I basically dgaf about - oh I dunno - 178 million of them. You know, the 77 million who voted for this fascist clownshow plus the 101 million who didn’t even bother voting. They can all rot in their self-made hell for all I care.
I'd probably reluctantly live in Hawaii. If someone were paying me an unreasonable amount of money to do so. Distance seems to temper the worst of the bullshit.
they also found out that they couldnt run thier little compounds efficiently, no waste removal system. just the other month i think BEZOs was complaining about human waste not be properly disposed from his compund/island.
What else would you do, reluctantly, for money?
See, Larry Ellison owns about 98% of the island of Lanai. He's got a bunker there.
Zuckerberg also owns property on Lanai, has a bunker there (a Lanai local told me), in addition to his ranch on Kauai.
Peter Thiel, probably similar. Musk, similar... Oprah, etc.
So we'll get you the GoFundMe money, but we have a mission for you...
Also if I get to displace some American jag off that moved there. They don’t get to trade with me and come here, but I get to kick them out and take their house.
Yeah I was thinking visiting was off limits, and I think I'm taken as a white dude, though generics will say otherwise. Half my ancestors discovered America the other half didn't think they lost it, sort of thing. Also I try not to visit countries with fascist governments.
Realistically Canada is going to put off allowing asylum seekers from the US as long as possible, as the volumes of asylum seekers the US handles (that are no longer welcome there) would overwhelm Canada. That's without considering American asylum seekers too.
You best bet is to consider immigrating through traditional, economic based pathways.
its either mexico or canada. EU if your a PHD/MD in niche specailities holder, willing to have less income than in the states, but they dont see the problem anyways.
OH yea, because US citizens is sitll not immediate threat from systemic persecution, war zone, or wanton killings.
I understand the dislike for the US, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that there aren't any other countries just as bad as the current admin, if not worse.
Half of the countries in the world are horrible places to live. Actually it might be more than half, but you get the idea.
I wish I had any but from what I understand. If you aren't rich its hard to move to another country. A shame because I would be Canadian or European for my own safety if I could
I don't know.. Id probably live in Hawaii or Oregon or Washington. They sound like nice places, but I they're probably still very off from my European sensibilities. New England sounds nice too.
Don't complain. There's literally people that live in America right now. Send your thoughts and prayers.
Gosh this is solid gold! Absolutely stealing this one.
We appreciate that but what we really need are more bullets and prescription drugs
Sure give them mOaR BuLLeTs, how many school shootings were there yesterday?
Never enough. Apparently.
Not enough
Generally it's a non zero chance
I basically dgaf about - oh I dunno - 178 million of them. You know, the 77 million who voted for this fascist clownshow plus the 101 million who didn’t even bother voting. They can all rot in their self-made hell for all I care.
I'd probably reluctantly live in Hawaii. If someone were paying me an unreasonable amount of money to do so. Distance seems to temper the worst of the bullshit.
By this time next year it will either be its own thing or part of another country, this place will be a Balkanized mess by then
trumps already trying to withold funding for 16 blue states. balkanization maybe sooner than expected.
Finally someone talking sense, really depressing sense, but sense nonetheless
It will be increasingly overrun by tech bros who are setting up compounds to hunker down through the worst of whatever the future holds.
they also found out that they couldnt run thier little compounds efficiently, no waste removal system. just the other month i think BEZOs was complaining about human waste not be properly disposed from his compund/island.
If they can build their corpo-feudal city states they may not. We're all probably gonna have to fight eventually, may as well do it in paradise?
it will be like the future in 4400 show, where the affluent powerful live in a pristine city.
LOL, what? Is Hawaii joining New Zealand or Japan or something?
No clue, but with the escalations towards the occupations of American cities they will have their hands full
its closer in culture to native NZ people, or any of the polynesian islands in the indian ocean or near australia.
What else would you do, reluctantly, for money?
See, Larry Ellison owns about 98% of the island of Lanai. He's got a bunker there.
Zuckerberg also owns property on Lanai, has a bunker there (a Lanai local told me), in addition to his ranch on Kauai.
Peter Thiel, probably similar. Musk, similar... Oprah, etc.
So we'll get you the GoFundMe money, but we have a mission for you...
Thiel tried to make his own "f-boy island" i think it kinda failed.
Also if I get to displace some American jag off that moved there. They don’t get to trade with me and come here, but I get to kick them out and take their house.
or alaska, but its probably better to be in mexico or canada.
Definitely not even for a visit.
Even the snowbirds I know are taking a pass. That country is in a badddd place.
🛎️🛎️🛎️
Yeah I was thinking visiting was off limits, and I think I'm taken as a white dude, though generics will say otherwise. Half my ancestors discovered America the other half didn't think they lost it, sort of thing. Also I try not to visit countries with fascist governments.
As a colour blind Canadian, I’m horribly confused. Is this a never or absolutely? You don’t happen to be from Alberta by any chance, do you?
Never is in red, absolutely is in green, the entire map is colored red. There is nothing but the never red shown anywhere on the map beyond the key.
It is a bad choice for the colors chosen, as they are the perfect red/green opposite for color blindness to see as the same color.
Note: this not written as snarky to Fly_Dutch_Rudder, itt is meant as a helpful explanation of the map.
Guy, I can’t see the difference between the red and the green you picked.
in case you were serious its a never live anywhere
/c/mapswithoutnewzealandNot that we'd expect this one to.
Weird that that community doesn't exist on Lemmy yet.
@[email protected], would you be up for hosting it? Having it on the NZ instance would be *chef's kiss*.
/c/fediversewithoutmapswithoutnewzealandI'll throw together a survey for Lemmy.nz users and see what people think 🙂
It is done: https://lemmy.nz/c/mapswithoutnz
This is great!
Fuck I don't want to live here either. Please annex Washington, we'll come willingly.
You can join Poland willingly or be conquered.
Wish I could relate. At this point im waiting for Canada to announce asylum for transpeople
Realistically Canada is going to put off allowing asylum seekers from the US as long as possible, as the volumes of asylum seekers the US handles (that are no longer welcome there) would overwhelm Canada. That's without considering American asylum seekers too.
You best bet is to consider immigrating through traditional, economic based pathways.
Great I'm disabled and never finished College, so that's probably not gonna happen
its either mexico or canada. EU if your a PHD/MD in niche specailities holder, willing to have less income than in the states, but they dont see the problem anyways.
OH yea, because US citizens is sitll not immediate threat from systemic persecution, war zone, or wanton killings.
All my profs at my Canadian undergrad university were American, they had left because of Kent State. A lot have already come up here again.
and MD recently denied an offer from ULCA heading a surgical team to be in one of Canadas healthcare clinics/university.
Canada already has precedent of not extraditing trans people here because of the climate for queer people. June I think.
? just come on over, I don't think we are closed off to immigration. Unless you are an ass, then I am not your buddy pal.
What about Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands?
That's how I feel, and I'm American. Wanted to go expat during Trumpfest 1 but the wife wouldn't budge.
Trump’s wasn’t called by canadians?
He was called by CANADA
It was one big conference call, we were all on it.
Somebody was chewing food (I’m looking at you Todd from Kingston Ontario), but the call went okay.
I really hope other countries start allowing lgbtqia+ people to immigrate as asylum seekers.
I'm so sick of living in this shithole country.
No one on Earth could be as cruel as the US is to its own people
I understand the dislike for the US, but I think it's disingenuous to suggest that there aren't any other countries just as bad as the current admin, if not worse.
Half of the countries in the world are horrible places to live. Actually it might be more than half, but you get the idea.
Any suggestions on where to try moving to?
I wish I had any but from what I understand. If you aren't rich its hard to move to another country. A shame because I would be Canadian or European for my own safety if I could
Hopefully, other countries will start offering asylum to Americans who want/need to get out.
I am praying for that
I don’t know about other countries but Canada has issued warnings for Canadians with gender neutral passports to avoid the US.
Puerto Rico? Strange choice, but cool.
beat me to it.
Where I'd live in the US as an american
So... Guam?
Fuck I got family down there and Im not even gonna visit.
No fuckin thank you
I don't know.. Id probably live in Hawaii or Oregon or Washington. They sound like nice places, but I they're probably still very off from my European sensibilities. New England sounds nice too.
Even before the current shit that's going down, I would advise against moving to the states. it's just not worth it.
As an American looking at Canada, the only red is Quebec, excepting Montreal.