Call Me Crazy, but I for One Still Want to Know if the President Committed Depraved Sex Crimes
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I mean at this point it's trying to figure out just how many depraved sex crimes he committed
Every day is another wonderful secret...
Your right! People must be living in another planet to, at this point, still on the "if"
34 (Felonies) is the number to beat
I mean its not. Its the redmeat his base has wanted for decades and its got him throwing bags of shit out a window. Just keep pushing and don't stop.
What "the base" wants is blood in the water. We missed that opportunity as soon as Biden handed the keys to the DOJ over, back in January.
If Trump really does show up with "The List" (which isn't really a list, but a compilation of various other documents that people keep pretending is a big binder called "Names of People Who Fucked Kids" that we're going to get a copy of) and his name is emblazoned across it a thousand times... what happens next? Does Thomas Massie not vote on the next "Gut The EPA Act of 2025"? Will Trump's next court nominee fail confirmation? Do we recall our Navy from the coast of Venezuela? Is the genocide in Gaza going to end? Is it finally Mueller Time?
I've seen "Release the Epstein List!" in a thousand fundraising emails. I've heard it in speeches. I've got spam texts about it from Roganites and Third Way and Communist Party USA.
Nobody seems to be doing anything else but this. Nothing appears to be improving.
Pushing what? Don't stop what?
Are you writing your Congresscritters about this on the reg? Are you in contact with your state's District Attorney? Did you show up at the Epstein Victims Rally, after shoving your way through all the National Guard and ICE goons patrolling DC?
Or do you just mean "Don't stop posting"?
It is expedient for dividing their power & turning them against each other, something Democrats & progressives should keenly understand from so much self-infliction.
Funny you mention that: how do we know any of it actually exists outside Qanon conspiracy theories the press has reported for years? While I don't deny the expediency of myths for ruining enemies, are people outside right-wing conspiracy theory communities seriously subscribing to the idea this wasn't pulled out of some right-winger's ass?
We all know he committed depraved sex crimes. We've heard the victims. I'd just like the third party evidence released because we humans would rather believe a little black book than a living, breathing person who was a child when he raped her.
Serial rapists like him can easily have over a thousand victims since he hit puberty. That works out to slightly more than one new victim a month.
He is in the process of harming and killing so many orders of magnitude more people by both his direct and indirect actions.
He is a rapist - probably still hurting people that way now; a thug and a murderer.
People are concerned about his previous victims; and many more Americans are going to die or be hurt from him in the next three years. Including perhaps some reading this.
Well fucking said.
I agree that they should release the files. However, not everything is a distraction from that like people on this site seem to believe.
In many cases, the exact opposite is true.
I'm not sure it even matters because anyone who isn't his supporter already knows and anyone who IS probably believes in alternative facts instead.
Testimony isn't infallible. Quite a bit of science & the Innocence Project to back that up.
Sure. But we've got an awful lot of victims who claimed this independent of each other, and they got paid off, and we know there's a black book even if they won't show it to us.
That's a reasonable basis to expect conclusive evidence to exist & search for it. Unless that evidence turns up, we don't conclusively know.
Do we? There's
released a while ago. That black book in particular is inconclusive of anything.
Maybe you're referring to a more damning black book, but the press so far has written that claims it exists come from speculation & myth. It's possible it exists, but I don't think we know it.
Raping E. Jean Carroll not depraved enough for them? How low is the bar here?
Quite low, as it turns out. Linked at the end of this article was this depressing read of Trump supporters saying "Get over it."
Every day I'm shocked more victims don't cut off dicks. Imagine where we'd be if one of his first victims castrated his ass.
Castration is cutting off the balls, cutting off the dick is a penectomy.
I am completely certain he would find some way to try and make himself the victim and most likely open a lawsuit against his "aggressor"
Didn't he rape Melania as well?
DJT's reasoning, probably.
It was close, spousal rape wasn't explicitly illegal at the time he did it
And his first wife Ivana.
You're crazy! (You asked)
The other things you said are, to my knowledge, correct.
Release the Trump/Epstein files
Of course he did. The ones he’s been found guilty of at least. But with how much he doesn’t want the files out there’s definitely some extra ones in there.
You're crazy, but not because you want to know this stuff. Anyone in their right mind should want to know (and a few of us crazies want to know too).
Sadly, we know things like this have already proven to be true.
Donald Trump is a rapist.
Getting more information on it, would only serve to prove how much he's committed these acts. Nothing more.
At this point, I'm not sure if he's not guilty of anything, really. Every time I turn around there seems to be evidence, a conviction, or at least a strong probability that the cheeto has broken some law. I think it would be better just to make a bingo card from the laws we don't know that he's broken, so when it comes to light that he did, indeed break those laws, we can have a little fun yelling "bingo!" As our cards fill up.
I'd be a little surprised if he's personally committed any murders; I'd be shocked if he hasn't ordered any committed
Donald Trump is a high functioning psychopath. People like him drive others to suicide and order lesser idiots to do the killing for him, and usually in an indirect manner to avoid any direct culpability.
So is he responsible for some classic old fashion murder? Yes, but did he actually kill anyone with his own hands? I doubt it.
Bingo. I doubt he's personally pulled the trigger because I doubt he wants to get his hands dirty; he has people for that
We've answered this question. The answer is yes. The follow on question "does America care", appears to be a resounding "nope".
"Care" is a spectrum. Taken as an aggregate, I'd say America is somewhere above, "frowny face" and somewhere below "getting shot to death by the National Guard while vainly storming the White House."
It turns out storming the white house doesn’t seem to even actually do anything.
Spoiler Alert: He did, Trump is a rapist pedo.
Subjectively i have little doubt this is true. And my faith for legal institutions to do what is right is rather low.
That said, has it been legally proven in court that he raped (a child)?
I dont need evidence for me, i need it for when i talk to other people and they ask about such evidence. Regardless of how obvious it is the norm remains innocent till proven guilty.
He was going to be, before his 14yo accuser was forced to withdrawal her accusation after her and her family received a deluge of death and rape threats from Trump supporters.
Linking to sources on that would be useful.
Nope.
Shouldn't that concern you?
I am very concerned. The average person seems scared to make realistic conclusion based on very observable information, almost requiring a perceived authority to first point out the obvious in order to see the problem to begin with.
Still we should keep trying to push to get as "official" proof as we can get, if not because it helps barring against bad actors who are trying to discredit reason but also because for some reason the fascist is particularly more upset about this then other things. If he had any ability to keep himself together and coordinate with intelligence he could have swept this under a rug much easier.
I don't need a court to tell me Trump is a huge piece of shit, I have my eyes and my ears.
Were in agreement about that.
Not sure whar your point is, unless your saying you will take him to jail personally and don’t require the rest of idiocratic society to do so. Good luck.
You already know he did
We already know, so what are you really saying?
He is saying, "I'm going to keep bringing this up every chance I get."
Trump appreciates it. It reinforces his witch hunt narrative while absolutely nothing is going to be done about it. In the mean time, Trump can continue taking a steaming shit all over the constitution because everyone is distracted with the fact that he's sex offender.
Spoiler alert …he did
i mean we know he did it. we’ve seen the evidence and testimony. this fascist won’t fall because of these charges; he’s already a convicted felon and has been impeached before…
and sadly thanks to modern american marketing an distraction, this won’t inspire revolution either. :(
this is just distraction from the fact that he’s still supporting a fucking genocide.
Schrodinger's Pedo. he could have committed the crimes, he could be innocent.
neither outcome is going to threaten his power. thats the problem, the Files could come out tonight, doctored, or legit, and regardless of what happens, he'll still be the President tommorow, and GOP Congress will never impeach him.
He did. We know this. Proven in court.
How varied those crimes were, remains to be fully proven.
We know he did. I want to know all of them. And then I want to see the Americans do absolutely nothing about it because that will just be the starkest on its face proof of the reality of that lazy ass do nothing culture. It will shatter all of that countries veil of moral superiority over the rest of the world.
It will shatter nothing. More kids have been shot in schools than ever visited the island, and thoughts and prayers is the only answer. If literally dead kids don't prove anything, neither will a list of names. It will be called a hoax, a witch hunt, and quickly forgotten.
By Americans maybe. But not by the rest of the world.
Which already have abysmal opinions of the guy, plus it's irrelevant...
We do know, because he did
He bragged about some of them.
Hi Crazy, I want to know too.
He is a disgusting pervert. Pure evil. Im not saying I would attempt anything against him, but I guarantee I wouldn't notice ANYTHING if someone else happened to do so.
I'd like to know whether he's stopped.
You sound like a StuPid DEMONRAT for Wanting to Know if the President RAPED CHILDREN!
You already know he did, and you're just asking him nicely to admit it.
It's time to revolt, but that requires recognizing that he's not the only one on the list "list", and that Democrats are also on the list.
It's very stupid to keep asking them nicely to release the evidence of their own crimes, on both sides. It's time to revolt.
If anything, and there's a million reasons before now this should have happened, but there needs to be a "million woman march" on capital hill.
Americans need to start fucking standing up. Stop talking about it and fucking so it.
For the reasons
Do I really need to fucking go on? Wake the fuck up America!
Yes, He did!? 🙄
Serial child rape? Yeah, everybody wants to know that so that we can
judge him fairlyhopefully finally have a bipartisan reason to bury him that the GOP can't defend or dodge anymore.The GOP official policy is that they are in favor of everything that Trump does, so at this point they’re just waiting to find out all of the specific, nauseating things that they stand for. I’m sure they’re just quivering with anticipation.
They'll find the mental gymnastics, trust.
Trump gets GOP elected due to his popularity
In the political parties don't actually represent the people
You talkin’ about ol’ President Pedorapist? I can’t say for certain. Oh wait. Yes I can.
Your crazy, "In a crazy world, it is the sane who are called crazy"
I for two
I want real change. Real justice.
I’m sorry, but powerful people hate that sort of thing.
Yeah don't hold your breath.
What, like, evidence and stuff?