Spyke
jlai.lu

You mean that a government with one of the most well funded intelligence services in the world, knew that an attack was coming from a region they completely control, from a manufactured rebel group they partly fund. And they let this attack happen, and their citizens die and used it as a casus belli to raze, and ethnically cleanse said region because they want to completely colonize and claim it as their own?

That's definitely a first in the history of humanity and I'm utterly shocked, really!

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not to forget Netanyahu's government was in a pretty bad place and urgently needed some common enemy to save the day from

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Mycatiskaireply
lemmy.ca

Also they let the attack continue for 6 hours before showing up with forces despite being a 1 hour drive from their capital city and probably even closer to military bases. With a population that all serves in the military in their youth and many that proudly walk around armed, how did it take so long to organize a counter?

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Yeah, something tells me EDM festivals aren't full of Likud voters, maybe leadership thought of it as 2 birds one stone

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They needed to have lunch and then a serious meeting to figure out what to do. You can't make this kind of decision on an empty stomach!

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lemmy.ml

And they let this attack happen, and their citizens die and used it as a casus belli to raze, and ethnically cleanse said region...

You left out the Hannibal directive part, but yeah.

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lemmy.ca

I've taken this for granted since the beginning... It seems incredibly suspect that such a powerful intelligence apparatus could not have known about such a wide spread attack.

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lemmy.ml

It seems incredibly suspect that such a powerful intelligence apparatus could not have known about such a wide spread attack.

Egypt warned them months ahead.

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US intelligence confirmed within a week that Egypt had warned them repeatedly, and again a few days before the attack. So even if they missed it themselves(which is highly unlikely), they at a very minimum ignored the warnings.

And when the PM quickly called that "fake news", it should have been a pretty strong indication for most people.

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Yeah i remember listening to a podcast about it.

No hard, direct evidence but overwhelming circumstantial

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short note that presstv.ir is an iranian-run newspaper, so let's better wait for confirmation from the UN or somebody less biased in this affair. still very interesting news though, and definitely imaginable.

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Wubbyreply
lemmy.world

Palestine was never a country so that map is nonsensical

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Very interesting, since if you ever visit Israel‘s second biggest boot-licker (Germany), you would often read on these golden stones they added after the holocaust that the persecuted jews escaped to Palestine. Are you so far deep up your own ass?

Here is a picture I took, in case you never left your backyard, where it says on multiple stones that the jews escaped to Palästina, the german name for the country Palestine, which unlike „Israel“ is older than your grandma.

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LOL, I'm rolling over here. It's just the most easily debunked, brain dead Zionist propaganda from this one.

"Constable, this man murdered my husband!"

"Murder, eh? I see here you're not actually married, just a... civil union, whatever that is. I don't recognize that, so nothing wrong here, nothing to see, let's all move on."

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KumaSudosareply
feddit.dk

New York is not a country either. I guess it's free for the taking then!

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I think we should make NY a safe state for Israeli zionists even though people already live there because of what germans did to jewish people during WWII and maybe we can also send everyone who lives in NY away or kill them if they won’t leave because that sounds like a recipe for justice and fairness

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The territory called palestine was already defined even herzl acknowledge it.

Zionists qas europeen imigrants that stole 73% of the land from the local population the christian , muslim and jewish palestinians

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lemmy.world

Fascist ethnostate full of genocidal shit heads has more than double the average UN resolutions against it? Who could have imagined?!

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Gt5reply
lemmy.zip

This guy is in another thread saying trans people aren’t a thing on an account < 1 day old 🤔

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Ya, they're cartoonishly evil. I think they're trolling. I'm just getting a laugh out of them at this point.

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the only genocide were the population grows

It should be noted that the world's population grew 10x in general since 1800, so even if Israel killed half of palestinians, they'd still have grown 5x in total. So, "where the population grows" is not directly in conflict with genocide here.

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Isrseli occupation is the longest current occupation . Ask israel to end occupation and you will see zero resolution against israel

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lemmy.today

I will go one step further. Most wars are started with a false flag operation.

This is my conspiracy theory with no evidence- 9/11, this thing, Pearl Harbor were all inside jobs. It is not that far fetched to think that governments would kill their own people to justify a war because they kill their soldiers anyways.

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scintillareply
beehaw.org

Can you explain the Pearl harbor one? Just that the fleet was mostly out for training?

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Just that they had prior knowledge of the Japanese plans and deliberately let it happen. It's a much weaker theory than this one and 9/11

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lemmy.world

Pearl Harbor, 9/11... for anyone outside of America/the West these people work in very predictable ways. It works too, so why not?

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The evidence for Pearl Harbor being known ahead of time is weak, but certainly not for 9/11.

The CIA produced many briefs for Bush warning about Bin Laden in 2001 before the actual attacks. Bush did not take any of these seriously, as summarised by one of his now infamous response "All right. You've covered your ass."

Prelude to the attack on Pearl Harbor - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prelude_to_the_attack_on_Pearl_Harbor&wprov=rarw1

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

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qarbonereply
lemmy.world

There have always been conspiracies around 9/11 that actually mirror the legitimate claims about Israel: ranging from "the US knew about the possibility of the terror attack and were negligent in stopping them" to "jet fuel can't melt steel beams".

I've never heard conspiracies about Pearl Harbor though.

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The pearl harbor one I've always heard was Japanese emissaries were on the way with declarations of war and the admin refused to see them.

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