Two brands suspend advertising on X after their ads appeared next to pro-Nazi content
At least two brands have said they will suspend advertising on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, after their ads and those of other companies were run on an account promoting fascism. The issue came less than a week after X CEO Linda Yaccarino publicly affirmed the company’s commitment to brand safety for advertisers.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/16/tech/x-ads-pro-nazi-account-brand-safety/index.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world1116
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Just gotta let the smoke blow over then it's business as usual.
Maybe but it could also be carrot/sticking the Muskrat.
Fuck Adobe and their greedy CEO.
Go back and re-read my comment. I didn't say any of that shit. I just hate Adobe. Though I can play the same game you're playing:
Wow, marmo7ade thinks Twitter should be hosting Nazi content! Let's get this Nazi banned!
I have no idea how their brain could possibly have made whatever insane conclusion it did. I’m gonna just assume it’s a bot.
Edit: lawl absolutely golden
https://lemmy.world/comment/2465367
You mean just like placed next to regular Twitter content?
It's a Nazi bar now.
Bro, you better check your privilege and stop deadnaming X
The only socially acceptable deadnaming
Ignore this, I meant to reply to the other user.
Hahaha, the delete button does exist.
Does that make this delete button erasure?
I hope you have that same energy for actual human beings and aren't just deepthroating corporation boot.
It's a joke. And it's funny.
NCTA and Gilead are an evil organization and an evil corporation. They should feel right at home with the Nazis.
But being honest is bad for business. Need to keep the beard on.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying like follows like. They should enjoy being associated with fascists.
Apple still advertises on Twitter. We need a website that tracks all of these companies that still advertise on that pro-nazi platform.
Companies don’t have ethics, they have profits
You shouldn’t read too much into it
Disagree on not reading into it. You should be appalled by the fact that profit comes at the sacrifice of ethics.
Yes but not enough people will boycott everything that supports things they are against. A lot of people will have a brand that they say “yeah but I really like them”
And all corporations are evil, it’s not really a surprise
Companies don't have ethics.
Companies aren't real, they're just people organized into a collective, and people do have ethics.
And contrary to Internet wisdom, corporations do not have a legal obligation to pursue profit at all cost.
One might ask what the point of spreading that particular lie was.
The company boards would gladly stuff you into Gaza if there was a profit to be made.
Sure. But I find it strange that people act like those evil fucks are a faceless building and not individuals you can point to and say, "Hey, no, it's that guy, he enslaved those kids."
What are we going to do? What recourse did the girls raped by Epstein have?
I don't see why I shouldn't look into it. Are there any good reasons not to?
You can look into it but it doesn’t mean company supports X
Look at pride month or the bud light thing
Found one it's called google, seem like all companies in the world advertise on twitter except for these two in the title that pulled out
Someone needs to edit their new "logo" and add four lines at the extremities, just to see what it would look like.
Edit: Fashtag freeze peach
It doesn't look as good as you would think. The spacing between the lines in the "X" logo aren't evenly distributed, which means the added lines aren't spaced properly either.
Take my word on it, the end result looks more like a dancing cactus than a specific symbol used during World War II.
That would not be the result I expected but a sort of "Pampa X" sounds way cooler anyway hehe.
Oh damn... This will catch on quick. Lol
You mean they appeared on Twitter?
X, you mean. It's the core of a swastika.
I couldn't help but catch the line that
And there's literally an entire black market of veterinarians recommending a very specific antiviral to cat parents unfortunate enough to have their cats be among the 1% of the global cat population whose mutation of feline enteric coronavirus (FECV) to feline coronavirus (FCoV) brings about Feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), and that specific life-saving treatment is behind Gilead Sciences' refusal to release their patent to veterinary use...
This dumpster fire keeps getting hotter and hotter.
@Yokozuna @MicroWave
Just like the climate and oceans.
I wonder if it's all linked in the multiverse?
🤣🤣
Two groups of "people" who deserve each other soulless brands and elon.
Don't worry Linda Yaccarino will sort it all out
Before or after she finds the glass cliff?
FWIW, the Nazi account has now been suspended.
Yeah, but Twitter is just a nazi safe haven under Musk. Elon Musk and Tesla have no problem associating themselves with nazis.
Who would imagine Nazis in electric vehicles was the future. Fun fact nazis were early adopters of the vegan lifestyle.
Well considering BMW and Mercedes were once war manufacturers for the OG Nazis and are now breaking into the EV market...I'd say it wouldn't be too much of a stretch of the imagination.
Was it really nazi, or was it "nazi"? What did they post?
Edit: lol OK
So, only mildly nazism. Damn news media always exaggerating everything.
In that time 500 were created
Very probably.
this surprises no one whos been paying any attention
Glad they suspended their advertising. A good decision.
Make Twitter Ban Again
One of the brands is Gilead Science. I know the name is based on the Balm of Gilead, but after The Handmaid's Tale the name has a nasty resonance...
The only surefire way for these company to control what their content appears next to is to rely on themselves. I expect them to start experimenting with the Fediverse, especially Mastodon, soon.
... Shitposting on Lemmy is still superior for organic marketing though, especially for movies.
I'm defedding from brands.social on day 1
They actually hire companies like Double Verify, an Israeli company, who man in the middle the ad and figure out where it is showing up.
Disney doesn't want their ads on porn sites, and pays a lot to keep it that way.
The BBC are trying a 6 month experiment of moving their Twitter style social media over to their own Mastodon server.
How about a disclaimer for companies like people have when they play online. "Statements and opinions made by users do not reflect those of X" ESRB for ad companies to get it.
Why?
These companies don't have to do business with twitter.
Now because their logo was next to some Nazi shit when they were promised it wouldn't be, they are pulling their dollars because of broken promises.
if there is one thing you can count on from Musk, its broken promises
Because it's annoying when a lot of good shit goes to dog shit when ad companies get involved with the creative side of things. Just have it in the contract up front if it's not already and they can agree to be on the platform all in or all out.
Who said the ad companies are making it go to dog shit by not wanting to be seen next to fascist content?
How about no.
Something like that is already in law as a kind of default. Companies are not responsible for the content posted by their users on the basis that no entity could possibly police that much content, with two exceptions:
-Content must be removed if it is illegal and has been specifically pointed out by appropriate authorities for removal.
-If an organisation willingly polices their own content in any way then they also take on responsibility for it.
I'm glad companies are pulling out of X but I've never understood this reasoning for removing your ads tbh.
Every single person who sees your ad knows that it has just been served by the website and has nothing to do with the post/content or author.
Like on youtube, why do companies not wanna advertise on a video with cussing? We all know that the language used in the video has nothing to do with the ad playing before.
Some people just don't want any kind of association with nazis....
It's more surprising some people don't understand that
I think you're overestimating the technical knowledge of a broad portion of the population : D
The iintellect of an average person is horribly low. Critical thinking is almost non-existant.
Haha, I'm sure glad I'm not one of those average people.
Me too! I know I'm special because my mommy said so!
Association is unavoidable regardless of logic since it is an emotional response. Much like disliking a certain food you associate with a person that was mean to you. Marketing is a Social Science not a Technical one.
Or avoiding a certain food or drink after becoming violently ill after consuming it 😬
Or like when you eat too much chocolate cake.
Or violently shitting yourself after a dumpster burger that still looked decent?
Are we still talking about Elon Musk? Eh, probably.
IDK if you know this but... rarely is it the food, as long as they get it to temp it should be fine (and lets be honest most dumpser burger joints are overcooking their food). Most often its your own hands that are the reason for food poisoning. Think about all the things you touched (your phone?) between the time you washed your hands and the time you touched the food that went into your mouth. Especially with food that you eat with your hands.
It could be the fact that it is a dumpster burger from a dumpster.
I sure it touched stuff that touched phones in there.
I recommend reading "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman, which also discusses this topic.
It's a platform that allows and encourages Nazi content. If your ad is getting served next to Nazi content on a website that allows and encourages Nazi content, it stands to reason that you do, in fact, support Nazis because you bought the ad in the first place. Twixxer or whatever tf it's called has undergone a lot of fast changes and sometimes corporations are slow to react so I can give the benefit of the doubt up to a certain point, but at this point we all know that you're supporting right wing terrorists by advertising on Twitter.
Why are you assuming that all people know that?
Maybe they don't want to seen to have tacit support for a site that hosts Nazi content and doesn't deal with it?
Out of interest can you give some examples of what you have gotten removed? Both on Reddit and Lemmy I have seen users post that they are not having success when putting in moderation requests. Either they are faking those screenshots or the moderation is at the very least hit and miss.
nope, they've simply blocked you from seeing it.
@TigrisMorte @MicroWave @NotAPenguin @traveler @Prior_Industry
And that, in a nutshell, is the biggest scam of all.
"The platform shows that ad to you because algorithms think you're interested in seeing"
There's your answer right there. The platform sees what you're interested in and serves up this ad. "You seem to be interested in a whole bunch of Nazi shit, here's an ad for my product" is not a good look for most companies. It's very simple PR.
So the companies clearly don't want to then become associated with nazi-posting, because then it might have the connotation of being Nazi adjacent because they didn't say anything. That's basically the definition of tacit support.
How is it so hard to understand that normal people don't want to associate or even be implied to associate with Nazis or their content? Pulling out of twatter is the only sure fire way of keeping their ads away from the Nazi base that's made it's home on twatter with the express approval of its idiot founder.
Who is Lemmy to you? What would a ban look like to you?
the politics understander has logged on watch out everyone
Yeah Lemmygrad and Hexbear are garbage. They're not fully about communism though, they're designed to look like communism and support the CCP (and Kremlin).
Exploding Heads is just as bad on the other end of the spectrum. They're ruining Lemmy, I'd be ashamed to recommend it to anyone with all the authoritarian propaganda.
Like lemmy.world defederating from several tankie instances and the active discussion about defederating from additional communist instances?
Is that thing that is already happening the thing you want to happen or are there some additional things you want?
m2c: no one should get banned for sharing his ideas. There's a right to hate without exercising violence.
Even attempting to draw a parallel like that between race/ethnicity and material wealth is a fairly questionable take to most rational people I'd say, or at least hope.
You may have misunderstood my comment; it was intended to suggest that I strongly question your values and priorities because you're attempting to equate something as innate as race with material wealth. I'd go further to say that your conflating communism and socialism with nazism and fascism is merely ideological drivel.
seems like it worked out quite well for a certain group, i wonder which
I think you mean landlords, and those two groups are not the same
my point being you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, liberalism (which im assuming you are) has historically killed more people than communism and further more is activelly still killing millions of people in modern wars and trade embargos
what the hell are you talking about? Victor d'Hupay was an aristocrat. John Goodwyn Barmby was a Chartist, one of whose literal tenets is "pay persons of modest means if they have to serve the interests of the nation". Thomas Moore was the Lord High Chancellor to Henry VIII. Charles Fourier was the equivalent of a millionaire at age 9. Marx was a lawyer. Engels was the son of a wealthy mill owners. William Morris was the son of what today we'd call a Wall Street fatcat. Kropotkin's family owned serfs.
Nearly everyone involved in suffrage movements started wealthy and observed the treatment of the poor and was moved to do something about it.
ban this guy instead hes worse than both combined
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anti-communists breathing air challenge (impossible)
This is so incredibly inaccurate. Nazi’s killed communists before coming for other groups. In fact, communists were one of the largest roadblocks to Nazi’s gaining power so they were one of the first groups be be targeted and eliminated. Despite what the name of the National Social German Workers’ Party might have you assume, the Nazi party were very much capitalists. They deregulated, supported business owners, squashed unions and even privatized public industries. All of these are hallmarks of capitalism. The one thing I will agree with is being anti-fascist means being anti-nazi, however this doesn’t work the other way around. Equating communism with either fascism or nazism is asinine. Comparing fascism and nazism to neoliberalism would be much closer to an apt comparison.
Is communism in the room with you at the moment?
There are many moving pieces to "the Internet". Literally none fundamentally work based on Communism. Any "free work" is a fancy version of Black Friday doorbuster sales.
The United States military and research universities. Universities fund research to attract prestige, patentable technology, court donations, etc.
The early Internet was not available, period. For pay or not. Al Gore as Senator, pushed for it to open it for commercial exploitation and commercial ISP's began. Unless you had 500 hours of free AOL dialup, you were paying for it.
Cisco, IBM, Google, AWS, and others hire engineers to sit on the IETF, w3c, etc committees. They publish protocols so their employers can sell new products or maintain marketshare. As a side gig, they also review and approve protocols like ActivityPub.
No, the expense is recouped when companies buy products that are built around those products.
RSA is a multi-billion dollar security company. HTTPS certificates are products that you purchase from Certificate Authorities. Let's Encrypt is funded by commercial companies to ensure consumer confidence in their main products.
Sure. The algorithms are also reviewed and approved by NIST, a Communist agency run by the Communist country, the United States of America. You generally do not commercially use use an algorithm if it has not been approved by NIST.
Yes. Again, the expense is recouped when companies buy products that are built around those products.
Google, Apple, Mozilla, etc.
As above.
Streaming services are communism now?
The misunderstanding is yours.
You remind me of a quote: "Libertarians are like house cats: absolutely convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand."
Ah yes, the ultimate form of communism: VENTURE CAPITALISM.
And I think you need to investigate how a lot of open source gets funded (if it does at all) and why. It's definitely not communism and in some cases, it's a worse model than even capitalism.
Whatabout what your mom does, down by the docks at night?