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This shouldn't be a flex... It's just a reminder why I didn't understand the deep love for Obama for being a good orator who happened to codify the worst excesses of the Bush administration and basically laid the groundwork for someone like Trump to abuse the mass surveillance state Bush built and Obama expanded.

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Vedltreply
lemmy.world

Obviously I can't know the intention behind the tweet, but I took it more as an attack on his fragile ego than a flex. Here's hoping anyway.

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Yes this is obviously the point. We don't have to be in favor of Obama deportations to acknowledge that they weren't illegal and possibly not human rights abuses

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all im getting from this is that democrats are more efficient and discreet fascists than republicans

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You can also get that protest and resistance works. They are seeing less success in deportations because of the work of americans making it much harder.

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lemmy.world

While deportations are awful under all circumstances, I'd say it's frankly incomparable. The deportees to El Salvador were legal asylum residents. The Government's actions undermined the equal protection of law to an unforgivable extent.

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what I'm getting from this is that a forgivable extent exists to deport. which is what carotte critiques

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Oh well he did it efficiently, that makes it so much better. You would think the Democrats would be able to put 1% as much effort into winning as they do violating human rights and engaging in war crimes but apparently not.

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The same happened in Germany. Right wing radicals and extremists wanted more deportation of migrants and liberals pointed out how the former government (greens, socdems and neoliberals) did a "good job" and deported way more people than the conservative government before them.

That’s not a flex, that is sad, that a supposedly more progressive government goes against minorities even harder than the conservatives

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Makes sense, the more immigration is seen to be a problem the better republicans do on voting day.

They want to talk about how high immigration is but so little to tackle it, Dems are incentivised to do the opposite.

Super apparent in the UK where the conservatives government decided to spend enormous sums sending a handful of asylum seekers to Rwanda rather than actually paying people to process their claims.

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