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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 7th September 2025

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

https://awful.systems/post/5394339Open linkView original on awful.systems
nightskyreply
awful.systems

Why is it always transphobia with these kinds of people... is it because they feel racism is too risky? So they need a different outlet for hating on people based on what they believe is "science"?

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the answer to all those is yes. To synthesise the bigger idea, as the saying goes: scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds. Gladwell caters to a huge audience that is centrist, leaning somewhat liberal (though he flirts constantly with race science and straight up racism, see his writings on Korean Air). As liberals move towards fascism, so must he. Of course, it’s the most marginalised that are going to be targeted first.

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Soyweiserreply
awful.systems

that “90%” of the audience was “on [Tucker’s] side” but had been unwilling to admit it.

Why are transphobes always this full of shit. Polls always disagree with this, and it cant be 'people are afraid to speak out out of fear', as there seem to be very little consequences to just being a lowkey transphobe. Hell even raging transphobes who stalk people, assault kids, and call for violence in what can only be called a life destroying obsession with trans people get defended by the people in power. There is very little reason for people to lie on polls over this.

Also dislike the focus on 'trans women' as these whole shitty arguments forget trans men exist. (This seems to be a general problem sadly, trans men, same as intersex people, or detransitioners tend to be only brought up like gotcha arguments, and not much to discuss the different problems they also face. Obv, I'm also doing that here, so I'm not immune)

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mastodon.cloud

@Soyweiser @swlabr Reminds me.of Nixon's weird claim of being backed by a "silent majority."

I've heard two versions of this from historians. One claims that he was deluded enough to claim that everyone actually secretly backed him and was just unwilling to actually say so for some reason.
The other said that he meant the dead, on his quest to throw more lives at a cause that has already claimed so many.

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Soyweiserreply
awful.systems

Populist groups pull that shit a lot. Wilders also keeps claiming we should all do what he wants because people voted for him (a scary and depressingly large group, but not a total majority). It is a way of trying to get more democratic power behind you than you should really have looking at the democratic support you have alone at least in the case of politics. It also is often just delusional.

I recall a neo-nazi guy being kicked from a bar once while he loudly (and alone, the whole place fell silent, was a massive vibe shift) started to sing what I think was the horst wessel song (I was not familiar with the song at the time, so this is my guess), and while he was being kicked out he shouted that everybody else agreed with him and was just afraid to say it. Whole group of metalheads/etc like that suddenly silent and a vibe of 'something shit is going down'. Was a weird moment.

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awful.systems

fuck, i can't imagine someone doing this, even though we do have fascists and neonazis in poland, but man, horst-wessel-lied is a fist-in-the-face offence level.

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Yeah Im not totally sure it was that song, but it was a neonazi/nazi song, and he was ejected very fast by the bartenders.

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I just found out the name of Scott Alexander's psychiatry practice (Lorien Psychiatry) is a Lord of the Rings reference, so my guess as to direct Thiel money just went way up

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awful.systems

The common clay of the new west:

::: spoiler transcript ChatGPT has become worthless

[Business & Professional]

I’m a paid member and asked it to help me research a topic and write a guide and it said it needed days to complete it. That’s a first. Usually it could do this task on the spot.

It missed the first deadline and missed 5 more. 3 weeks went by and it couldn’t get the task done. Went to Claude and it did it in 10 minutes. No idea what is going on with ChatGpt but I cancelled the pay plan.

Anyone else having this kind of issue? :::

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froztbytereply
awful.systems

I am extremely, extremely sickos.png for having all these weird little fucks find out that all this nonsense is heavily subsidised by VCs

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Same here. The world's been forced to deal with these promptfucks ruining everything they touch for literal years at this point, some degree of schadenfreude at their expense was sorely fucking needed.

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replacing ChatGPT with a script that replies "Great, I'll finish that for you by ${Date.Now() + 86400}"

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swlabrreply
awful.systems
>50 min read  
>”why company has perverse incentives”
>no mention of capitalism

rationalism.mpeg

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scruiserreply
awful.systems

Every time I see a rationalist bring up the term "Moloch" I get a little angrier at Scott Alexander.

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“Moloch”, huh? What are we living in, some kind of demon-haunted world?

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Others were alarmed and advocated internally against scaling large language models. But these were not AGI safety researchers, but critical AI researchers, like Dr. Timnit Gebru.

Here we see rationalists approaching dangerously close to self-awareness and recognizing their whole concept of "AI safety" as marketing copy.

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awful.systems

As a CS student, I wonder why us and artists are always the one who are attacked the most whenever some new "insert tech stuff" comes out. And everyone's like: HOLY SHIT PROGRAMMERS AND ARTISTS ARE DEAD, without realizing that most of these things are way too crappy to actually be... good enough to replace us?

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lemmy.vg

My guess would be because most people don’t understand what you all actually do so gen AI output looks to them like their impression of the work you do. Just look at the game studios replacing concept artists with Midjourney, not grasping what concept art even is for and screwing up everyone’s workflow as a result.

I’m neither a programmer nor an artist I can sorta understand how people get fooled. Show me a snippet of nonsense code or image and I’ll nod along if you say it’s good. But then as a writer (even if only hobbyist) I am able to see how godawful gen AI writing is whereas some non-writers won’t, and so I extrapolate from that since it’s not good at the thing I have domain expertise in, it probably isn’t good at the things I don’t understand.

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

Show me a snippet of nonsense code or image and I’ll nod along if you say it’s good.

Smirk I’m in.

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I feel like aggressive proponents of genAI are so because they are intimidated and/or jealous of the people they say they will replace. They lack the skills and critical thinking to become good at the task they want to replace, but also unwilling or unable to put in the work.

Instead of reckoning with this, they construct a phantasm where artists are "gatekeeping art", and genAI is going to disrupt that gatekeeping. Meanwhile I think deep down they know that what genAI produces is derivative by definition, and not "real art" by any means.

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awful.systems

Promptfondlers on lobste.rs are unhappy about the tag "vibecoding", used to denote development using GenAI. I'd not recommend reading the thread, just want to observe that if slop coding had actually taken the coding world by storm, I doubt there would be much pearl clutchign about how slop-slingers are treated on the site. We're talking about people willing to pay Scam Altman money monthly after all.

https://lobste.rs/s/gkzmfy/let_s_rename_vibecoding_tag_llms

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awful.systems

he now pretends he didn't appeal for banning participants in the discussion, just the topic.

i shouldn't, but i'm really disappointed finding out how much a nasty manipulative little shit he is.

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geriksonreply
awful.systems

I know think the endgoal is for them to convince the mods that anything critical of GenAI is off topic and they should nuke the comments. Just "neutral" discourse, please, "we only care about the technology".

Given that mod pushcx was the one who actually added the tag in the first place, I'm not sure their cunning plan will work, but who knows?

At least the About page has had more visitors than any other time in the site's history...

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it's a pure reputation laundering attempt, and should be recognized as such. (lol, got really heavily flagged there.)

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yeah as I posted elsewhere on fedi, all of this feels like reputation and perception laundering (as I see flere also says below)

I wish them much moan and a very cry, but they shouldn't get away with this nonsense

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I'd only seen some of his other writing previously, and even that was full of some "oh woe is me" uwu burnout shit (which read tonedeaf as fuck to me, knowing this fucker probably barely had their means impacted by that), but this... ugh. ranking any of his shit even lower now

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Yeah I noticed him too.

Lots of quite old accounts that haven't posted in years appear in those comments.

In contrast, the ones in the threads appealing the ban of friendlysock were a bit newer.

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

Oh Abundance, the repackaging of Reaganomics by liberals to court conservatives, is having a conference and has booked right wing speakers? Nobody could have predicted this

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OpenPhilanthropy has been seeding (b) a bit of money to local liberal activist groups but (a) guys to get them to do Abundance shit, under that name, then the guys play coy about the EA agenda

source: talking to people wondering who the fuck these weirdos were. they said "OpenPhilanthropy" and I went "ohhh boy have I got some disconcerting news for you"

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

I looked into this because I was curious. There's a wikipedia article that discusses abundance, titled "supply-side progressivism")

So it appears the earliest mention of liberal tinted Reaganomics is Miles Kimball's opening blog post "What is a Supply-Side Liberal" on his blog "Confessions of a Supply-Side Liberal." I am not going to investigate his politics at any real depth, so I'd say he's mostly a liberal/centrist.

I think my understanding of "abundance" before reading that wiki page was that known liberal quantities Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson wrote a book on it, and therefore must have invented it.

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iosdev.space

@swlabr

oh no Kimball: "Astral Codex Ten—and its prior incarnation, Slate Star Codex—is one of my favorite blogs. "

Another link he posted last year: "Richard Hanania's Argument for Legalizing Euthanasia"

Also he seems to be more of a "classical liberal" than what people tend to consider a liberal in the left-of-center sense.

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istewartreply
awful.systems

"Classical liberal" usually registers to me as a libertarian/paleoconservative trying to mainstream themselves.

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

that's a big oof from me dawg.

RE: "liberal" as a label: the way that I define "liberal" is pretty much purely in the classical sense, and it still covers the "modern" "left-of-center" sense, because someone who claims to be a left-liberal that still supports the underlying liberal politics is actually disconnected from any actual leftist ideology. Most left-liberals are willing to throw actual leftists and leftist causes under the bus so that their sports team party can get into power.

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@swlabr

When I said "repackaged by conservatives to court liberals" I was using 'liberal' in the common sloppy American sense where it just means someone on the center left to left, as opposed to the "progressive shop talk" sense of "ratfucking centrists".

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Ah yes, im a classical liberal of the style of Locke how he thought about slavery, that kind of classical stuff.

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scruiserreply
awful.systems

Putting this into the current context of LLMs... Given how Eliezer still repeats the "diamondoid bacteria" line in his AI-doom scenarios, even multiple decades after Drexler has both been thoroughly debunked and slightly contributed to inspiring real science, I bet memes of LLM-AGI doom and utopia will last long after the LLM bubble pops.

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I mean the AGI part is basically magic. If LLMs aren't actually the way to build it then it doesn't change the underlying belief any more than the failure of expert systems or cybercyn or whatever else.

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Eliezer came from the extropian newsgroups/mailinglists iirc. So it is quite connected.

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awful.systems

did he actually contribute anything other than chemists nicking the name "nanotechnology"?

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awful.systems

after that Flock shit that got announced recently, looks like garry tan is currently doing his damnedest to ensure people know he's absolutely full of it

thread starts here, features bangers like this

You're thinking Chinese surveillance

US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims

"nooooo, we're the good kind of boot to have on your face! we're the boot from the same country as you!" says the boot in the rising fascist upswing

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istewartreply
awful.systems

your periodic reminder: don't listen to Garry Tan, unless maybe he's doing a tequila review

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froztbytereply
awful.systems

oh absolutely no intention of listening to the dork, just had to share the suffering once I saw the tweet

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awful.systems

Where the fuck has that guy been for 20 years? I've seen that happen many times with junior programmers during my 20 years of experience.

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froztbytereply
awful.systems

also from a number of devs who went borderline malicious compliance in "adopting tdd/testing" but didn't really grok the assignment

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At a recent job, I definitely saw malicious compliance/incompetence when it came to writing tests. My team and I would work hard to retrofit tests into older functionality and adjacent teams if they bothered to write tests would avoid testing anything of consequence.

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The blatant covering for the confabulated zip code is some peak boosterism. It knows what an address looks like and that some kind of postal code has to go there, and while it was pretty close I would still expect that to get returned to sender. Pretty close isn't good enough.

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Yeah, didn't even cross their mind that it could be wrong, because it looked ok.

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awful.systems

Does somebody have a rundown or something on DJB? All of the tantrum throwing has me confused over what his deal is.

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Sibling comment is important recent stuff. Historically, the most important tantrum he's thrown is DJB v USA in 1995, where he insisted that folks in the USA have a First Amendment right to publish source code. He also threw a joint tantrum with two other cryptographers over the Dual EC DRBG scandal after Snowden revealed its existence in 2013. He's scored real wins against the USA for us, which is why his inability to be polite is often tolerated.

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froztbytereply
awful.systems

noted for advancements in cryptography, and “stayed impartial” (iirc not quite defending, but also not acknowledging nor distancing) when the jacob appelbaum shit hit wider knowledge

probably about all you need to know in a nutshell

the most recent shit before this when I recall seeing his name pop up was when he was causing slapfight around Kyber (ML-KEM) in the cryptography spaces, but I don’t have links at hand

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awful.systems

there's a bit more; tanja lange, a notable cryptographer herself and djb's partner was appelbaum's phd advisor (and didn't drop him after he got outed as a rapist).

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awful.systems

I was thinking about ethics in game journalism in software engineering and I think it might be easier to create a whitelist than a blacklist:

What are some serious software/hardware companies that have NOT participated in the AI bubble? No AI nonsense in their marketing slides, no mentions of AI on their landing page, etc.

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I was planning to mention Procreate as well, but felt like that'd be spamming the replies a bit.

On a wider note, I expect it'll be primarily art-related software/hardware companies that will have avoided AI participation - with how utterly artists have rejected the usage of AI, and resisted its intrusion into their spaces, the companies working with them likely view rejecting AI as an easy way of earning good PR with their users, and embracing it as a business liability at best, and a one-way trip past the trust thermocline at worst.

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Gonna cheat a little bit and put one-woman consultancy firm/personal blog deadSimpleTech up as an example. The sole member is Iris Meredith, whose involvement begins and ends at publicly lambasting AI's continued shittiness.

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Kind of generic: I am a researcher and recently started a third party funded project where I won't teach for a while. I kinda dread what garbage fire I'll return to in a couple of years when I teach again, how much AI slop will be established on the sides of teachers and students.

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Out: 'getting paid in exposure'

In: 'when you are done, just send your invoice to chatgpt'

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awful.systems

there's a place called r/nuclearweapons where people come, collect declassified and FOIA'd info, do some maths and speculate on how nukes work. 7d ago they had an incident where reddit admin removed a couple of posts from one user https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclearweapons/comments/1n4c1i3/we_had_a_thing_happen/ head mod stepped down in a response

four days later this thing surfaced https://www.reddit.com/r/nuclearweapons/comments/1n75vej/our_schmuck_from_doge/ linked article https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5464437-ai-nuclear-weapon-detection/

so probable sequence of events is that someone from anthropic talked up some bozo from doe or somewhere else, bozo from doe ran confabulation engine on some part of internet, and then notified/threatened reddit admin, who complied by removing some rando's account. whoa they must have saved quadrillions of americans by that brave action

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96% accuracy. So... unusable. That is an extremely high rate of failure.

Imagine how often it triggers on just people talking about hearts of iron 4 alone.

E: read more about it:

we achieved a 94.8% detection rate for nuclear weapons queries and zero false positives

'zero false positives' Sure bud.

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why is everything about these people so fucking stupid

access to nukes is limited by availability of fissile material. not maths of it, not supremely complex engineering because it's not that hard, not by money, not by access to ores, not anything else. it just requires one of two very specific, expensive and slightly dangerous to operate facilities which is well within budget of any serious state actor and unless diplomatic or military action is taken, a state that decides to get nukes will get them. this is the case now and has been for the last 50 years or so

but yeah some idiots wowed by chatbot will Save the World. this also puts that weird block on claude's biology topic filter in much stupider and doomerist light e: it does not escape my attention that thehill ran an article based entirely on anthropic blog post

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awful.systems

Not worthy of a third post imho, but Scott made the trilogy post: https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=9108 where he is subtlety walking back his insane, proudly kid killing claim to the more reasonable, Israel needs to defeat hamas, claim.

For a man angry about his detractors being intellectually dishonest(**), this is very typical:

Incredibly, commenters on Peter Woit’s blog then blamed me for this antisemitic image, mistakenly imagining that I’d created it myself, and then used their false assumption as further proof of my mental illness

For context, it was an AI slop image, and he named it after Woit, and didn't provide any details from the email itself. While the whole affair is quite a good reason to at least put this persons name/email out there imho.

But also:

I’m even grateful, in a way, to SneerClub, and to Woit and his minions. I’m grateful to them for so dramatically confirming that I’m not delusional: some portion of the world really is out to get me. I probably overestimated their power, but not their malevolence. [...]

His ability to lack self-awareness and reading skills remains bad. The power thing was partially in his first blogpost already, where he realized the 'manhaters' were just a small group. And the latter makes no sense unless you hold the random cartoon guy (who nobody here or at Woit expressed support for) as the consensus, and actual sc people, or fans of Peter.

The last part is just nuts, whole bit of Rationalization why he is actually justified, and will change the world. Not realizing everyone was horrified because he created a thought experiment to justify a genocide:

Reading the SneerClubbers’ armchair diagnoses of my severe mental illness, paranoia, persecution complex, grandiosity, etc. etc. I had the following thought, paraphrasing Shaw:

Yes, they’re absolutely right that psychologically well-adjusted people generally do figure out how to adapt themselves to the reigning morality of their social environment—as indicated by the Asch conformity test, the Milgram electric-shock experiment, and the other classics of social psychology.

It takes someone psychologically troubled, in one way or another, to persist in trying to adapt the reigning morality of their social environment to themselves.

If so, however, this suggests that all the moral progress of humanity depends on psychologically troubled people—a realization for which I’m deeply grateful.

this bit opens up so much questions, remarks and is just silly in some ways. Yes people who are dissatisfied will push for change, why is this a revelation? But do they have the power? Is it justified? Jared Taylor(*) also pushes for a changed morality system, but I wouldn't consider that desirable. It also leaves out that people will push for change because they just want to profit from it. Which is likely a lot bigger driver of change see the libertarian ls pushing for less regulations, because the dumb and distracted deserve to be scammed.

Anyway we got called out twice!

*: a white nationalist piece of shit who from what I heard is notable because compared to his peers he isnt a raging anti-Semite. At least not openly. **: Edit: as nobody mentioned the whole 'Peter is intellectually dishonest' affair, I have to say one thing. Peter is imho not intellectually dishonest for leaving out that the people who tie their children on the traintrack could stop at any time. The people who don't mention this just don't think it is a convincing argument. Yes people who take hostages could release the hostages at any time, still no reason to shoot through the hostages. Derail the trolley! The way Russia dealt with the Opera hostage crisis was considered bad for a reason (I hope I don't have to point out that the hostage takers also were in the wrong here). Forgot who it was who mentioned it here, but the whole 'I would be glad to not flip the switch' is one of the fucked up parts, it would scar people for life to make that choice.

Another edit: While thinking I realized the whole disgusting email thing is also partially due to the asshole filter effect of Scott closing his comments (which was smart tbh, he just should have told the people emailing him to fuck off): https://siderea.dreamwidth.org/1209794.html. Left a hopefully thoughtful comment (I looked at it just from the comments closing aspect and not with the further conflict in mind, as I have not begun to think about that, and don't want to think about it in context of what Scott wrote in his first blog post) about this on Peters blog. Not sure if he will let it through the moderation (and it is fine if he doesn't, and I doubt he will as he seemingly just closed the comments and went on vacation, have a good one Peter, apologies that your blog became a battleground over this). But I thought the concept was important enough as an idea to share, and also explains why you get the more shitty people to try and react when you go 'please don't react to here'. A thing we should also be aware of how the drive by commenters (which was worse on reddit) tend to be the sediment of the crop.

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Shamelessly reproduced from the other place:

A quick summary of his last three posts:

"Here's a thought experiment I came up with to try to justify the murder of tens of thousands of children."

"Lots of people got mad at me for my last post; have you considered that being mad at me makes me the victim and you a Nazi?"

"I'm actually winning so much right now: it's very normal that people keep worriedly speculating that I've suffered some sort of mental breakdown."

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awful.systems

I’m even grateful, in a way, to SneerClub, and to Woit and his minions. I’m grateful to them for so dramatically confirming that I’m not delusional: some portion of the world really is out to get me. I probably overestimated their power, but not their malevolence. […]

Honestly what he should actually be grateful for is how all his notoriety ever amounted to^[1]^ was a couple of obscure forums going 'look at this dumb asshole' and moving on.

He is an insecure and toxic serial overreactor with shit opinions and a huge unpopular-young-nerd chip on his shoulder, and who comes off as being one mildly concerted troll effort away from a psych ward at all times. And probably not even that, judging from Graham Linehan's life trajectory.

[1] besides Siskind using him to broaden his influence on incels and gamer gaters.

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Soyweiserreply
awful.systems

While this is close to 'look at what you made me do territory'. We would sneer a lot less at him if he didn't blame us for everything. 'people who sneer made covid worse' (not the direct quote) for example was just silly, and if you look at the reaction of sneerclub at the time also not in the realm of reality. (But yes he will just say he said sneer by which he didn't mean sneerclub but people like us in general. Which is obv not a thing I fully agree with, but good motte/bailey).

It also is interesting, as Scott compared to the others we sneer at never really seems to break containment so to speak. I have seen people talk about Aella on bsky for example, Scott Alexander, Eliezer, lesswrong, EA, etc all come up. But Scott almost never does. (Yes, the 'untitled' affair was public, but that was a decade ago, and 6 months before r/sneerclub was created (and long before I joined) and also the whole broaden influence thing as you mentioned). And after all why should he, he is just a random professor, the only reason he is relevant for the broader picture is that he agrees with the AI doom stuff, and he gives the LW people some level of prestige (the only times I have brought him up is because he confirmed that Yarvin spends time personally emailing prestigious people like him but that is about Moldy). He is prob the only one whos sneering is just contained to sneerclub/awful.systems (which is why he should stop reading sc, he prob should also ignore more blog comments and emails (block Yarvin's email Scott, do it!)).

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I feel like he's also broadly misunderstood the actual armchair diagnosis from over here. Like, no acknowledgement of claims that he's stuck in a broken and obviously false framing of the entire world as "popular jocks" vs "put-up on nerds" and seems to match literally any conflict into that model to often horrifying results. Even though that was the main thrust of the actual "diagnosis" that he referenced.

Past a certain point I think anyone who doesn't agree with and support him has been fully excluded from the circle of people who can actually get through to him and help. Unfortunately, he's still a public figure, leaving the rest of us with little to do beyond sneering.

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Getting love bombed in that rationalist con he went to recently probably didn't help matters.

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Soyweiserreply
awful.systems

Gonna repost a bit from comment I left on reddit:

Read swlabrs reply first btw.

Anyway, something useful perhaps, the World Central Kitchen seems to help out with the famine so donating to them might be useful, see comment below. Donate to the UNRWA organisation instead. Not comfortable donating on a link provided by a random user (smart!), or want something to show for your donation, the current Humble book bundle is donating to the WCK (do not forget to adjust the sliders) and you get a nice collection of Martha Wells books (The Murderbot saga is great). Or buy the play for peace bundle which is donating to the UNRWA USA, and get a shitton of games and other stuff. (All links are affiliate free from my end, I know there is a system setup for Humble stuff, but I don't use that).

E: buying the last one is also a fun way to boost yourself into Spiders Georg levels of video game ownership. So you could do it for that joke alone. Just to claim you own ~300 videogames.

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swlabrreply
awful.systems

I’ve followed Jose Andres on insta for about 6 years now, and while I’d love to only have nice things to say about him and WCK, I know that there is resentment/resistance to the actions of WCK, for good reason. This is the first thing that pops up, a page detailing how WCK works with the IDF and how that is not in the best interests of Palestine. What’s also really gross, ghoulish and troublesome is that, despite the fact that Israel has literally killed WCK volunteers, Andres still works with them, and is largely pro-israel. That being said, everything about this is fucked anyway and I imagine that if you’re donating, your heart is in the right place. But, uh, yeah, adjust those sliders.

E: ok I have fully read the page. Fuck Andres, fuck WCK, please do not donate to them. Donate to UNRWA instead, or any organisation that is actually willing to call what Israel is doing a genocide.

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Thanks for the info, will link this comment on reddit as well. Edited both posts, and yeah I just knew of both book/game projects and was going via that, used the humble link first that is why WCK came out on top and not UNRWA.

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awful.systems

ran across this

Kaminski told SiliconANGLE in an interview he was inspired to launch the company after seeing how long and difficult it was for medical technology firms to bring innovations to market.

“Everything that’s meaningful is regulated,” Kaminski said. “I didn’t even comprehend how hard it could be.”

“I could code that in a weekend” techbro meets decades-grown safety nets, is very surprised at complexity

I haven’t dug deeper into their thing yet but some of the claims are a bit 🤨 too

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awful.systems

Ultra trivialization is the blood of tech bros. Everything is so easy and everyone else is just so clueless. Boy met computer through hello world and thought that’s the pinnacle of computer science.

How long til some bright eyed influencer dev tries to take on JPL and MISRA? It’s always some middleware garbage these startups make and never a QNX competitor.

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“Qnx is hard and expensive, I’m sure we could get a production quality thing out with the esp-idf arduino target!!~ You devs so like to blow things out of proportion”

(while not an exact quote, extremely close to some shit I’ve heard from some people before)

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“The biggest problem is that it used to take about 50 pages to prove the system works, like a scalpel, but today… that could take 10,000 pages,” Kaminski explained. “And you need to make 10,000 pages every time you make a new version. It’s just really, really difficult to make so much proof as products become more software and AI-driven.”

Methinks that scalpel is a tad simpler than insulin pump, and considering that sometimes, there are unpatchable vulns found in the latter, i'd really prefer not to see vibecoded driver for these kind of things. Would match nicely with vibe-lawyered compliance docs

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It's really only a matter of time before we get an assassination via bluetooth-enabled pacemaker or something, and it's going to be hell.

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ah yes, that great mark of certainty and product security, when you have to unleash pitbulls to patrol the completely not dangerous park that everyone can totally feel at ease in

(and of course I bet the damn play is a resource exhaustion attack on critics, isn’t it)

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awful.systems

I don't think it's a resource exhaustion attack as much as a combination of legitimate paranoia (the consequence of a worldview where only billionaires are capable of actual agency) and attempt to impose that on reality by reverse-astroturfing any opposition by tying it to other billionaire AI bros.

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heh you may be right, they certainly do appear to be that flavour of delusional

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I didnt know anything about him, not even who he was, but DuckDuckGo search suggestions suggested I search for him and mgtow, so the search engine knew. First link shows he isn't mgtow, he is a masculinist. https://profhugodegaris.wordpress.com/masculisting-the-mgtows/

His wikipage on his beliefs is wild. Legit beliefs skynet or eclipse phases TITANs will attack.

Quote from his site a free book he provides: "MASCULISM : Men’s Rebellion Against Being Manslaves to Women, An e-Textbook of 370+ Masculist Flyers for Men’s Studies Courses”"

Manslaves rise up you have nothing to lose but your money in the divorce as half your stuff was hers anyway.

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The more you read the worse it gets. And sadly, no all these manosphere dweebs write like this.

(A lot of them also credit Heartiste, which is why his popularity, enough for Scott to publish the anti-heartiste faq, which he didnt write. Was such a bad sign. (Also the guy is a neo-nazi racist, openly hated black and jewish people)).

Edit: And from Hugos blog: (source: https://profhugodegaris.wordpress.com/masctemp/)

"With a video you get not only the content, but can also see the emotion behind the content. Initially I only put up a video link to YouTube, but since the CEO of YouTube is a Jewish feminazi who censors and even terminates whole masculist and MGTOW video channels"

Look anti-Semitism. The fucker.

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First thought: "Who?"

Second thought: "No, Hugo"

Anyway, I know nothing about this guy. His wiki page listed an imdb page, and know you get to know that he has a Bacon number of 3.

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I love how it’s a public ledger of transactions so once a wallet can be identified to an owner, everyone can see what you’ve done. Not very great system to keep anonymous.

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And if you want to avoid that, you have to use a coin with some form of automatic money laundering built in (e.g. Monero), which brings its own legal problems for you and everyone working with you.

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to elaborate, Taler has been busy going nowhere for coming on ten years now. There is no reason to expect it will do anything. It doesn't do anything ordinary non-nerds don't already get from money.

Given this, and its track record of going nowhere, how does it seem like it could be big?

(I once had rms email me personally asking me to publicise Taler on my blockchain blog. I never got around to it because I couldn't find anything interesting to say about it. Literally its only point of interest is the GNU label, same as the only reason anyone knows about Hurd.)

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The "solution" crypto-people have for this is to go to a "bitcoin meetup" and give people cash there. Or use an exchange that just ignores the regulation.
I am not going to a fucking crypto-meetup just so I can send someone €10 worth of bitcoin.

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corbinreply
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What is the Range Rover in this analogy? A common belief about the 2008 Iceland bubble, which may very well not be true but was widely reported, is that Iceland's credit was used to buy luxuries like high-end imported cars; when the bubble burst, many folks supposedly committed insurance fraud by deliberately destroying their own cars which they could no longer afford to finance. (I might suggest that credit bubbles are fundamentally distinct from investment bubbles.)

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By my guess, the servers and datacentres powering the LLMs will end up as the AI bubble's Range Rover equivalent - they're obscenely expensive for AI corps to build and operate, and are practically impossible to finance without VC billions. Once the bubble bursts and the billions stop rolling in, I expect the servers to be sold off for parts and the datacentres to be abandoned.

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I should get a green screen for my videos. Suggestions welcomed.

  • I can't leave it up permanently, I need to be able to get it out and put it away each use without it being a massive PITA.
  • I record in a small room. It's tiny and awkwardly shaped and I'm fixed in place by perspective tricks (something I would like the green screen to alleviate).
  • Amazon is the least worst vendor in this circumstance if all else is equal.

Any ideas? Do any of you use such a device yourselves?

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swlabrreply
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Mount camera to ceiling, get a green rug, record lying on the ground (jk)

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Actual suggestion: maybe mount a roller blind to the ceiling. Might need extra weight to tension the blind but also might not.

Also, you probably don’t need a totally green background, just enough to make masking easier. You could conceivably tape a big sheet of green cardboard to the back of your chair and see how that goes.

Also: idk how hard or easy this is but if the camera position is fixed and the rest of the scene is static, maybe there’s software that can just mask out the static scene?

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oh yeah anything that can be chromakeyed basically, green is canonical and quite a good colour for the job.

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Green and blue are canonical because they tend to have strong contrast with the people and their clothes, so the cromakey isn't likely to pick up random bits of people's face and outfit to cut out. If you want to go for the green cardboard option I would just make sure you get as consistent a color as possible and see about finding a cheap light and/or reflector to put behind you so that it doesn't get obscured by your shadow. Definitely had that happen in a couple of student projects I did and it was impossible to set it up to be an aggressive enough match to always get the board (including the shadowed parts) without also picking up the lining of someone's jacket or something.

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i've had several recs for that greenscreen and frankly it looks ideal for the job. Now for the £160 ... it's on my channel wishlist.

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Maybe you could paint the wall greenscreen, and hide it behind a tapestry when not in use. Then you wouldn't need a place to store or deploy the screen frame hardware.

edit: froztbyte has a good point! To clarify, I mean only an appropriate square of wall that is in view of the camera. Also, I'm a deranged person that consumes pivot via podcast, so I don't know the layout of the room. A more clever person than I would have checked on that before offering a potentially impractical suggestion.

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This is truly nothing: Aella (credited as Aella Martin) has a Bacon number of 3

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One to watch from a safe distance: dafdef, an “ai browser” aimed at founders and “UCG creators”, named using the traditional amazon-keysmash naming technique and and following the ai-companies-must-have-a-logo-suggestive-of-an-anus style guide.

Dafdef learns your browsing patterns and suggests what you'd do next After watching you fill out similar forms a few times, Dafdef starts autocompleting them. Apply with your startup to YC, HF0 and A16z without wasting your time.

So… spicy autocomplete.

But that’s not all! Tired of your chatbot being unable to control everything on your iphone, due to irksome security features implemented by those control freaks at apple? There’s a way around that!

Introducing the “ai key”!

A tiny USB-C key that turns your phone into a trusted AI assistant. It sees your screen, acts on your behalf, and remembers — all while staying under your control.

I’m sure you can absolutely trust an ai browser connected to a tool that has nearly full control over your phone to not do anything bad, because prompt injection isn’t a thing, right?

(I say nearly full, because I think Apple Pay requires physical interaction with a phone button or face id, but if dafdef can automate the boring and repetitive parts of using your banking app then having full control of the phone might not matter)

h/t to ian coldwater

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one horse laugh is of greater utilitarian impact across the quantum waveform of the universe than ten thousand syllogisms

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given the run rates all these fuckers have, I half expect they feel glad it’s “as low as it is”. couple of the authors I’ve seen speak about it reckon pay out better to them (once off) than they tend to get from book royalties (I saw chisnall and some others post around it earlier). precedent from this is probably a good thing, even if I wish it went harder (esp given how likely “a fine you can afford is just a tax” is to develop as a normal situation)

re burn rates: openai confirmed in the last day or so that it expects a $118b burn through 2028. fucking obscene

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According to the article, it could be higher than 1.5 billion, though by how much they don't really say. But they're estimating about $3000 per book. For a class action that actually seems extremely high.

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yep, I was seeing some folks reckon it might be 20~30x what they’d make in later royalties. I’m not knocking the suit or the value to authors - mostly just wishing it were more so it might cause an even sharper effect

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But compared to the anti piracy fines for sharing music from decades ago it is pretty low.

Saw people suggest it was because the judge doesnt want to kill the goose that is laying pyrite eggs.

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There’s not a whole lot of clear info out there but it looks like the Tesla “dog mode” (the feature you’re supposed to rely on when you leave a dog in the car so the dog doesn’t overheat and die) is prone to failure and has recently killed a dog.

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"For those in writing related jobs, they may find lucrative work cleaning up attempts to sidestep them with AI slop, squeezing hefty premiums from desperate clients who find themselves lacking leverage over them.

Me, 17 days ago

Well, seems I was pretty close - NBC news recently reported humans are being hired to clean up AI slop. My prediction it would be lucrative was off the mark, though - artists called in for de-slopping work are getting paid less than if they were simply hired to create the work themselves. Clearly, I was being overly optimistic.

You want my take, anyone who gets hired for slop cleanup should try to squeeze as much cash out their clients as much as possible - they showed open contempt for humanity by choosing a clanker, they need to be shown the consequences.

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Chiming in to agree your prediction write-ups aren't particularly good. Sure they spark discussion, but the whole forecasting/prediction game is one we've seen the rationalists play many times, and it is very easy to overlook or at least undercount your misses and over hype your successes.

In general... I think your predictions are too specific and too optimistic...

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@[email protected] is coming in a bit hot, but they’re not fundamentally wrong. @[email protected], you’ve received some pointed but good feedback on your writing style recently in MoreWrite and in other threads; I think you’ll be able to make much the same points more persuasively if you incorporate some of that feedback. I also recommend breaking out of doing predictions; I think you might get more mileage and variation out of a journalistic approach, and either way we know from crypto that prediction is a bit of a fool’s errand. these fuckers will remain irrational long after we’ve gone bankrupt, etc.

I’m not gonna force you to do anything; if posts like these are what you’re comfortable with then it is what it is. I just feel like if you break out of your current pattern, you’re capable of achieving great results.

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I was going to chime in to say something similar. I don't think trying to game out the possible reaction to the possible hype about the possible application, etc., etc., is the best use of anyone's time. It might be more beneficial to, for example, keep track of the cases where the guys selling "quantum" are the same guys who have been selling "AI" and "crypto".

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Me, 17 days ago

this really isn't a hard guess

You want my take

probably not

anyone who gets hired for slop cleanup should try to squeeze as much cash out their clients as much as possible

"people should try to get paid well"? that's your whole take? really? you thought this was worthwhile posting? not, maybe, spitballing ideas for how people should get paid well? some advice on how to negotiate with clients who are quite likely to be pennypinching types (evidenced by them trying to get as much as possible for free)? none of that, just more fluff? okay then

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who the fuck are you again? what in the fucking world made you think your 14 comments and 1 post meant you got to decide who gets to have an account here?

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Soyweiserreply
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Small point, but I heard nitter is run by chuds, xcancel is better.

E: I always get clowdstrike and cloudflare confused, which were the ones who protected the nazis again and which ones were the ones who took down the internet for a day? ;) (Ha, the last page even leaves out this incident)

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Are you thinking of nitter.poast.org? That's run by the same guy behind poa[.]st, a really awful pleroma instance.

iirc, xcancel.com became popular before nitter.net was revived.

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I don't know the guys behind it, just repeating what others have heard. I'd have included a source if I had one sorry.

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Is “triangle man” a slur I’m unaware of or a goofy name to be calling someone for whatever reason?

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customer: "why is my FSD not working? I've got my hands off the wheel but I'm stuck in a parking spot"

tesla support: "nono, you misheard, it's Fool Self Driving!"

(source (archive))

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