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lemmy.ml

In retrospect, it is sort of adorable the way I thought George W Bush was the dumbest, most incompetent and easily manipulated president ever.

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It's bad when George Bush seems like a better president than Trump

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Right? Remember when "Bushisms" were a thing, they feel almost sensible now, just silly little mistakes in speech. Or how the media discussed that his calls for a fight of "good vs evil" were crossing a line, and people were still concerned abotu that. Or how there was a real discourse that warned, that debating if torture is "sometimes justified" would lead to a descend into barbarism...

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George Bush was a simple child elevated to power. He believed in dangerous fantasies and was easily manipulated, but I think he broadly needed to believe he was doing the right thing, so that made implementing the most bald faced evils more complicated. Torture is justified because Jack Bauer needs to save millions of lives from bad men who wanted to kill daddy.

Donald Trump is a mean child elevated to power. He needs no convincing for why the state should do evil. He relishes it. Torture is justified because you're powerful and you don't like them.

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And then comes the moment where you think "will we think the same about Trump in a couple years?"

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lemmy.world

Gitmo wasn’t exactly a shinning moment for the Bush administration.

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lemmy.world

Wow til W made gitmo, I was too young to remember so I assumed it'd been a thing for decades

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Well before the camp was there, it was just the military base of the same name.

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lemmy.ca

Is Trump lying or his appointed head of intelligence incompetent?

Both is also an option, but neither isn’t.

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Haydukereply
lemmy.world

It’s another example him being in a no-win position. No answer to his situation is acceptable.

It seems to happen pretty frequently. He is either engaging in completely reprehensible behavior, or he is so hopelessly clueless to everything around him that he should never be considered for serious responsibility. There is no positive light that can be shed.

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Eh, they could still claim that the information is something the British government has lerned.

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Some poor sod of a corporal who just wants to finish his contract so he can enroll into college without crippling debt just exhaled a Category 5 sigh once he realized he now has to paint thousands of vehicles tan again.

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lemmy.ca

Didn't Big Bush start a war the same as Little Bush eventually started; and all that among that old and tired "wars create short-term jobs and boost the economy" rule that was true in the 1900s?

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Gulf War I was responding to Iraq invading Kuwait, so a much less manufactured conflict.

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Like George W Bush, Trump has started a reckless war based on a lie | Spyke