Spyke
Ex Nummisreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, I don't see what they're hoping to accomplish with this. The pool has been poisoned for years by baseless claims from the far right about election rigging. No amount of evidence is going to change those peoples' minds, and for the others, you're preaching to the choir.

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lemmy.world

E-voting across the US has been a continuous attack vector of covert election fraud for over 2 decades, and in all that time nothing was done to harden them to any legitimate degree.

The oligarchy wanted Trump, and they've been subverting democracy longer than all of us have been alive. The SC was already used to steal the presidential election for Bush ffs.

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feddit.org

The article makes a great point that there are just too many coincidences in all of this, the theories behind the tech also seem quite sound.

The flipping of swing states on election day but not flipping enough to trigger a recount, so suspicious how a criminal president could be so popular. Especially when many people knew what was at stake, project 2025 had been vocalized a lot.

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piefed.social

I think a big part of the whole picture could also be why in gods name did the Democrats concede before the day even ended?

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lemmy.world

My mind went right to the DNC leaders being complicit. Maybe they were shown a window or pictures of their children or they are just shitty people.

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Yeah i don't know. But they sure went back to thier mansions real quick and stayed out of the picture.

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It would almost be suspicious if they didn't sue with such a big case to back them up

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Momentum is building on this one.

Either people looking into this are going to be “discouraged” or more evidence will be examined and a consensus will arrive.

Not saying which way. IMO the rhetoric of Trump prior to the election was basically a confession and I’ve no doubt the election was interfered with. Without any evidence, that is :|

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I agree. While the main article is goes deep into obscure (albeit interesting) machinations, your article is very on point. It starts with

if you’re expecting a sexy story about Elon Musk messing with vote-counting software from outer space, sorry, you won’t get that here.

And then lays down the numbers:

— 4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.

— By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.

— No fewer than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).

— At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.

— 1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted.

— 3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.

It continues listing concrete things people can directly influence. I liked the article, thank you soo much. Very insightful.

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That argument is straightforward and clear and should be spread more widely than it is.

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psivchazreply
reddthat.com

The numbers feel too coincidental and so a theory like space-based voting machine fraud doesn't seem as outlandish as it should. At the same time, it attributes to these people a level of finesse and planning that I just don't see from them.

The brute force "suppress votes and lie constantly" is much more Trump's style. It's basically his whole brand.

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These kind of conspiracy theories downplay how much of a piece of shit Nation we have become and how selfish the populace voted.

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lemmy.ca

How is this relevant? Not only you have a king now, but he wasn't elected by popular vote anyways, he was elected by the electoral college, who aren't bound to follow the popular vote.

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The relevance is that when he is overthrown, the history books will have more justifications as to why

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Y'all say these things sometimes that make one think you just wander around in a nihilistic haze of submission and defeatism.

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It was weak and impotent when the Republicans did it. So I guess the Democrats feel left out.

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There were a few offhand things Trump said before the election that sure sounded like he was letting slip that the election was rigged - but at the time I chalked them up to his usual overconfident bullshit. Some guy made a video a few months ago highlighting some of the statistical anomalies shown in the article. I thought he made a very persuasive case for vote manipulation but lacked technical evidence. Now that's coming out as well. I sure hope this plays out like it should. All it takes is one senator to formally challenge the legitimacy of the election and start an investigation.

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Nougatreply
fedia.io

You know there's fascist instances on fediverse, right?

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One of the great things of federation is that those instances get blocked by these great people called mods and admins. Substack doesn't do that.

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tisktiskreply
piefed.social

Here's to hoping this comments' downvotes get an explanation or I'm assuming they're just coming from nazis without a dignified retort \_ (ツ)_/¯

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Jakeroxsreply
sh.itjust.works

Logic dictates it's a dumb thing to post, nazis likely use every site in existence, good luck never using a service that they also use.

Just because a shitty group of people use a product, doesn't necessarily mean the product itself is the problem, additionally in this case it's specifically being used for a good purpose.

Imagine if you will, a product the can cure horses of parasitic worms, but idiots use it to try and cure themselves of a disease we have an actual cure for, and someone comes along and says hey I used this stuff to cure my horse and this guy comes in and says, "Well actually, people used that product improperly so actually it's bad."

People boo them, and you say, "man all these people sure love taking this product improperly"

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tisktiskreply
piefed.social

I hope your 'logic' also dictates a difference between using a product and (condoning) publishing/monetizing pro-nazi content. Hopefully most can see how one is a potential issue at the least. I know we all gotta eat tho--and to that end I don't wish to throw shade unnecessarily.

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tisktiskreply
piefed.social

Ah yes great point getting to the core of my post by using false analogies, red herrings and appeals to ridicule

Your logic dictates strange paths to truth friend.

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Jakeroxsreply
sh.itjust.works

I'm specifically pointing out that's the logic being applied by the original response, which I made more clear with my example

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I understand what you think you're pointing out (I was also hoping you were familiar with the fallacies I listed so you could maybe refine your position).

I still believe platforms like Substack have a responsibility to try to avoid enabling harmful (such as nazi) ideologies. Do you think you could spell out a logic for why I shouldn't hold this belief? Preferably without unrelated analogies that distract from a simple coherent argument if possible

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Omg are you trapped in 2015? Starting a reply with "logic dictates" is so gamergate coded. Learn some basic philosophy before saying stuff like that because it demonstrates you have no idea what objectivity or subjectivity are.

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Jakeroxsreply
sh.itjust.works

Ah yes great point getting to the core of my post by saying it's gamer gate coded and ignoring the logic in my metaphor.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

You like the word logic a bit much for someone who doesn't know what it means. You a podcast listener?

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