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Trump Fears His Unindicted Co-conspirators Will Turn On Him to Save Themselves: Report

When special counsel Jack Smith criminally charged Donald Trump this month for attempting to overturn the 2020 election, the indictment referenced six unnamed co-conspirators—five of whom are identifiable—who aided the ex-president’s plot to stay in power, i.e. break the law. Why Smith chose not to charge these individuals is unclear; while it’s possible that the prosecutor only targeted Trump to expedite the case, it’s also plausible that he did so as part of a strategy to get them to cooperate and become government witnesses against the former guy. And according to a new report, it seems like at least some of these people might be willing to talk to save themselves.

Trump Fears His Unindicted Co-conspirators Will Turn On Him to Save Themselves: Reporthttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/donald-trump-fears-his-unindicted-co-conspirators-will-turn-on-him-to-save-themselves-reportOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.world

You mean like how he turns on everyone the minute he feels threatened by them? Like almost his entire administration at this point?

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lemmy.world

"Will"? How exactly does he think they ended up unindicted in the first place?

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I know, right? The “unindicted” in unindicted co-conspirators translates to “cooperating with the prosecution” co-conspirators. 

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kbin.social

Uh, I can't wait for the next season of "I barely know them, never really talked to them" !

I hope it has a better end than the last one though.

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It'll be an interesting tactic when he tries it on members of his family

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lemmy.world

Oh it's blatantly obvious that 2 or 3 indicted have already flipped. One is definitely part of his inner circle. Also, with some names that should be in these indictments conspicuously not on them, there are a few people in his direct family working with DAs. My money's on Jared and Ivanka.

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NatakuNoxreply
lemmy.world

Oh that's going to be a very tightly kept secret until they back Trump into a corner. It's all educated guesses. If I had to bet money, outer circle person would be Sidney Powell. Inner circle? Rudy Giuliani has always been rat so him jumping ship is 100% on his character.

Edit: sorry didn't fully answer your question... The evidence for a grand jury to bring charges has to be concrete to go forward. Like the evidence that Trump directed individuals to do things. Only a few people were in the room during those conversations. So that to be presented as evidence means it's first hand info. Other findings couldn't have been found without the DA knowing exactly where to look. Meaning someone told them it was there. Very few people would have the access and knowledge to pass that information on.

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Powell and Giuliani are both indicted in GA. Being said, it both makes sense for them to do and would be wildly entertaining to watch, so here's hoping 🤞 🤞 🤞

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Can you please provide evidence of this? Links? I've been following these indictments and, while I don't have reason to believe otherwise, I haven't seen evidence that anyone is already talking.

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lemmy.world

Good. I hope the fear keeps him super stressed out and anxious. With a little luck the stress will give him an ulcer so he can live the rest of his life in pain and agony.

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Ugh, I know they don't deserve the sweet embrace of death, but I honestly would appreciate it if him, his whole family, and anyone who ever remotely supported him even for a brief moment just dropped dead already.

Face it Republicans, you couldn't make America white... ahem... "great" again. Perhaps you'll have better luck in Hell? Fucking Nazis and their sympathizers can fucking die.

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Hoping the stress and the decades of eating McDonald's lead to a fatal heart attack before the election.

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Because that's exactly what he would do if the situations were reversed.

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kbin.social

I can't tell who are scorpions and who are frogs, but I'm looking forward to watching them all drowning in the river.

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Who would have guessed that the party of selfishness and dishonesty would stab each other in the back.

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He’s wrong though.

They already have. Or did he think they got away with it?

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kbin.social

In this and in the Georgia case there are enough co-conspirators who don't want to stay behind bars til they drop. Only one needs to sing the right tune, and loud enough to get a "get out of prison" card. The problem that Trump is only surrounded by weak yes-men is that they are weak.

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kbin.social

The Georgia indictment is amazing. Something like 19 people named, and like 30 unindicted coconspirators. There's no way there's not a good number of flips there.

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paddirnreply
lemmy.world

For some reason, I would've had Georgia as the last place to ever bring something like this. I guess I just assumed it was solidly Republican that would never let something like this get this far.

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Looks like DA Willis is a democrat, so that could be part of it. I heard the governor wasn't wanting him charged, but I'm glad a patriot was in the DA position to ensure that an attempt at justice could be brought against him.

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Having watched Georgia for a few years, the impression I get is that it's pretty close to a 50-50 mix of red and blue with a constant struggle for control. Atlanta is of course consistently blue.

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they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have they already have why do you think they're unindicted?

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discuss.tchncs.de

I know this one! The answer is all of them. All co-conspirators would happily sell Trump down the river.

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bauhausreply
lemmy.ml

I can see Ghouliani being dumb enough to stay loyal. Turning on Trump now won’t save him, anyway. 

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But it's gonna make it all the more hilarious when Trump throws him under the bus.

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There's going to be a fight to see who can throw him under the bus first.

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lemm.ee

For a long time, Roy Cohn was 'The Guy' in New York City. You know, 'The Guy who knows So-and-so...' or 'The Guy who cam make a deal happen.' He mentored Trump and helped him get started. When Trump found out Chon had AIDS he dropped him.

Trump deserves to be shafted by his people.

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Of all the people Trump had screwed over in one way or another, I'm having a lot of trouble finding any sympathy for Roy Cohn. Fuck him.

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lemmy.one

Trump and "rational fear" are words I never thought I'd use together, but here we are!

If someone could avoid 5, 10, 20 years in prison by flipping, do you think they wouldn't?

Giuliani is, what? 79 years old? 5 years in prison would be enough to end him. He knows this.

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I would turn on my boss to save myself 10 minutes of moderate inconvenience and my boss is actually rather a decent guy.

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lemm.ee

Literally everyone under criminal investigation fears this.

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theodewerereply
kbin.social

Ted Kaczynski didn't fear that.. i mean, yeah he was schizo so he always feared that irrationally.. but he didn't have any friends who might turn on him.. he didn't repeatedly betray people close to him.. he hid in a shack..

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it's relevant for the reasons you just stated.. he had no co-conspirators.. so he wasn't worried about them rolling over on him.. you understand, don't be dense..

Trump has lots of co-conspirators, because he did a lot of crimes with a lot of people

read it twice if you need to

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don't give up on us baby.. well, it was special to me.. i know you can't hear me where you are.. but i also know that you would want me to carry on.. okay..

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