a special election.
Thinking about it, that's probably the scariest but at the moment as far as our chances of getting out of this.
to avoid the epstein files.
So the shutdown continuing is your fault you silly johnson. Own it. It's yours.
I keep getting emails from the rep from my area. Keeps blaming liberals for this shutdown because they want to supply Healthcare to immigrants. Has a survey question at the bottom. "Should liberals agree to the terms and end the shutdown". Big fat "nope" from me.
instant block the email addresses.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but he doesn’t need to negotiate with Democrats. Republicans have the majority and could pass it on their own if it was reasonable.
You are incorrect. Reps hold a majority, but not a supermajority. They would need sixty votes to pass a budget and end the shutdown, and only hold fifty three seats.
Can't the Senate pass it under the budget reconciliation process with a simple majority?
they used it for the BBB, of which the current news cycle is distracting it from.
Yes
...but they only get to use that card once, and they already burned it.
They could also remove the filibuster
How does that get them more votes?
They can then pass this with a simple majority.
I believe there is a limit to the number of times they can use the reconciliation process between doing the current process.
They could, however, change the procedural rules that require 60 votes with a simple majority.
the gop is so short sighted, they wanted a shutdown but dint have enough seats to end it, meaning its a impulsive thing.
Yes and no. That is true in the House. And the Republicans have passed a version of the bill in the House. The Senate, OTOH, requires 60 votes for a measure to pass. So they need at least 7 votes from non-GOP members to pass anything.
The article is about Mike Johnson and the house.
In the narrowest reading of the article, maybe. But as I said the House already passed their bill. It is in the Senate's hands now. But since the Senate requires a supermajority, they need some level of Dem support to pass it. And since anything the Senate passes would have to go back to the House for reconciliation, House leadership is very much involved in those negotiations (or lack thereof) since they would have to line up support in their own chamber. And that is what the article is talking about. Not just the House, but the negotiations as a whole and Johnson's part in it. (Or refusal to participate as seems to be the case.)
isnt MTG also voting against him, ?
He has the votes to pass it in the house, it's more so the senate Republicans who have to negotiate with the senate Democrats to pass it.
yes, but they need a narrative to not be the ones at fault for shutting it down.
So, can the serial bankrupt businessman bankrupt a country? Sure that would be the big beautiful bankruptcy this time!
He’s a Republican. They live to lick boots. They can’t even sleep if they haven’t licked a boot all day.
He's quite far from sainthood himself. Your standards veiled extreme-right persona with many counter-traits just barely out of sight
its either him or the POS flipflopping kevin, whos probably worst.
how many votes do we need to get rid of Mikey J?
What parts of the government are still operating and getting paid? Let me guess, military and police?
Aren't police paid by the state or city etc, rather than the federal government?
You have FBI, DEA, Secret Service, and of course ICE which are all federal.
I have no idea but law enforcement and military don't just stop doing the job because Congress shuts down. So...if those groups still function, and everything else stops, would republicans care? The stuff they value most still operates.
They're up against a payday cliff. 1st and 15th for military IIRC.
There are several reasons to end a government shutdown prior to your security not being paid. Imagine all the ICE bullshit brigades not getting paid.
They kinda painted themselves in.
The federal armed forces will run out of money to pay people soon. Those ICE losers shouldn't be paid anyways so fine with me
mike closeted johnson, pedaling trumps message is actually making people more likely to read up on the epstein files.
In other words, they're flailing and a deal is coming shortly.
They really don't want the public to have proof the pedophile currently stinking up the white house is a pedophile...
lol, keep cunting, cunt!