Spyke

Who would win?

the omnipotent, omniscient Creator of the Universe,

or

A boy who’s actually a girl

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msagereply
programming.dev

Created by... the same god.

So he can create something to defeat himself? So not omnipotent?

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feddit.org

This is exactly the kind of rhetoric that turns progressive people away from churches. Are progressives 'killing god', or is it actually the churches themselves who are deliberately turning people away?

AFAIK hating on trans people isn't even in the bible, so this is 100% on the current personnel of the churches being even worse than they absolutely have to. Even if you believe that the bible is truly the "word of God", this is just something you made up yourself.

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sh.itjust.works

Unfortunately there is some line in Leviticus about it being illegal for a 'man to wear the clothing of a woman, or a woman to wear the tools of a man', and another one about not cutting yourself. But for a god who commands infant genital mutilation, it's certainly hypocritical.

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feddit.org

Easy fix: "trans women are women, trans men are men". You could just as easily argue that the man who wears the clothing of a woman is the closeted trans man.

another one about not cutting yourself

The catholic church certainly doesn't care about that when it comes to modern medicine.

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sh.itjust.works

Oh, I am certainly supportive of trans people being the gender they say they are. I don't think the people who wrote the Bible thought of it that way though, it was probably their intent that the (flawed) concept of binary biological sex was what they were referring to.

And it's important to acknowledge that and reject the Bible as a source of moral truth, rather than seeking to 'reinterpret' it, to make it 'acceptable' while not having to outright reject it.

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While I agree that Christianity is flawed from the get-go and that you're probably right about what the bible authors would think about trans people, I still can't keep myself from pointing out the glaring holes in church doctrine. The people who wrote the bible, especially the old testament, would probably stone someone to death if they explained current Christianity to them.

Arguably, pointing out the raging bigotry of "this isn't explicitly in the bible, I just made it up myself" and "this IS in the bible, but I chose to ignore it" would make people aware of how absurd Christianity is and reconsider their beliefs, but in reality that's probably not at all how belief works.

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This is a great point. It would be easy enough to argue that the verse speaks against closeted folks dressing against their honest inner identity.

But I don't think logic or a sincere attempt to unstand the will of a benevolent higher power were ever involved, sadly.

I feel like if they were really seeking the will of an all loving God, they could have come to that conclusion already. :(

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Id hope the fact that none of it is true also turns people away from churches.

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lemmy.world

That's why you should vote for me next papal election. I will make the church about mana gathering and rituals to kill evil politicians. Jesus will be recognised as a true socialist and the billionares will be sacrificed for the good of humanity.

Oh and also we will make the best cookies every christmas and the best ham each easter.

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midwest.social

I'm sold, you have my vote in the conclave

There is the small problem that I'm not a cardinal, or a Catholic, or a Christian but I think if we get enough other people on board we can take the Swiss Guard and then those things become traditionally optional

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Thanks for sharing, that article about the pope dropping an f-slur is wild. Imagine reading that and thinking, "Yup that's my guy, that's my spiritual leader."

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discuss.tchncs.de

But god is already dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

Though 'we' seems to be germans as the quote is by german philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche and even before Nietzsche, the earliest accounts of 'death of god' discussions seem to originate in german lutheran culture of the 17th century.

So since god is dead and transgender rights are some modern stuff, trans rights cannot have caused the death of god.

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Maxxiereply
piefed.blahaj.zone

Transgender scientist Friedrich Nietzsche invented a time machine and went back to 19th century to kill god. And I love it for him.

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bigots always make trans people seem as badass as possible meanwhile i'm over here on saturday night with a cat on my lap crocheting.

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i'm over here on saturday night with a cat on my lap crocheting and culling weak gods, apparently.

I took the liberty of updating that for you.

Either way, keep rocking.

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lemmy.ca

If god was real and being trans killed him id vagina my penis tomorrow, not out of any real desire to become a woman, but more because of the utter contempt I have for religion.

Hail Satan.

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He also basically did nothing wrong in the Bible, either. All the genocide and murder was done by god alone.

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lemmy.world

Transgender rights have apparently such reality-bending power that they could kill that which was never real.

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I was jealous enough of the double jumping but now. I would consider trans life if I got to personally kill and eat a god.

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If trans rights can kill your god, then your god doesn't deserve to survive in the first place.

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lemmy.ca

The machine god cares not of gender only how many Dreadnaught rated artillery cannons are plugged into your brain stem.

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"Hahaha, foolish human, no mortal weapon can harm me- ... wait, what are you doing? Why are you wielding that transgender person as a weapon?? Tf, this isn't fair, I didn't agree to this!!"

(If the "weapon" is a trans furry they make uwu sounds as you swing them around.)

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If God is such a pussy that he can't handle a little snip snip here, or a stich stitch there, then he is no God.

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Humans gave us lemons, but the same tool can be used for them too.

Also this gif rustled my jimmies like it was 2010.


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The almighty God fell to big tiddy trans goth girls.

That’s ok. Happens to the best of us, my dude.

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You can't kill something that doesn't exist. And if there is a god that's all powerful and this is the world we have, then good, kill him

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How about we just let god speak for themselves, Umkay. God made parrots already. So as far as I can tell, parroting is blasphemy against God's creation with the hubris to propose a sinful man can do better than the Almighty. If god objects, let them speak, if they care. People that care, call. This whole man in the middle bullshit is ridiculous yellow news hearsay. Acting like cave-god off using Morse code on the telegraph still. If Almighty ain't got an iPhone, the fuck kinda God you got Pandroid?

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He can't actually say that and not face internal retribution from the Holy See, right? Not for the trans-phobia, but for the possible blasphemy. I understand that his statement could be taken metaphorical. But it still doesn't place a good light on senior Catholic leadership.

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Nah, they want Christians to be scared of a demonic threat, otherwise why would people bother supporting them? If God just stomps with no real threat or challenge, that's not a compelling narrative they can sell to the cult.

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Ironically the only thing killing religion is demonic priests who want to use religion as a platform to hurt innocent people they don't like.

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Good! Your archaic and primitive beliefs are meaningless in modern times and should be extinct.

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