PCM moving to Piefed.social
Hey everyone! We're moving to Piefed.social! You can find the comm at
(this link might work if you're on Fedia) [email protected]
Hope to see everyone there!
Feed for all migrated comms here: https://piefed.social/f/pugmigration
Will I need to change my account to participate?
Nope! Piefed is compatible with Lemmy instances, so you can keep using your current account! All you have to do is hit 'unsubscribe' on PCM on Lemmy.world, and hit 'subscribe' on PCM on Piefed.social
After that, just participate as you normally would!
Why move the comm?
Nothing in particular against Lemmy.world - the admins here have made some amateurish mistakes, but I'm willing to accept that we're all human and running a big instance is not easy, especially for a volunteer team. The issue is with the Lemmy devs.
There's been long-standing tension with the Lemmy devs - namely, that they use their influence over their flagship instance - .ml - to enforce the removal of acknowledgements of incidents of genocide and imperialism that they like. If you're morbidly curious, [email protected] documents this, with things like acknowledgement of the Holodomor or refutation of the claim that Ukraine deserves to be genocided by modern Russia being removed by dev/admin fiat.
This places users who are not genocide deniers or supporters in an awkward position - namely, that either we refrain from contributing to the devs - damaging the longevity of the platform we're using - or that we contribute to them despite their horrific views - enabling them to continue spreading and creating a space for genocide denial.
With that in mind (and I was a Kbin user initially precisely because of my discomfort with the Lemmy devs - I hope Ernest is okay, wherever he is), I've been keeping an eye out for a viable Lemmy Fediverse alternative for a while now. Piefed's main dev has a good head on his shoulders, and it appears to be a robust platform. I think Piefed is ready, and I'm just medicated enough at the moment to make the effort of revving up the comms from scratch and writing up this screed.
Why Piefed.social specifically?
A good question. I considered Piefed.world, as the organization .world belongs to is larger than Lemmy/Piefed and robust. Anarchist.nexus was right out, on account of it being an offshoot of dbzer0, whose admins have chosen to indulge in very concerning Uyghur genocide denial and tolerating Holodomor denial on its instance. Ultimately I decided to give Piefed.social a chance on account of a coherent core mission statement in favor of democracy and rational discourse.
What will happen to this comm?
Well, I won't be participating in it anymore except to remind people of the move, and hopefully most users will follow suit and join the Piefed.social community. I'll stick around to remove spam, but that's about it.
Why? do get the problem with the Lemmy devs, and I would understand it if it was lemmy.ml, but it isn't, it's Lemmy.world, which isn't related to / owned by the Lemmy devs.
Ultimately, Lemmy.world is using the devs work, which, as I noted in the body, leaves users in an awkward position - either we're using Lemmy but not contributing to the sustainment of its code or development, or else we're contributing to devs who make a space for genocide denial.
Lemmy.world branching out to Piefed with Piefed.world is part and parcel of this. I did consider Piefed.world instead of Piefed.social, like I said.
Again with this? Despite Blaze pushing that narrative, I wasn't a part of the decisionmaking of 196's move. I didn't advocate for the move after I left Blahaj. I wasn't even in contact with the 196 mods.
I'm sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I deleted that part of my comment.
But I don't see the problem in using Lemmy and not contributing to the development. You can support other servers like Lemmy.world and help the platform, but explicitly show that you don't support people with that awful views.
It's fine. It happens. Games of telephone, and all that.
This isn't meant as a condemnation of anyone still using Lemmy.world. I'm not trying to assert that people who use Lemmy are supporting the devs' awful views.
My point is that Lemmy's long-term health depends on the codebase being sustained, an issue separate from sustaining individual servers like Lemmy.world - the codebase being sustained and developed depends on donations to the devs - and the devs are shitheads.
I'm using the Jerboa app. Is it possible to access the new instance from here or do I need to use a different method to see it?
I'm not too familiar with any of the apps, but you should be able to access the new comm just fine with it.