The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
who messes with my post? someone put a link to ycombinator in it. Atleast ask me.
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This is the childish actions of a whiny technofascists that's gotten himself banned for cause. Note the open bigotry right in the README. For some odd reason he feels the need to make an anti-DEI statement. Treat it like the far-right dog whistle it is.
Yuuuup. Even the X developers all moved on to Wayland work.
"Together we'll make X great again!" together with a Telegramm channel link
I pass.
The readme doesn't inspire confidence.
Yeah that's a bunch of red flags right off the bat.
Isn't X effectively dead anyway, and most people moving to Wayland?
Yeah, XWayland will be around for quite some time but X11 / Xorg Server as stand-alone display server is pretty much dead.
DEI is a discriminatory policy for a repo? Granted I'm no programmer, but that feels like a made up "problem" to be solving for something like X.org. The README looks like the ravings of a spurned ex employee or someone that may need some professional help.
how would dei work with volunteer projects like online foss projects anyway?
Readme literally was changed to have the phrase "make x great again". I wonder what got this person to fork it.
Ok. This is interesting, if a bit conspiracy-theory-ish:
I wonder what the story behind this is. Why would anyone want to hinder progress on X11?
Nobody wants to "hinder progress" on x11, there's just not much point focusing resources on a deprecated project...
I mean, read the github README. The author is claiming that there are people trying to sabotage progress on X11.
If there are folks actively working on a fork, then it's not deprecated, is it?
I read it, it didn't feel very convincing to me. I wish them luck with the project for sure, more options are always better, but I don't think companies not spending money on it is sabotage, and I don't really trust their thing about persecution given the weird anti-DEI rant. This has the smell of https://xkcd.com/1357/ all over it.
Oof. I didn't get that far. They really mention DEI in the project README? That's going to be a hard no from me. Even if I did agree with them, it has no place in the repo.
Big oof. I should have finished reading.
I think it's more about the politics, not X11 itself. Right wing people are getting harassed as always.
They wouldn't get harassed if they minded their own business and stopped harassing others.
Well I'm sure there are a lot of right wing movements and some of them are aggressive but I personally only mind people who don't respect others and I haven't found a difference between left wing and right wing people in terms of that. However left leaning ones do it in disguise and lie about themselves so my choice was obvious. I value honesty too after all.
Being left or right doesn't make you good or bad. There are plenty of reasonable right-wing groups. However few to none of them identify as right wing. The Democrats in the United States for instance. A staunchly, solidly right-wing group. That most people somehow mistakenly think are left wing.
No, the people desperate to identify themselves with vagaries such as left or right. Almost without exception are some of the worst most horrible people you'll ever meet. Only trying to deny the failures of their ideas, or deflect from the horrible things they want to do to others. Leninists and fascists are both Prime examples of this.
Anyone who talks or acts like DEI is a problem is a clown who deserves to be ridiculed. Its possible to have substantive nuanced criticism of DEI. Left or right. But DEI isn't the problem. The people whining about it typically are.
Wait, what? How did politics come into this? Did they talk about DEI in the README? I didn't read the whole thing.
That would be disappointing.
It's in the readme. Several comments above this and around this all mention it. You can search for it and you will find it.
Dei really shouldn't be considered politics of course. It should just be a part of being a decent person. But those who persecute others or don't care about the persecution of others at least. Always have to put on a show to make everything about them. How acknowledging traditionally excluded people is somehow an attack or imposition on them
I agree. Everyone else here "supports" software freedom yet doesn't like right wing people forking stuff. The double standards are so obvious it's nothing short of funny.
Probably because they do it for bs reasons.
Nobody's trying to stop them, we can make fun of them however.
Well I think making fun of someone is bad in general so yea not an excuse. You guys won't even let us make fun of you because you're everywhere and will get us banned on literally all the internet. Pretty fascist if you ask me.
Hey those aggressive leftists do religious bigotry as well btw.