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sh.itjust.works

I wonder what country all the scientists will go to this time

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piefed.world

It would only be fair for a large portion of NASA to go to Germany.

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birdwingreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Mainly France. Macron invited a lot of scientists. Germany and other EU countries as well.

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I think some also went there, or to Australia and New Zealand. Maybe other ones too. But I'm less certain of all those.

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sh.itjust.works

Boy they sure are owning the libs. “…peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind” is such a pansy-ass mission. If we do great stuff and just share it with everyone, no billionaires get any richer!

NASA was created enthusiastically by Eisenhower, a Republican war hero who had governed American-occupied Germany during WWII and was the first supreme commander of NATO just prior to becoming president. He unleashed an era of American greatness, including the entire interstate highway system which unlocked decades of future commerce growth and is named after him. If you had to name a single president who embodied the Greatness of which one might want to Make America embody Again, there are many strong arguments to be made that Eisenhower is the man.

He also signed the civil rights act and enforced school desegregation, in addition to warning the public about the rise of the Military Industrial Complex on his way out of office. In fact, he’s not at all what the nazifascist cheerleaders behind the worst president in American history would ever have thought of as great, but the MAGA slogan was a lie from the very beginning. It’s a very sad time to be an American.

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sh.itjust.works

The one in 1957. Maybe it doesn’t deserve the definite article since the 1964 one was a bigger deal, but there have been several things called the civil rights act at the time.

The main reason I bought it up is to point out just how far apart he was from what currently calls itself the Republican Party. Neither one would approve of the other.

I like Ike.

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sh.itjust.works

How do you have so many guns, and yet no one is taking pot shots at these scumbags? Surely someone gutting the crown jewel of your nation should rile up the inevitable if small crossover in the Venn diagram of NASA-lovers, NRA members, and the clinically pissed-off

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limerreply
lemmy.ml

It is one of my unanswered questions of American culture: the low amount of political violence against elites of any political organization.

Political violence against the poor has always been a staple. But somehow it does not happen against the wealthy unless it’s their own doing it.

I’m ignoring the handful of high profile assassinations over the last 250 years done by poor people, often mentally ill.

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Dozzi92reply
lemmy.world

Curious how you or the person you responded to would go about exacting some kind of meaningful change on your own. There's a lack of a rallying point for the sort of action you're talking about. Some lone gunman will only serve to play into the right's hands. I've said it here before, the US has been spying on its own citizens (legally, I might add) since 9/11. There is no opportunity to create an organization to fight back. We are stuck relying on people who already have political clout, to get behind them, or else we are just chickens with our heads cut off.

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My comment here is only about the pattern of political violence in the USA since the 1700s.

Personally, I think a socialist revolution in the USA would save more lives than cost. I think this could be proved using logic and science.

But, for all its guns, and suffering, the USA is politically stagnant. It is strongly resistant to change. Scattered violence would remain just that, and in itself could not be productive. At this point violence would only be counter productive for improvement of the working classes.

So, that leaves zero options.

I think the only way forward is evolution of the social networks to allow a replacement for local politics. Sparking interest in local communities again. It is only through social connections not yet existing, online, can there be hope for most American citizens. Or a solar flair knocking out the internet for all in the USA. Either will help change the social order

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

That's quite easy, the poor don't own news propaganda outlets

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That could explain some the last few decades, but not earlier

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midwest.social

Yes, that's what the fascists need, martyrs

The reality is at this point the smart thing to do is be forming militias but the American left simply isn't going to do that.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Yes, that’s what the fascists need, martyrs

That's the catch-22 of fascism isn't it... Someone needs to give them what they need in this respect

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I mean, they don't. They'll do what the want regardless, it's just a question of if they do it because they were attacked, they're defending against an "attack" they know is coming, or because the other people deserved it.

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pawb.social

The budget provides insufficient (or no) funding for future NASA flagship missions: LISA, the space-based successor to LIGO, the Nancy Roman Telescope, an already-constructed super-Hubble that’s awaiting launch, and the Habitable Worlds Observatory, the first-ever telescope that will be capable of directly imaging Earth-sized worlds at Earth-like distances around Sun-like stars, and our best hope for finding our first inhabited planet beyond Earth.

That part about super hubble kills me. This is terrible. Is there any way to redirect all my federal tax income directly into NASA? :P

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Sorry, all the money that's left after the military is going into concentration camps and persecuting people. The USA has clear priorities, and learning is not among them.

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