Switzerland plans surveillance worse than US - Tuta
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They’ve always taken the concept of privacy to such an extreme. What is happening there that they’ve started pushing so hard in the opposite direction?
This is just a proposal and unlikely to go anywhere.
I bet proton will move out of Switzerland if this becomes a law.
They have said they will move when it does.
How?
Isn't that where the humans behind the scenes live?
Protons CEO has said they will leave Switzerland if the law goes through.
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/we-would-be-less-confidential-than-google-proton-threatens-to-quit-switzerland-over-new-surveillance-law
I think we need better ways to self host email
Well, there goes ProtonMail. Let's hope it is not enacted. I'll wait for other neutral reports since Tuta is a major competitor. Should be a quick search.
Proton has made some statements about exiting Switzerland if these proposals become law. But who knows how long that would take and if any damage is done in the meantime.
Plus there’s other junk going on lately with Proton as a company…
What kinda junk?
Basically one of the founders, Andy, posted on twitter some praise of Donald Trump and the US Republicans party. I didn’t love but it wasn’t so exactly horrible IMO. But as people replied, Andy started answering via Proton’s official twitter account. And these were much worse.
Unfortunately, the original posts are now deleted. Even the discussions that I participated in here on Lemmy are now deleted. So it’s definitely hard to share much info. Here’s a copy/pasta of something from my inbox:
Here’s Proton’s official response on Reddit, from 6 months ago. If you care to dig up more info, this should be a good starting point. Maybe the original posts are available on archive.org?
For my purposes, the event prompted me to learn a tad more about Proton’s finances. I discovered that the company donates to political parties in the US and elsewhere. IMO, this kind of thing gives people a good reason to care about this kind of “internet drama” because Proton uses its revenue to influence politics. I don’t know any details of how they do so, but this event made me question if I should continue using their services.
Ah ok yes, I was aware of a lot of that, I though there was something new that happened
Swiss law takes years — a change this big will probably go to referendum which adds a couple extra years as well. Expect this in the news for a while before anything happens.
Tuta is hardly a competitor. They don't even do PGP encrypted email.
It is almost like we should not rely on a single country
Decentralisation 🤝