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lemmy.world

Why don't more people think the UN is cool? It's like the real world Federation of Planets. Yes it's largely ineffectual as a tool of meaningful change, for now, but it's aspirations are epic and beautiful. Just look at the Universal Declaration of Human Rights!

https://youtu.be/hTlrSYbCbHE

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The UN is largely ineffective due to the security council. The fact that one country can effectively shut down a vote is the opposite of the Federation of Planets.

Now that I think of it, of course the UN is ineffectual. It's set up like the US system of legislature. A powerful smaller body that is largely disproportionate to the rest of the world fully controls everything the UN does.

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I mean, it's much better than the alternative of said country starting nuclear war to get its way.

There's also the Uniting for Peace resolution.

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It's a victim of our reality and can never be anything more without a lot of work from a lot of people who have equally bold aspirations.

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lemmings.world

Because all the agressor countries have veto power on anything, aka it's a useless organisation.

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sh.itjust.works

Without that, the UN would be even more useless. It’s a discussion forum, not a federation. You need to have ”evil” at the table. And nuclear capable evil won’t sit at the table unless they get a big veto to swing around.

But they are in fact at the table. Communicating. Most likely in bad faith, but still communicating and talking.

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Every time someone says "but the veto powers!!!" I like to helpfully point out the league of nations

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