Moldbug has a sad (2), plans to flee USA
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37209900
Panicked Curtis Yarvin—JD Vance's guru—plans to flee USA
The arsehole was quoted:
The second Trump revolution, like the first, is failing. It is failing because it deserves to fail. It is failing because it spends all its time patting itself on the back. It is failing because its true mission, which neither it nor (still less) its supporters understand, is still as far beyond its reach as algebra is beyond a cat. Because the vengeance meted out after its failure will dwarf the vengeance after 2020—because the successes of the second revolution are so much greater than the first—I feel that I personally have to start thinking realistically about how to flee the country. Everyone else in a similar position should have a 2029 plan as well. And it is not even clear that it will wait until 2029: losing the Congress will instantly put the administration on the defensive.
Me:
So apparently not all is good in broligarchy land. Still it’s more likely he might be suffering some breakdown instead. Relatively poverty stricken people buy expensive convertibles when they have a midlife crises. People like him poop on the internet. Most likely he will be around, for sometime, causing grief
https://www.thenerdreich.com/panicked-curtis-yarvin-jd-vance-guru-plans-to-flee-usa/Open linkView original on leminal.space
It physically pains me to say this, but I think Yarvin is correct here. What IS getting done is bad enough, but he's right that you can't really half-ass a hostile takeover, which is what Trump et al seem to be doing. Yes, they're fucking the US systems up, badly, but they're leaving the structures too intact. They're still bothering with things like court cases and gerrymandering. You don't bother with gerrymandering if you're not planning on still having elections, yknow?
I also think Yarvin is correct that Trump and crew will ultimately fail because of it. That's probably cold comfort to the people who have already lost loved ones, or who are dying or going to die because of this administration (and as a trans person myself, I may well be among that number), but it's not nothing.
@EponymousBosh Of course there will be elections. Putin does elections too, they work wonderfully!
@EponymousBosh @AllNewTypeFace Estoy de acuerdo. Sigo pensando que todo el caos que genera es una cortina de humo mientras roban cantidades inmensas de dólares. Cuanto más denso el humo más fácil que nadie preste mucha atención a su verdadero propósito. Un EEUU realmente fascista les estorbaria mucho para disfrutar del botín. Otra cosa son los dementes que ha puesto a dirigir el país mientras él hace el payaso para distraernos. Igual alguno sí que da una sorpresa.
I don't think getting rid of elections would work. Dictatorships do not rely on election rigging alone. That's just interventionist propaganda (barge in, set up elections, presto, democracy).
Competent dictators don't act anything like Trump. Once in power they try to obtain support of as wide of a section of the population as possible. There's no freedom of speech in a dictatorship; the dictator is giving prepared speeches, designed to bolster his support, to unify the nation, etc, not just having fun gloating at half the nation's expense.
If he actually tries to maintain power despite his relative unpopularity, the consequences will be utterly disastrous.
Curtis Yarvin goes to prison. He has two cellmates. He asks them why they're there. "I helped Trump destroy the country", one of them replies. "Well I'm here because Trump didn't destroy the country", Yarvin retorts. They turn to the third man, who says: "I am Donald Trump."
@bitofhope @AllNewTypeFace here's my real question, where the hell is he planning to flee to? what country would willingly take in a dude whose main resume point is "I'm a monarchist who is an expert in overthrowing liberal democracy"
even an autocrat would be smarter than to willingly harbor a guy who is intellectually oppositional-defiant, lmao
historically, perhaps argentina?
heh, yeah. there’s also precedent for these fuckers to disappear into the east for a while
vacation in dubai with one way ticket? i don't know if yarvin would be welcome there
at first i was thinking about how several prominent islamists wound up in afghanistan, despite none being from there. they picked it because it was a dysfunctional state somewhat aligned with their cause. i don't think it would be a stretch to say that argentina wouldn't become that in a couple of years, especially if american "help" happens. and also there's historical implication
well that or el salvador
Techno-feudalist slaver monarchy? I don't think we threaten him with a good time
ok but he would have to convert to islam to worm his way into mbz advisory circle
And Trump is also tossing a lot of money that way.
Gotta question the "expert" here. "Enthusiast," maybe. Yarvin is a jumped-up opinion columnist who only got this far because he never had an editor.
@istewart it doesn't change the fact that virtually everyone in the current regime in the USA happily admits that he's one of their chief intellectual northstars.
Just because someone is a crackpots or a dipshit doesn't mean they can't be intensely politically or philosophically influential - look at francis fukuyama or thomas friedman, both complete morons and yet responsible for a massive amount of human suffering via political action that aligns with their viewpoints.
edit: See also Trofim Lysenko, Andrew Wakefield, Napoleon Hill, Sun Myung Moon, et cetera
I was also stubbing my toe on “expert” there and +1 to this post
Karl Radek jumpscare
we have an obligation not to inflict him on anyone else
Or you could send him to Australia, as payback for Murdoch.
I hope Yarvin hangs someday. Ideally not by vigilantes
Yeah but the jury would make that really weird
Anybody want to pitch in to get him a basic e-bike and a solar charge setup? He could probably fund his egress the rest of the way by posting a travelogue, that might turn into some choice content around the time he hits El Paso
Amazing how he looks like an annoying Seinfeld extra in that picture.
He’s got a brain for silent monastic life too, a man of many talents
He looks like he played Micheal Bolton in Office Space.
Damn, can't unsee. Indeed.
He def is the type to lock his door when a poc/poor person walks up to his car.
He wanted Nazi Germany with Milton Friedman, he'll get Argentina without a USA to bail it out.
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