He really doesn't. Your opinion is not universal and not factual. Not everything revolves around what you like and things are allowed to change or expand in directions unexpected. As the title says...
No. It isn't. And you're beginning to flirt with potentially violating the rules of the sidebar.
If you don't like the show that's fine. Phrase it like you don't like the show but you don't have a leg to stand on in claiming that any one show has ruined the series more than any other and nor do you in claiming some universal truth. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations applies to the types of show too. Your opinion is not universal, Joeys is not universal, go cry about it.
I might be out of the loop here, but remon's comments read to me like very clear jokes. They never even specified what opinion they're arguing for, just the nebulous idea that "my opinion is the correct one". Without a specific viewpoint being advocated for, I find it very hard to read it as a sincere claim. (Even if there were a specific claim, it wouldn't rule out a joke...gods know I've done that plenty...but it would at least start being more likely to be sincere.)
No, that would be the people who insist on making the fandom exceptionally toxic by insisting their opinion is fact and dissuading new people from being engaged or making people feel like they can't share their opinion. Like I said, you're free to not like the show. I don't care about that. You're not free to dictate what is and isn't real Star Trek and who is and isn't a real Star Trek fan based on what they like. Also the last thing I'm commenting on this matter in this thread. Point has been made clear. If people don't like that then there are alternative Trek communities and they can feel free to make their own.
Things are allowed to grow, but not change. You cant put flying saucers in lord of the rings. You cant make L word about straight couples. And you cant make a Star Trek movie for Star Wars fans, and expect Star Trek fans to like it, and not be insulted by it.
In 2009 I was happy to go see a new Star Trek movie, then I got out of the theatre disappointed, thinking this would be the last one I watch.
And I even somewhat enjoyed ENT! But the line had to be drawn, there.
My opinion is fuck NuTrek. The only exception is LD. I'm just not actively going to shit on NuTrek, because to me it doesn't usually even register as Star Trek.
Only thing I can think of where the opinion seems universal is the penultimate and final seasons of Game of Thrones. I'm not picky in the slightest, especially on a first viewing, wanted to continue loving the series. It didn't merely fizzle, it fell like a lead zeppelin. Never heard a soul, online on IRL, that wasn't flat out pissed off.
My brain is pretty good at ignoring plot holes, again, especially on the first watch. But that scene where they only know the enemy fleet is coming because dragon queen flies over the hill and sees them, my god. They couldn't have posted a couple of dudes to watch the only sea route?! And for all the intrigue and spying, they didn't have a clue that a monster fleet had sailed?! Probably sounded dramatic when they were writing it, but the execution was hilarious. This wasn't a far ride over a mountain range. She just pops over the hill and there they are. I could have walked up there myself.
I will never say the sequel trilogy for Skywalker saga wasn't what it is. It was bad. Can't tell me otherwise. Trying to justify what they did with that is cope. No cap.
When youre making things for people who dont like it and arent fans, that is in fact a slap in the face to fans. See just about every nerd/geek franchise of the past 10+ years thats being made for the same popular kids that would bully the nerds at school for liking it.
Joey has a point.
He really doesn't. Your opinion is not universal and not factual. Not everything revolves around what you like and things are allowed to change or expand in directions unexpected. As the title says...
Cope.
But Joey's opinion is.
But it isn't
Is so!
Look, I came here for an argument! This is just rote contradiction!
No, it isn't!
Yes it is!
No. It isn't. And you're beginning to flirt with potentially violating the rules of the sidebar.
If you don't like the show that's fine. Phrase it like you don't like the show but you don't have a leg to stand on in claiming that any one show has ruined the series more than any other and nor do you in claiming some universal truth. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations applies to the types of show too. Your opinion is not universal, Joeys is not universal, go cry about it.
I might be out of the loop here, but remon's comments read to me like very clear jokes. They never even specified what opinion they're arguing for, just the nebulous idea that "my opinion is the correct one". Without a specific viewpoint being advocated for, I find it very hard to read it as a sincere claim. (Even if there were a specific claim, it wouldn't rule out a joke...gods know I've done that plenty...but it would at least start being more likely to be sincere.)
No, that would be the people who insist on making the fandom exceptionally toxic by insisting their opinion is fact and dissuading new people from being engaged or making people feel like they can't share their opinion. Like I said, you're free to not like the show. I don't care about that. You're not free to dictate what is and isn't real Star Trek and who is and isn't a real Star Trek fan based on what they like. Also the last thing I'm commenting on this matter in this thread. Point has been made clear. If people don't like that then there are alternative Trek communities and they can feel free to make their own.
Mod temper tantrum alert.
Someone makes an unfounded qualitative statement about something. That is inherently a personal opinion. Why does it need to be explicitly stated?
Question. Why do you think your opinion is better?
Did I miss the part where Stamets said their opinion was better?
I never claimed that mine was
Things are allowed to grow, but not change. You cant put flying saucers in lord of the rings. You cant make L word about straight couples. And you cant make a Star Trek movie for Star Wars fans, and expect Star Trek fans to like it, and not be insulted by it.
Unfortunately I'll never see the new trek as it's owned by Paramount.
Fuck Larry and David Ellison.
The last year has taught me that it's easier to boycott things I hate, even if inconvenient, than I thought it would be.
That's fair. I can't blame you there
In 2009 I was happy to go see a new Star Trek movie, then I got out of the theatre disappointed, thinking this would be the last one I watch.
And I even somewhat enjoyed ENT! But the line had to be drawn, there.
My opinion is fuck NuTrek. The only exception is LD. I'm just not actively going to shit on NuTrek, because to me it doesn't usually even register as Star Trek.
You can like it if you want to, but I gave up.
Personally, though I've appreciated them, I've never enjoyed an ear, nose and throat doctor.
Depends on what actually this is about.
If it's about the last movie, that clearly goes against every value of the franchise, no it's objectively a slap in the face of fans.
If it's about the other recent stuff that is just badly written, yeah, it's just a close to universal subjective opinion.
Only thing I can think of where the opinion seems universal is the penultimate and final seasons of Game of Thrones. I'm not picky in the slightest, especially on a first viewing, wanted to continue loving the series. It didn't merely fizzle, it fell like a lead zeppelin. Never heard a soul, online on IRL, that wasn't flat out pissed off.
My brain is pretty good at ignoring plot holes, again, especially on the first watch. But that scene where they only know the enemy fleet is coming because dragon queen flies over the hill and sees them, my god. They couldn't have posted a couple of dudes to watch the only sea route?! And for all the intrigue and spying, they didn't have a clue that a monster fleet had sailed?! Probably sounded dramatic when they were writing it, but the execution was hilarious. This wasn't a far ride over a mountain range. She just pops over the hill and there they are. I could have walked up there myself.
I will never say the sequel trilogy for Skywalker saga wasn't what it is. It was bad. Can't tell me otherwise. Trying to justify what they did with that is cope. No cap.
I actually feel sort of the opposite about the Assassins Creed series: the trilogy I loved was an affront to the franchise.
As evidenced by the fact that I liked them at all, unlike "real" AC games.
When youre making things for people who dont like it and arent fans, that is in fact a slap in the face to fans. See just about every nerd/geek franchise of the past 10+ years thats being made for the same popular kids that would bully the nerds at school for liking it.