Less insane and more honest, truly

It's two guys in London and one guy in San Francisco. In London there's presumably no OpenAI office, in SF, you can't be at two places at once and Anthropic has more true believers/does more critihype.

Unrelated, few minutes before writing this a bona-fide cultist replied to the programming dev post. Cultist with the handle "BussyGyatt @feddit.org". Truly the dumbest timeline.

I dont know anything about the locations of any offices, but could it he that openAI just didnt have any local places? Asking them why not all worked ld be a good journalist question

But otoh it is just two three of them, and the second ones photo gives off a weird vibe. Why is he smiling like it is a joke?

This is always what you get when your fundamental belief is "capitalism good", so no matter how close you get to "and the problem is capitalism" you can never actually get there, like in a crazy version of edging.

What I'm saying is that libs are philosophical gooners

Certainly a lot more money in that, than scouring github for code you can put into urbit.

I have spend the last few hours looking through all my social media posts making sure I delete any bad things I have said about witches.

Hecate left no crumbs

Yeah, I think the whole 'quickly getting away without leaving a trace' is more sign of some training. But, this is reduced in being likely by the whole FBI just being filled with incompetent goons, podcasters, racists, who are now playing 'find the person of color' and not doing the actual FBI things.

I mean I have no high opinion of groypers, so I don't think they are well trained soldiers or something so take that into account. Exmil just has a higher willingness to kill people.

But yes, very good to point out thanks. Esp as Evans has experience in these things, and can generally be relied upon. (Apart from his views on 40k being too rosy).

We can prob rule out a Luigi style killer as there was no shellcasing with words on it found as far as I can tell.

"One of our guys was murdered; it could have only been an elite Navy SEAL with over 300 confirmed kills!!!" them, probably

Yeah and missing the point that a lot of people think 'some ideas are so shit they shouldn't be debated the right way' esp not ideas about others who are not you and stuff we have debated (and fought over) again and again already. It is like the IRA, Kirk needs to be lucky once, trans people/minorities/university professors(*) need to be lucky every time, again and again, forever. This is just the dumbest level of object level vs meta level thinking out there. When somebody enters the marketplace with sawdust they claim is flour every week you toss them out, don't let them in next time. And you should notice they only try to sell this 'flour' to the poor.

*: my second point, Piper is also very full of shit here. You know what happened to uni professors who debated/corrected/were women/poc in his space? They got put on the TPUSA watchlist and got death and rape threats. He was part of the organisation who ran that database. So this imagined idealized platonic Kirk shaped object isn't even real. Hell you can see in debates the tricks he pulls so his side thinks he wins. That creepy smile he makes after a point that he knows is bullshit, that is to knock people off balance so people react oddly (as it is a really creepy smile) and don't react to the dumb shit he just said. See this clip for example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jrsy1aB6OSk (it cuts off before she talks about how creepy his smile is). Note he is lying about the fetus thing, and if this wasn't a high stress debate and people got time to think about things they would just reply with 'so a dolphin fetus is a dolphin little human being?'. But that is professional debaters vs college students for you. This is not a man who was interested in truth or having his mind changed. And this smile is not some incident, he does it in other places. But his audience is preprimed on thinking they are the logic and reason people, so they consider somebody going 'what the fuck did you just do with your face' as a way to dodge the argument, so in their eyes this is a win for him.

I find that all these debatebro types have some of these tricks, in addition to often controlling the mic. Peterson refuses to explain, Shapiro demands you accept his premise from the start 'for the argument' (yeah if you are right you are right, but the debate is about if you are right not 'assume im right'). The 'I refuse your question' guy is simply somebody who noticed one of those debatebro tricks and refused to go along with it. (the patron saint, may your hair remain long, and your bluetooth have good connections forever). Note that this prob doesn't work on the more experienced debatebros as they would have prepared an answer for 'why can't we both have lgbt people and economic stability' and it gives them a way to spout hate and misinfo again. As all work is skilled work, being a bad faith debate bro propagandist is also a skill (which the Koch brothers paid Kirk well for).

Related to this "Those who walk away from debatebros".

I'm at least enjoying the many comments calling her out, but damn she just doubles down even after being given many many examples of him being a far-right nationalist monster who engaged in attempts to outright subvert democracy.

Why don’t you tell us what those are Kelsey

According to this https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyj2o4cuvc2g , and I think a fox news news report he is dead.

He was shot while he was trying to blame gun violence on trans people and gang violence basically. In a moment of weird poetry.

But I just posted this here to warn people. A tip if you see something traumatic: https://bsky.app/profile/baroness.bsky.social/post/3lyj32qx2os2f go play some videogames to not sear it into your mind.

Anyway, doubt they will make the diaper guy the new Horst Wessel.

E: a awful.systems relevant lol: https://bsky.app/profile/lasergiant.bsky.social/post/3lyixmkzfuc2r

We're already seeing some of the less circumspect fash call this their Reichstag Fire.

But I just met 'er!

nah they're built different

Behold the power of this fully selective quotation.

That's just yer bog-standard "the best lie has a seed of truth", ainnit?

(Peer review in its modern form was adopted gradually, with a recognizable example in 1831 from the same William Whewell who coined the word scientist. It displaced the tradition of having the editor of a journal decide everything himself, so whatever its flaws, it has broadened the diversity of voices that influence what gets officially published.)

Epstein was a sophon controlled trisolaran asset working to prevent crucial development of physics!!! j/k

First domino: US government invents peer review

Last domino: Richard Stallman successfully kamikazes his reputation for good after multiple close attempts over the years

imo academia in the us selects for self-serious mini-tyrants. people unable to sleaze their way to an equivalent position in the job market, so they go with a position where their subordinates have no agency or recourse for inappropriate behavior and are entirely dependent on them for their funding and their career progress^[by standing up to my piece of shit advisor, i have left with just a master's degree after five years, despite definitely having enough research completed under this advisor to leave with a phd. i chose to stand up for myself and try to end this cycle instead of adding an acronym to my title. arguably a mistake, idk, there is a robert frost poem about this.]. the university system here seems to only care if a professor brings in grant money --- if so, they can do whatever they want.

e.g. a year ago a student of mine with a documented, legally required accommodation was just straight denied it by a professor in my department. this poor student had to go through some equal opportunity claim just to have his accommodation met, and the professor is still there, having suffered no consequences.

maybe i should apply to a phd program outside of the us. i speak spanish (but slowly, y como un gringo) 🤷

😭

sorry my friend, that is really brutal. wishing you the best. ❤

Can you recommend any resources on those topics?

That's a good point that I'm not sure many people are talking about. There's a shift happening where while I'm still seeing way too much "you're just not prompting it right", it has lessened. Now I'm seeing a lot more "well of course it can't do that" even from the believers.

They're still crying "the problem is that you're using it wrong", and blaming on the end user but it seems to be quietly shifting so they're now calling people dumb for ever believing the hype that they were the ones pushing to begin with.

which naturally leads us to: having to fix a portage overlay ~= “compiler engineer”

wonder what simonw’s total spend (direct and indirect) in this shit has been to date. maybe sunk cost fallacy is an unstated/un(der?)accounted part in his True Believer thing?

$14,000 could probably still buy you a lesser Porsche in decent shape, but we should praise this brave pioneer for valuing experiences over things, especially at the all-important boundary of human/machine integration!

(no, I'm not bitter at missing the depreciation nadir for 996-era 911s, what are you talking about)

I’ve learned so much langdesign and stuff over the years simply by hanging around plt nerds, didn’t even need to spend for a single dragon book!

(although I probably have a samizdat copy of it somewhere)

We have some threads of Vaccinations in Book/Article Form which try to share good pop science and textbooks without the cult shit and Dunning-Kruger. People who think they know everything and are mysteriously underemployed tend to have the most time to post though.

It is pretty good as a source for science fiction ideas. I mean, lots of their ideas originate from science fiction, but their original ideas would make fun fantasy sci-fi concepts. Like looking off their current front page... https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WLFRkm3PhJ3Ty27QH/the-cats-are-on-to-something cat's deliberately latching on to humans as the most lazy way of advancing their own value across the future seems like a solid point of fantasy worldworldbuilding...

Also a concept that Scott Aaronson praised Hanson for.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210425233250/https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/994112139420876800

(Crediting the "Great Filter" to Hanson, like Scott Computers there, sounds like some fuckin' bullshit to me. In Cosmos, Carl Sagan wrote, "Why are they not here? There are many possible answers. Although it runs contrary to the heritage of Aristarchus and Copernicus, perhaps we are the first. Some technical civilization must be the first to emerge in the history of the Galaxy. Perhaps we are mistaken in our belief that at least occasional civilizations avoid self-destruction." And in his discussion of abiogenesis: "Life had arisen almost immediately after the origin of the Earth, which suggests that life may be an inevitable chemical process on an Earth-like planet. But life did not evolve beyond blue-green algae for three billion years, which suggests that large lifeforms with specialized organs are hard to evolve, harder even than the origin of life. Perhaps there are many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no big beasts and vegetables." Boom! There it is, in only the most successful pop-science book of the century.)

Honestly Hanson is so awful the rationalists almost make him look better by association.

The Manifest networking event in Berkeley combines prediction markets, race cranks, EA, and LessWrong. Scott Alexander likes prediction markets, does Yud?

Also notable that apparently Siskind thinks nuclear non-proliferation sorta worked because people talked it out and decided to be mature about it

This is his claim about everything, including how we got gay rights. Real if all you have is a hammer stuff.

Yud: "That's not going to asymptote to a great final answer if you just run them for longer."

Asymptote is a noun, you git. I know in the grand scheme of things this is a trivial thing to be annoyed by, but what is it it with Yud's weird tendency to verbify nouns? Most rationalists seem to emulate him on this. It's like a cult signifier.

Also they both seem to agree that a worldwide moratorium on AI research that will give us time to breed/genetically engineer superior brained humans to fix our shit is the way to go.

This century deserves a better class of thought-criminal

assuming that nuclear nonproliferation is gonna hold up indefinitely for any reason is some real fukuyama's end of history shit

let alone "because it's Rational™ thing to do", it's only in rational interest of already-nuclear states to keep things this way. couple of states that could make a good point for having nuclear arsenal and having capability to manufacture it are effectively dissuaded from this by american diplomacy (mostly nuclear umbrella for allies and sanctions or fucking with their facilities for enemies). with demented pedo in chief and his idiot underlings trying their hardest to undo this all, i really wouldn't be surprised if, say, south korea decides to get nuclear

Trying to figure out if that Siskind take comes from a) a lack of criticality and/or the ability to read subtext or b) some ideological agenda to erase the role of violence (threats of violence are also violence!) in change happening, or both

Nah, call it the PvP Tag.

These things look dorky as fuck, wearing them is a moral failing, and people (rightfully) treat it as grounds to shit on you, might as well lean into the "shithead nerd who ruined everything" vibe with some gratuitous gaming terminology, too.

Nice. Here's the bluesky account as well.

I think it's a piece in the long line of "AI means A and B, and A is bad and B can be good, so not all AI is bad", which isn't untrue in the general sense, but serves the interest of AIguys who aren't interested in using B, they're interested in promoting AI wholesale.

We're not in a world where we should be offering AI people any carveout; as you mention in the second half, they aren't interested in being good actors, they just want a world where AI is societally acceptable and they can become the Borg.

More directly addressing your piece, I don't think the specific examples you bring up are all that compelling. Or at least, not compared to the cost of building an AI model, especially when you bring up how it'll be cheaper than traditional alternatives.

I think that you have useful food for thought. I think that you underestimate the degree to which capitalism recuperates technological advances, though. For example, it's common for singers supported by the music industry to have pitch correction which covers up slight mistakes or persistent tone-deafness, even when performing live in concert. This technology could also be used to allow amateurs to sing well, but it isn't priced for them; what is priced for amateurs is the gimmicky (and beloved) whammy pedal that allows guitarists to create squeaky dubstep squeals. The same underlying technology is configured for different parts of capitalism.

From that angle, it's worth understanding that today's generative tooling will also be configured for capitalism. Indeed, that's basically what RLHF does to a language model; in the jargon, it creates an "agent", a synthetic laborer, based on desired sales/marketing/support interactions. We also have uses for raw generation; in particular, we predict the weather by generating many possible futures and performing statistical analysis. Style transfer will always be useful because it allows capitalists to capture more of a person and exploit them more fully, but it won't ever be adopted purely so that the customer has a more pleasant experience. Composites with object detection ("filters") in selfie-sharing apps aren't added to allow people to express themselves and be cute, but to increase the total and average time that users spend in the apps. Capitalists can always use the Shmoo, or at least they'll invest in Shmoo production in order to capture more of a potential future market.

So, imagine that we build miniature cloned-voice text-to-speech models. We don't need to imagine what they're used for, because we already know; Disney is making movies and extending their copyright on old characters, and amateurs are making porn. For every blind person using such a model with a screen reader, there are dozens of streamers on Twitch using them to read out donations from chat in the voice of a breathy young woman or a wheezing old man. There are other uses, yes, but capitalism will go with what is safest and most profitable.

Finally, yes, you're completely right that e.g. smartphones completely revolutionized filmmaking. It's important to know that the film industry didn't intend for this to happen! This is just as much of an exaptation as captialist recuperation and we can't easily plan for it because of the same difficulty in understanding how subsystems of large systems interact (y'know, plan interference.)

the piece was about ai dc buildout

Tbh, from looking it up it seems to have just been a Muslim rights org who complained it wasnt great (which seems fine), reading between the gossip lines. Also seems that the AI images were from the people who hired K3 to play not them themselves.

Nobody seems to have been mad enough to firebomb openAIs offices.

pentafecta(?)

it should be quinella but it isn't, and there isn't a nice name for it, unless you count something like "Super 5"

Well you have to assume they need $29 million alone for humans doing color correction to make it less yellow

Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind cost 1 million to make in 1984. (No idea what that would be adjusted for inflation).

I checked a few random inflation calculators, and it comes out to roughly $3.1 million.

and the budget for fixing literally every frame afterwards, as with their previous demos

OpenAI’s choices don’t make any long term sense if AGI isn’t coming. The obvious explanation is that at this point he simply plans to grift and hype (while staying technically within the bounds of legality) to buy few years of personal enrichment.

Another possibility is that Altman's bought into his own hype, and genuinely believes OpenAI will achieve AGI before the money runs out. Considering the tech press has been uncritically hyping up AI in general, and Sammy Boy himself has publicly fawned over "metafiction" "written" by an in-house text extruder, its a possibility I'm not gonna discount.

@bigfondue @techtakes

And McMahon.

Oh, it's a CXL board, Compute Express Link. Basically a way to attach DRAM to PCI Express. I know some people working on this stuff for one of the big vendors, but in that context it was a rack-scale box capable of handling multiple terabytes' worth of DIMMs. Having this as a desktop expansion card seems like a bit of a marginal application, but Gigabyte's done weird shit before. For instance, I have an AMD-compatible Thunderbolt 3 card that was only made in limited quantities by them and ASRock.