Trump's drops IVF promise, preferring to blame women for infertility
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Is anyone surprised?
I'm surprised it took so long
to be fair, he's been too busy fucking up everything else.
FTFY
¿Por qué no los dos?
Yes I'm still surprised the government haven't released the documents they are holding for the child rape ring that includes powerful politicians such as Trump.
Yet MAGA women will still praise his name and twice on Sundays. Fuck this timeline and everyone who made it happen.
Look - if you still believe what this guy tells you after almost 10 years of nothing but lies, I got nothin’.
Them, probably
I'm sure you can find something. Like a ha-ha Nelson jpg, or a Pic of a fat leopard or something.
52 percent of female voters voted for him.
This shit makes no fucking sense. What, do married people not need IVF?
Am I wrong in thinking that the majority of women seeking treatment for infertility are married?
What they are saying is that women who are unable to conceive while married are being punished for having had premarital sex and for having used birth control.
Quite the presumption
No that's actually how they think. They're insane. Like actually insane. Howling at the moon, rubber room and grippy sock, danger to themselves and others bat shit insane. Gleefully bounding into new unknown lands of just snake-fuckingly crazy.
I was raised in it. They really believe that all suffering is a curse from their impotent god. And that everyone who is suffering deserves it for one vague "sin" or another.
Which is hilarious because according to their holy text that’s not how this works.
There are examples in the Old Testament of God being like, “I’m going to punish you because of such-and-such,” but that doesn’t mean every bad thing is a punishment.
Jesus disciples were like, “Why was this man born blind? Was it his sin or his parents’ sin?” And Jesus said, “Neither, duh.”
It’s depressing to me how focused on sin evangelicals are. The whole point of Christianity is that all have sinned and fallen short, so they need Jesus. But evangelicals don’t know shit about their own theology. They sing their songs about how great and powerful their god is and they go out to judge people and enforce their idea of the law.
I wasn't arguing with you.
Blaming birth control for later infertility has a long history despite being absolutely unproven medically.
Yeah, but gawd werkz in misteereeus wayz.
You mean Donald Trump, pedophile and proven rapist?
Is that the same guy that rapes children and is on the Epstein list?
Yes the same guy that has more pictures of him with Epstein than there are trans athletes in the NCAA.
No, that can't be. Once they release the epstein files I'm sure he'll be totally exonerated.
It'll be the biggest exoneration, like no exoneration that has ever been seen before. I was on the phone to Chy-naaa and they came to me and said "Mr President, how do you put on such a good exoneration?"
They believe women should be enslaved in every way.
A lot of Theo-Bros that want women to be chained to their husbands by outlawing no-cause divorce. Then they will redefine narrow rules for which causes are justifiable causes. They're already trying to legalize child marriage. They've already made single living a poverty lifestyle for most. So they are happily coercing women into marriages and locking them in there because they know sane woman would not willingly partner with them for their whole lives, and getting rid of their choice is easier (for them) than being a person they would choose.
This is hilarious. I know a couple who voted for him specifically for his free IVF campaign promise.
Anyone stupid enough to vote for him should probably not be raising a child
I guess they learned nothing from his first term and the vapid and meaningless slogan of "promises made, promises kept".
Even towards the end of his first term, I saw his base mindlessly repeating that and clapping like trained seals at some qon events. You have to be a special kind of stupid, I guess...
Let's start attacking women's rights and making financial stability a dream out of reach for most working Americans, that'll make women want to have children!
Wait, they're not? We'll obviously it's the women's fault!
Yes, very on-brand.
I had to laugh when these dipsticks took up the mantra of "promises made, promises kept" in his first term.
WTF, these asshats got nothing from Taco unless they were multi-millionaires. He promised many things in his first term and many of these fucking morons voted for him again after he gave them nothing but the spectacle of "owning the libs".
Handmaid's Tale incoming.
In which case we know how that ends. And a nice roadmap for starting the fight to take it all back. So in advance, thanks Qatar.
I'm still waiting for my "$6000 child tax credit", fuckers.
MAGA women not being able to have children is a win
While true, its the other women I worry for
This will trigger a lot of people but since Trump has been elected, it is safe to assume that more than 50% women support him, so....
Mmmm im pretty sure he only got like 1/3 of women, it was men who carried him
Edit: closer to half but women still went majority for Harris
Pretty sure he won with white women
So... The first picture isn't really relevant since it doesn't appear to factor in race.
The second one is nearly meaningless to me as a static photo. What the hell am I even looking at? Clearly this is something meant to be interacted with.
gonna need to see some stats. republiQan women had their chance and it's gone now.
Lol - gonna need to see stats (downvotes a-poppin')
Edit: okay not 2/3 more like half (downvotes continue)
😆
Why would you post something that's so easily disproven?
Thanks for the info, I didn't know
No, that is not a safe assumption.
no.
It is quite a logical assumption, excluding gerrymandering
Not logical at all.
Why?
If a candidate wins a majority of the population as a whole, it is not logical to assume they won a majority of all demographics in that population.
More specifically, in the previous 2 times he ran before the 2024 election, we knew that the majority of women voters voted against him. And that he won one of those elections in spite of not getting a majority of women. So the logical thing to assume would be that he didn't get the majority of women in 2024 either, in spite of the fact that he won that election. Which is what happened.
Well, almost half of women that voted supported him! Guess we'll just have to abandon the whole lot. Problem solved.
I'm almost surprised that people believed he would implement it.
We are neck-deep in a lot of insanely stupid people in this country. Lots of people think he's a bigly important successful bidness man, too, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Ivf is a men issue. Balls too old. https://www.pfcla.com/blog/low-sperm-count-treatment
Hey Canada, my country is now officially under illegal occupation by the Republic of Gilead, can y'all start giving us refugee status?
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I thought this was spam at first. Was waiting for a gofundme link.
Lmao, on c/asklemmy someone asked why emojis aren't used more often, this is exactly why.
Emoji use = bot/scammer for some reason 🤷♂️
This country needs to ensure the future of its conservative values. I suggest taking everyone in the Heritage foundation and putting them in a strategic federal conservative reserve (i.e. Locking them in an abandoned salt mine for decades.)
Just put them in the same storage site as the spent nuclear material. That way we already have the easy, one-way access to the storage area.
We're really going back to behaving like we're living in the middle ages. Your wife can't conceive? Time to find an excuse to get rid of her as that's one of her only purposes and you need a heir.
"drops promise"?
cripes.
Holy fuck I'm so glad I just got a hysterectomy. I was terrified BC was gonna be targeted and it was the only thing keeping my endometriosis and debilitating periods at bay. Symptoms of recurring endometriosis started happening last year and in February my specialist approved a hysterectomy. I got the procedure done 3 weeks ago. Seems like I got it done just in time, too.
Trump lied? Hard to imagine, after only 30,000 or so previous lies.
I have a question. Is it true that sperm get killed in the vagina by the vagina protection software while trying to win the race . If that is true then does not ivf makes like being able to buy battlepass with money and leave everyone behind and will it increase the chance of disability in the baby's
Just in case this isn't asshole trolling behavior, no, that's not how it works.
Here's a good link if you want to learn more. It's covered in the very beginning. https://archive.org/details/textbook-of-human-embryology
Yes, the vagina, cervix, and uterus have a lot of built-in defenses. These exist to protect against infections — but sperm have to pass through the same gauntlet.
So yes — you can think of it as most sperm being “eliminated” before reaching the egg. The survivors are the fastest, most motile, and most resilient. 2. IVF and your “battle pass” analogy
In In Vitro Fertilization (IVF), sperm don’t have to run the full gauntlet — they’re either placed near the egg in a lab dish (classic IVF) or directly injected into the egg (ICSI). So in gamer terms:
3. Does bypassing natural selection increase disability risk?
This is where nuance matters:
Studies show:
Many scientists think that these risks come more from underlying infertility issues in the parents rather than IVF itself. In other words, if someone’s sperm or eggs already have higher risk factors, IVF isn’t creating them — it’s just making fertilization possible despite them.
✅ In short: